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An informed, realistic, thoughtful, and logical reply? What is this sorcery!? ;)

You're right. Super-long term, physical 100% trumps digital. :up:
But then why do people buy MP3s? eBooks? Ultraviolet Digital Copies? Virtual Console SNES games instead of cartridges?

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MP3s I get DRM-free, eBook I know nothing about, Ultraviolet Digital because it's cheap (well conversions are $1) and can be accessed from anywhere on multiple devices (laptops, tablets, consoles, rokus, etc; ), Virtual Console SNES games because A Link to the Past is $200+ on cartridge.

Basically:
eBooks -> Didn't know people still read.
MP3 -> No restrictions, can be used on multiple devices
Ultraviolet -> Cheap, can be used on multiple devices
Virtual Console -> Cheaper

But again, when it all comes down to it I have no issues with digital game distribution. What Microsoft is doing with physical media is silly though.

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Every form of digital media you just listed is different from Xbone games in one very important way: They're all cheap. I mean, sure, some people might buy a $20 ebook, which is just stupid, but for the most part, we're talking $1-$10, and a smaller selection that are $10-$20. But when I can get whole albums on Amazon MP3 for $3, or Ultraviolet copies come free with Blu-ray purchases, that stuff is a no-brainer, because even if I lose access, I hardly spent much money on it at all. $60 games are too much.

Also, let's say you have a Kindle, you buy a bunch of ebooks, and Amazon goes tits up. You can still read all your ebooks on your Kindle until it dies. You can also pull those ebooks off of the Kindle, strip the DRM, and then they're yours forever. I doubt that will be the case for Xbone games.

My point is, the level of convenience MS is offering isn't being offset by the downsides of the system they're putting in place, given the prices of console games. If Microsoft wants to make an Ouya to run Android games that cost $5 a pop, then this model looks attractive. But an Xbox? No. There are simply too many ways that the end user gets screwed.

Also, in regards to account hacking, there is no way MS makes two-factor authentication a requirement. They already have to have instructional videos on how to lend games. They're not going to make things even more difficult at this point.

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Oh man I would laugh my ass off if they went multi-factor. I just picture Smart Glass being mandatory with built-in RSA tokens.

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it has been a while :)


the bluray player i have "upconverts" the dvds I put in, so maybe that is why i don't tell much difference. hell if i know

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So it looks like Forza and Dead Rising are going to be the only exclusives at launch. That's weak sauce. Are people really gonna pluck down $500 bucks to play just two exclusive games this year? Otherwise, why buy the console now when you can play the same multi-platform titles on your 360?

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Dead Rising 3 designed to appeal to Call of Duty fans

In a GameSpot report, Capcom demonstrated exactly how terminally bloody stupid the mainstream game industry truly is, confessing that Dead Rising 3 is planning to appeal to Call of Duty fans. Because of course, following the leader is exactly how you lead!

In a bid to, yes, "appeal to a wider audience," Dead Rising 3 has been given a brown color scheme, a serious tone, and a "realistic" approach. As if going down a checklist of bullshit PR phrases, Capcom also promises the violence will be "more visceral."

It would appear the publisher learned nothing from Resident Evil 6, a game that also ignored everything its series was founded on in a desperate, blind, pathetic attempt to grasp for an audience that was too busy playing Call of Duty to notice a poor attempting at aping Call of Duty. This is a lesson major publishers seem to refuse to accept, as they perpetuate the same cycle of failure they're been spinning on for the past few years.

As I'm always frigging saying, companies will shoot themselves in the foot if they keep insanely believing they can photocopy Call of Duty's success by scraping pitifully in its shadow. They need to start leading their own markets, rather than grab slices of a market already conquered.

But no, that requires too much thought. Better to just smash existing games with their own unique appeal, and reconstruct them into some bastard mutant that is everything and nothing at once.

http://www.destructoid.com/dead-risi...s-256136.phtml

MS is making it easier and easier for me to skip XBONE. Someone mentioned an Amusement park as a setting. That would've been awesome to play :(

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Dead Rising 3 like Call of Duty? No thanks!

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After hearing that the Xbox One will only work in certain countries I'm seriously wondering just what they are thinking. This is not a blast, not a flame. I am seriously wondering what the point of it all is. I was a fan of Microsoft for years, I had an Xbox and 360, I'm just disappointed in what they are now doing. It doesn't make a bit of sense to me at all. Surely they knew the backlash all of this would cause, the confusion that it would all create. Is it just a colossal failure in marketing and development or are there other possible reasons for what they are doing? It surely isn't going to catch on, so I just don't see the point.

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I do video QC for a living. On a properly calibrated setup, and good source materials, you can tell the difference between HD and SD immediately.

