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MoviePage 05-21-13 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chess (Post 11701404)
Any word on Live Arcade purchases? Every time I almost bought a 360, it was for Live Arcade...hoping that stuff carries over.

One of the articles linked earlier mentioned that no content from the 360 will be compatible with the One.

Hailey G 05-21-13 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kedrix (Post 11701412)
My old games are not compatible (not even Xbox Live Arcade) and most of the games I buy are clearanced which I don't know if some of us have figured this out, but clearance sales will be much harder to come by if they don't have to compete with used games anymore. I

Might affect it to some degree, but retailers that don't specialize in video games will always need to get rid of old stock to make room for new stock. They only have so much room.

Supermallet 05-21-13 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chess (Post 11701404)
It sounds like it's only for installs of the games. I assume they'll still play off of a disk.

Any word on Live Arcade purchases? Every time I almost bought a 360, it was for Live Arcade...hoping that stuff carries over.

I thought they said in the presentation that no games will carry over from the 360, period.

chuckd21 05-21-13 04:17 PM

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Now there are no fees associated with used games, and the original Wired story is said to be completely incorrect.

Deftones 05-21-13 04:17 PM

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FAQ on MS website: http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

According to this, it won't use more power than the 360.

chuckd21 05-21-13 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11701457)
I thought they said in the presentation that no games will carry over from the 360, period.

Correct. If its a game programmed to work on the 360 it will not work on the Xbox One.

Digital content like movies and TV shows will carry over.

MoviePage 05-21-13 04:19 PM

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Achievements will carry over, as if there was any real doubt. And:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18oe.../ku-xlarge.jpg

Toddarino 05-21-13 04:23 PM

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Not that I'm surprised, but this reveal didn't sway my decision. There's just nothing that makes me want to upgrade. Maybe Mass Effect 4 or Alan Wake 2. It's going to need to have some impressive games to make me forget about all the negatives.
I'm just not impressed by this generation of consoles thus far.

Michael Corvin 05-21-13 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 11701276)
Microsoft is not dumb.

A lot of us have multiple Xboxes at home, and yeah we play the same game in two different consoles at different times.

That shouldn't change with Xbox One.

How? Not sure, maybe same way it's now, without inserting the disc. But you have to login into Xbox live with your account of course.


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD (Post 11701292)
No 360 BC? No XBL BC? Fee for used games?

Woah. This is not good. If I wasn't out before, I am so out now.

:rolleyes: I'm pretty sure everyone here knew you were never 'in' to begin with.


Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 11701402)
I don't buy used games either, but I sell my games back. If I'm going to take a hit on selling a $60 game back, more than with this current generation, it definitely affects me as a consumer.

:up: This "small" fee is bad news for consumers all around. It's not just about buying used games, that's only half of the coin. Not being able to resell shitty games (at a decent amount) is crap and it will affect non-AAA title sales. Who's going to take a $60 chance on an unproven game if that safety net is removed?


Originally Posted by chess (Post 11701404)
Any word on Live Arcade purchases? Every time I almost bought a 360, it was for Live Arcade...hoping that stuff carries over.

None of it carries over. I know it sounds like entitlement to want that stuff to carry over but whatever. I wish the publishers the best of luck convincing people to buy digital content on these new consoles.


Originally Posted by DynamicKnight (Post 11701439)
Wow, that design is terrible. It looks like two different cable boxes that were cut in half and the halves were put together. And it looks they seem to be going with a Rambo-like naming system for their systems now.

Looks like a TiVo:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76...in/tivos3l.jpg

DynamicKnight 05-21-13 04:25 PM

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Hah! I was wondering why it looked so familiar.

Michael Corvin 05-21-13 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Music (Post 11701302)
It's not wireless, there is a port on the back of the ONE just for the Kinect.

Damn. I guess the question now is if Kinect is required to be hooked up to run. Or if you can plug it in and just leave it on the audio rack for voice functions and ignore the camera shit.

JTH182 05-21-13 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxflier (Post 11701281)
Hopefully that would circumvent paying again, but from the wording it doesn't sound like it.

"to install the same disc onto another user's drive, a fee must be paid.""


