Xbox One Pre-Release Thread: Upscaled to 1080p! (11/22/2013)
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
My memory isn't THAT great, so that specific point may be... off. I'll find it. I swear I will!
I do know that there are definitely components in a PC where MS has their own drivers and the manufacture also obviously provides different drivers.
In those cases, the MS drivers are usually not as good... but I'm sure they said otherwise with Signature PCs. Still searching...
I do know that there are definitely components in a PC where MS has their own drivers and the manufacture also obviously provides different drivers.
In those cases, the MS drivers are usually not as good... but I'm sure they said otherwise with Signature PCs. Still searching...
#7277
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
I like Arstechnica, but that article is pretty bad and doesn't provide much of a rebuttal or any worthwhile information at all. Inflammatory journalism.
That said, I can also believe that there might be that 50% gap right now in performance if the driver stuff is true. I trust flashburn enough to take his word for it on this matter. That's not to say I also don't expect Microsoft to improve that considerably, maybe not well enough for launch titles, but down the road I imagine the difference would be fairly negligible to all except 1st party games.
And yeah, Signature PC's didn't mean jack. I thought it was pretty much just no manufacturer bloatware.
That said, I can also believe that there might be that 50% gap right now in performance if the driver stuff is true. I trust flashburn enough to take his word for it on this matter. That's not to say I also don't expect Microsoft to improve that considerably, maybe not well enough for launch titles, but down the road I imagine the difference would be fairly negligible to all except 1st party games.
And yeah, Signature PC's didn't mean jack. I thought it was pretty much just no manufacturer bloatware.
#7278
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
FWIW, I recall reading somewhere that John Carmack said both systems are nearly identical. I'd believe comments from a guy like him far more than "unnamed sources."
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
My memory isn't THAT great, so that specific point may be... off. I'll find it. I swear I will!
I do know that there are definitely components in a PC where MS has their own drivers and the manufacture also obviously provides different drivers. In those cases, the MS drivers are usually not as good... but I'm sure they said otherwise with Signature PCs. Still searching...
I do know that there are definitely components in a PC where MS has their own drivers and the manufacture also obviously provides different drivers. In those cases, the MS drivers are usually not as good... but I'm sure they said otherwise with Signature PCs. Still searching...
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Article makes claim that Sony/PS4 is superior = gospel and should be believed as absolute fact.
Article makes claim that MS/XB1 is superior or that Sony/PS4 has some shortcoming = obviously biased MS fanboy article that should be dismissed.
Haven't you been following along?
Article makes claim that MS/XB1 is superior or that Sony/PS4 has some shortcoming = obviously biased MS fanboy article that should be dismissed.
Haven't you been following along?
#7282
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
#7283
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Also, don't forget, if anyone at Microsoft says anything, they're lying company line toting jerks. But if a Sony guy says something on Twitter and includes a smiley face you can take that to the bank!
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
I'd like to see ANY game running on either console at this point. Hell, have we seen so much as a screenshot of next gen Madden?
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Article makes claim that Sony/PS4 is superior = gospel and should be believed as absolute fact.
Article makes claim that MS/XB1 is superior or that Sony/PS4 has some shortcoming = obviously biased MS fanboy article that should be dismissed.
Haven't you been following along?
Article makes claim that MS/XB1 is superior or that Sony/PS4 has some shortcoming = obviously biased MS fanboy article that should be dismissed.
Haven't you been following along?
#7287
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Fortunately, we'll get the comparisons when both systems are out. Madden/BF4/COD:Ghosts/AC4 will all have side by sides. Then we can see what is what. Until then, speculating on anything, using stupid "anonymous sources" is fucking absurd.
#7288
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
I can't really tell what they're doing either, unless it just isn't much of an upgrade over the current gen? Cock and balls.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Spoiler:
Point is, with what MS did with Signature PCs, they're doing with all of their services, and optimizing that philosophy for Xbox One. Vista was a disaster in terms of performance, and Win 7 and Win 8 have both -reduced- the minimum hardware requirements, based purely on the core software.
That doesn't mean I think Xbox One will perform 50% better than the PS4. That's dumb. But Sony's "optimization" of Android (as one example) doesn't exactly give me warm and fuzzies about actual performance.
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
FWIW, I recall reading somewhere that John Carmack said both systems are nearly identical. I'd believe comments from a guy like him far more than "unnamed sources."
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
My memory isn't THAT great, so that specific point may be... off. I'll find it. I swear I will!
I do know that there are definitely components in a PC where MS has their own drivers and the manufacture also obviously provides different drivers.
In those cases, the MS drivers are usually not as good... but I'm sure they said otherwise with Signature PCs. Still searching...
I do know that there are definitely components in a PC where MS has their own drivers and the manufacture also obviously provides different drivers.
In those cases, the MS drivers are usually not as good... but I'm sure they said otherwise with Signature PCs. Still searching...
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
That said, I can also believe that there might be that 50% gap right now in performance if the driver stuff is true. I trust flashburn enough to take his word for it on this matter. That's not to say I also don't expect Microsoft to improve that considerably, maybe not well enough for launch titles, but down the road I imagine the difference would be fairly negligible to all except 1st party games.
I'd rather people trusted me less (if that's possible!), else I might get into trouble. It's more fun for me this way anyway.
#7299
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
Hell, I think they'll work out the majority of the issues before launch even, I was just trying to shed some light about WHY they might be seeing such a vast difference in performance.
I'd rather people trusted me less (if that's possible!), else I might get into trouble. It's more fun for me this way anyway.
I'd rather people trusted me less (if that's possible!), else I might get into trouble. It's more fun for me this way anyway.
#7300
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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
I'm curious as to implementing and upgrading the drivers later on. Since the OS is a kernel version of WIN 8 are these drivers Direct X related? I would think with a mild version of WIN 8 installed as the OS that MS would have some advantage in the driver department...?