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Most "new" eBooks from recognized authors are never $10 anymore (thank Apple for that), and hover from $12 to $16, and some are as high as $18. They're still top-sellers. Yes, cheaper than AAA console games, but expensive for what equates to a glorified PDF file. Some hardcovers are less expensive at retail.

Brand new prices for these things are always higher. Prices may drop in the first week, but not always. But, even still, I agree. Sales happen and make these things more disposable in the mind's eye. But there are members here who have spent upwards of $500 on Ultraviolet copies. That's more than most people spend on games. Sure the individual purchase prices are cheap, but the overall "investment" is debatable and could be equal.

If every single "big" (ie: 5GB or more data) game is $60, then yes. You're right. But pricing is still in the air. Launch day, I'm sure they will be $60. But as the new market matures? I don't see that price holding for long. I don't know if MS or publishers determine pricing (on any system), but it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. That's all I'm saying. I think $60 game prices are too high for 99% of what's out there. Remember, piracy is rampant on the 360 (yet apparently non-existent on the PS3. I don't know why.), so if they can buckle down on that with a few measures (NOT 24-hour heartbeats, and NOT some other things, but with codes or whatever), then they can have a meaningful discussion about pricing plans for the future.

Stripping DRM from your eBooks. Hmm. Kind of an edge-case scenario, but so were my scenarios. :) Fair enough, but you're talking about 0.001% of Kindle owners who would care enough.
Of course. Maybe they'll let you "back up" the game onto a flash drive or an external HDD, but it's doubtful.

I agree, but that doesn't mean they have absolutely no plans to address those concerns about users getting screwed. It's interesting that people drooled over the idea of a Steam Box, though, as it would essentially be the same thing, no? Steam has a two-week limit for offline mode apparently (http://steamcommunity.com/discussion...7979095845728/)

Two-factor does not have to be difficult. When I set it up with Facebook, it just sends me an email/text anytime I log in from an unknown browser, saying, "Hello. Was this you? If so, please ignore. If not, you gon be hax0red, son!". Xbox could do the same for people who log into you Live account from anywhere but the console.

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That's a flat slap in the face of gamers and downright arrogant. Might as well and came out and said, "listen you dumb ass, cheap gamer...go out and get a job to buy some decent internet so you can play our system. If not...stop crying, suck it up and just be thankful we're going to continue to support the 360 and your sorry ass".

You really have to start wondering about their attitude to gamers out there...it's starting to sound like..."They think we need them and not the other way around...they need us". Sort of like the freaking government right now.

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And then there is this...

http://winsupersite.com/site-files/w...ation-hero.jpg

http://winsupersite.com/xbox/xbox-on...medium=twitter

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I think MS should hire SomethingMore as their spokesperson as he seems to care more about the outcome of the Xbone and is more knowledgeable than their PR guys have shown recently.

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I absolutely, 100%, do not care in the slightest about the outcome of the console. I'm just trying to debate *drumroll* The Future of Gaming (tm)(r)(c)

But yes... they should hire my lazy ass.

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Yeah that system wont be abused :lol: . I imagine A douche that loses a match to a girl gamer gathering his buddies and getting her in the red.

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You're hired!

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I don't think two-factor would be that hard, lots of PC games have started to use it and it hasn't been too complicated.

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I think... think... it's because of the ability to roll out XBL in different nations. It's the same reason Spotify still isn't in Canada (hosers), and why iTunes took years to roll out to various countries. Just takes time.

:lol:

Yes, it'll be abused, but no more than the current system. At least your reputation increases as you continue to play without getting reports about you.

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Are we really attacking others now because they're trying to take a rational/optimistic look at the potential positives from this console? Come on, people.

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No kidding. If you don't like it just don't buy it. That's the strongest word to send. All this fussing already and it isn't even out yet.
I've already said the XO isn't for me and I won't buy one till they shut the 360 down. Way to many games in the backlog not to mention a dozen or so I want to play downloaded off arcade. Even then I'm not sure but at least the details on how this is all going to shape up will be out. Just don't pre-order anything if your unsure, nobody is forcing you.

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I didn't see any excessive personal attacks addressed to anyone, but :shrug: it's almost to be expected in any sort of format/gaming war. Personally, I'm just trying to keep an actual discussion going instead of everyone just patting each other on the back for agreeing that Microsoft is indeed evil and wants our first born children. I don't care how this turns out for MS or Sony, but I enjoy discussing it with y'all.

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Looking at tha list of games I sure see a lot of "No" under Kinect Supported....so why is that must be included in every system again?

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Yeah well, that sounds exactly like something M$ would pay you to say!!1

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They're saving all the really good stuff until year 5. You just wait and be patient. Things like this take time.