The ol' reacharound

Decker 05-21-13 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11701468)

Makes sense, since they sort of presented it as one.

Spiderbite 05-21-13 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11701461)
Correct. If its a game programmed to work on the 360 it will not work on the Xbox One.

Digital content like movies and TV shows will carry over.

Fuck. They need to figure out something for Rock Band. I have too much money sunk into that game. Luckily, other than all the pinball games, I don't have a ton of stuff on Live that I would mind giving up...but I am still not sold on this system yet. I will likely wait at least a year to see if I would be better served with the Xbox or the PS.

MoviePage 05-21-13 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11701468)
None of it carries over. I know it sounds like entitlement to want that stuff to carry over but whatever. I wish the publishers the best of luck convincing people to buy digital content on these new consoles.

People spend outrageous amounts of money on frequently-overpriced digital content already, seemingly without any forethought or common sense in many cases. I don't think that will change at all.

If nothing else, I'm hoping the lack of backwards compatibility means some awesome sales on DLC and arcade games on the 360's marketplace in the next year. :dance:

Decker 05-21-13 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11701468)


:up: This "small" fee is bad news for consumers all around. It's not just about buying used games, that's only half of the coin. Not being able to resell shitty games (at a decent amount) is crap and it will affect non-AAA title sales. Who's going to take a $60 chance on an unproven game if that safety net is removed?

Especially since you can't rent or borrow a friend's game to try it out.

chuckd21 05-21-13 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd (Post 11701475)
Fuck. They need to figure out something for Rock Band. I have too much money sunk into that game. Luckily, other than all the pinball games, I don't have a ton of stuff on Live that I would mind giving up...but I am still not sold on this system yet. I will likely wait at least a year to see if I would be better served with the Xbox or the PS.

Congrats! Your 360 just became a dedicated Rock Band machine!

chuckd21 05-21-13 04:36 PM

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Microsoft attempts to clear up the fee/no fee thing.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-a-fee-to-play

Drexl 05-21-13 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nausicaa (Post 11701420)
Only reason I'm following the console news is to see how powerful they will be, and what hideous DRM they have planned - to see where PC games will then be headed.

I think this console generation is critical in terms of defining the future of gaming. It's a totally different world than when the XBox 360 and PS3 launched. PCs are more competitive as gaming platforms, indie development has taken off, broadband is everywhere. I'm not positive about it.

Although I've pretty much converted to PC gaming as well, it really has led the way when it comes to DRM. You haven't been able to buy used PC games for several years, and some games have had schemes like limited activations and having to be constantly connected.

I thought it was funny to read comments on the Steam forum a while back when the rumor about no used games on the PS4 came out. Most of the comments were that it was a terrible idea, it would certainly fail, etc. - oh, you mean just like Steam?

I'm not too positive about the future of gaming either, with all this mobile and casual focus, free-to-play, microtransactions, etc.

Giantrobo 05-21-13 04:44 PM

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Sooo, forgive me if I missed it but will the current XBOX's and LIVE still work when this X1 comes out?

chuckd21 05-21-13 04:47 PM

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Additionally, Engadget reports the machine will come with a 500GB hard drive that is non-replaceable, but the USB 3.0 slots can be used for external storage.

Music 05-21-13 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11701497)
Additionally, Engadget reports the machine will come with a 500GB hard drive that is non-replaceable, but the USB 3.0 slots can be used for external storage.

:banana:

Deftones 05-21-13 04:51 PM

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This is what was stupid of Microsoft. Come out and give us clear details of the used game situation so there isn't all this speculation and misinformation. I don't see how any pr person or firm would advise them to do this.

Deftones 05-21-13 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11701497)
Additionally, Engadget reports the machine will come with a 500GB hard drive that is non-replaceable, but the USB 3.0 slots can be used for external storage.

As I speculated earlier. Seemed too obvious not to allow a feature like this.

Drexl 05-21-13 04:52 PM

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External storage for WHAT, though? Hopefully it will be for more than movies and music.

Giantrobo, the original Xbox had the Live plug pulled in 2010, so they should continue to support the 360 for a while. BTW, I prefer XO as the abbreviation - it's less likely to be confused with the original Xbox. XOXO, XO! ;)


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