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Old 09-12-13, 12:48 PM
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd

The Psychology of a Fanboy

http://lifehacker.com/the-psychology...sam-1300451596

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HAHA! That's funny stuff! It applies to all you crazy folks, except me! LOLZ! Suckers!
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You only posted that in one of the threads? FANBOY!
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There's a bit of inflammatory journalism there, so I wouldn't want to spread it.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd

Originally Posted by chess
You should put the Kinect camera in your equipment closet pointed at a picture of you giving it the finger.

Surely somebody will make a longer cord, but almost certainly not at launch. Why does everything have to have new and proprietary ports?
A little bit harder to hack / use improperly?
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Old 09-12-13, 03:58 PM
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Why does everything have to have new and proprietary ports?
I went to swap out my Wii for the WiiU on the main tv today and figured instead of moving/getting behind the entertainment center I'd just plug in the sensor cable and power cable from the Wii. Nope. Power cable is the same shape but angled the opposite way making it impossible to plug into the WiiU. So stupid.
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Old 09-12-13, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I went to swap out my Wii for the WiiU on the main tv today and figured instead of moving/getting behind the entertainment center I'd just plug in the sensor cable and power cable from the Wii. Nope. Power cable is the same shape but angled the opposite way making it impossible to plug into the WiiU. So stupid.
I don't think it's done that way to prevent compatibility, but because the power bricks are different and they don't want people bricking their system by using the wrong plug.
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Old 09-12-13, 04:35 PM
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I don't think it's done that way to prevent compatibility, but because the power bricks are different and they don't want people bricking their system by using the wrong plug.
Yep, the Wii Power Adapter outputs 12V 3.7A DC, while the WiiU Power Adapter outputs 15V 5A.

If they had left the plugs the same and you plugged the Wii power adapter into a WiiU, the WiiU wouldn't be getting enough power, possibly damaging it, while if you did the reverse, the WiiU power supply would fry the Wii.
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I always liked that the fat PS3 used the same power cable as a PC.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I went to swap out my Wii for the WiiU on the main tv today and figured instead of moving/getting behind the entertainment center I'd just plug in the sensor cable and power cable from the Wii. Nope. Power cable is the same shape but angled the opposite way making it impossible to plug into the WiiU. So stupid.
It's to protect people from assuming a different power cable can be used..
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd

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I always liked that the fat PS3 used the same power cable as a PC.


And the PS1, PS2, PS3 Slims and PS4 all use the same cord. I must have a dozen of these from various tape/CD/DVD components:



The fat PS3 was an oddball, but it was OK for the reason noted above. The only power brick on any Playstation was the 3rd iteration of the PS2, which was impossibly small.
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Old 09-12-13, 07:28 PM
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Yep, I have had so many of those power cords over the past 30+ years... I think I have only seen 1 slight variation of this with the connector that plugs into the device, one side is a different shape.
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Old 09-12-13, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
Yep, the Wii Power Adapter outputs 12V 3.7A DC, while the WiiU Power Adapter outputs 15V 5A.

If they had left the plugs the same and you plugged the Wii power adapter into a WiiU, the WiiU wouldn't be getting enough power, possibly damaging it, while if you did the reverse, the WiiU power supply would fry the Wii.
Understood, but power cables should be standardized.
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The cord from the outlet to the power supply should be standard.

If it has a power brick, then it shouldn't be standard as there isn't a standard power brick.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
I see Major Nelson is rolling around to Microsoft stores showing off the Xbox One. There is one coming to Scottsdale. I thought it could be fun to go check it out. I looked at the date and it is December 3rd.

I'll have already been playing mine for 2 weeks by then.
I could go down to my "local" store on the 19th, but that is also our 15th year wedding anniversary, so... naaahhhh... I'll wait.

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I could down to my "local" store on the 19th, but that is also our 15th year wedding anniversary, so... naaahhhh... I'll wait.
You could the whole down?!
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Yes... Yes I could....
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Chess already posted this in the PS4 thread, but I want to post it here as well:
http://www.edge-online.com/news/powe...e-performance/

This part of course sounds really bad:
a platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but it’ll run at “20-something” FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One. “Xbox One is weaker and it’s a pain to use its ESRAM,” concluded one developer.

It's not as bad as it sounds however, as they claim (and I've heard this claim from developers I know before this article was posted) that the graphics driver for the Xbox One is in a much more premature state compared to the PS4's graphics driver. I've heard about it in some detail, and to say it's even in beta state would be pushing it right now.
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The graphics driver being unfinshed 2 months before launch doesn't seem like a silver lining to me, particularly with launch titles "going gold" in the coming weeks.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd

Originally Posted by flashburn
Chess already posted this in the PS4 thread, but I want to post it here as well:
http://www.edge-online.com/news/powe...e-performance/

This part of course sounds really bad:
a platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but it’ll run at “20-something” FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One. “Xbox One is weaker and it’s a pain to use its ESRAM,” concluded one developer.

It's not as bad as it sounds however, as they claim (and I've heard this claim from developers I know before this article was posted) that the graphics driver for the Xbox One is in a much more premature state compared to the PS4's graphics driver. I've heard about it in some detail, and to say it's even in beta state would be pushing it right now.
I read the same nonsense last gen about how much more powerful the PS3 was over the 360 - and it didn't amount to anything.

The hardware isn't different enough to make much of a difference. It's all about the software and API.
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I read the same nonsense last gen about how much more powerful the PS3 was over the 360 - and it didn't amount to anything.

The hardware isn't different enough to make much of a difference. It's all about the software and API.
I thought the problem with the PS3 was that it was harder/more complicated to program for. This time around, it sounds like the Xbox One is the one harder to program for, since the ESRAM adds an extra level of complexity. For the Xbox One, programmers have to figure out what gets stored in the small but fast ESRAM, and what gets stored in the larger but slower DDR3 RAM, while for the PS4, everything just gets stored in the fast GDDR5.
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I call bullshit.
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Microsoft does a lot of boneheaded shit, but I seriously doubt that three months after the public reveal of the PS4 they'd present a console that's not at least on par with the specs Sony presented. That would be asinine. Are there differences between the two? Of course. One has advantages over the other and vice versa. Will every game be amazing on PS4 and subpar on Xbox One? Of course not.
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I guess console graphics drivers are different then PC graphics drivers... weird...
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yeah, this all reeks of Sony fanboy crap. basically a smear campaign. no doubt there will be differences in programming the game, but one won't be significantly better than the other.
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