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Music 09-11-13 01:54 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
There are still pre-order bonus item for digital purchases too.

Canis Firebrand 09-11-13 01:57 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11830415)
They should have planned for two ways of ownership from the beginning. Forcing all digital on people was boneheaded.

My concern with buying digital is the pre-order bonus stuff, which I have a feeling will remain with retailers to keep them happy.

Hopefully those retailers will allow for digital purchases through their respective websites and give you a code to download the game and any pre-order bonuses that store has.

Dan 09-11-13 02:00 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
Yeah, there's still lots of options for offering exclusives with certain retailers, even with digital downloads. It's all a matter of how it gets implemented.

Michael Corvin 09-11-13 02:02 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by Canis Firebrand (Post 11830374)
Agree... I can simply push a button and buy then download a game at 12:01am on release day and I don't have to deal with standing in line or going to a store? Sold.

psst... linky.


Originally Posted by Canis Firebrand (Post 11830374)
The only physical discs I may end up with will be games that are on sale cheaper as a disc than their digital counterpart. If MS can come out with some better sales on digital games occasionally, I can see myself buying less physical games.

Unless you buy every game on release day, I'm willing to bet 99% of the time a disc will see a sale before the digital counterpart. Hell, even pre-orders are likely to be a better deal with incentives or $10+ credits somewhere.

fumanstan 09-11-13 02:05 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11830433)
psst... linky.

And then wait until some random time in the day for the game to be delivered before you can play opposed to being instantly playable (assuming there's a pre-load)

xmiyux 09-11-13 02:06 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
Yeah, they always deliver in the evening. Which if I work is fine. But if I am off then I want the release at 10am when stores open.

I have most of next week off so will be buying GTAV in store - otherwise I would miss out on an entire day of playing it since Amazon would drop it off at like 6-7.

Canis Firebrand 09-11-13 02:07 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11830433)
psst... linky.

Ummm... I know I can buy a game from Amazon without the need to leave the house. However, I'd still have to wait for the game to be delivered. I was talking about the ability to have it download immediately after finishing the digital purchase so that I can play.


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11830433)
Unless you buy every game on release day, I'm willing to bet 99% of the time a disc will see a sale before the digital counterpart. Hell, even pre-orders are likely to be a better deal with incentives or $10+ credits somewhere.

I should have clarified better. For those games that I buy on release day, since the digital counterpart will be the same price, I'll buy the digital version. For games I wait on, price will dictate the format. Though my preferred format will be digital of course. However... if, say 3 months after release, a game is priced $29.99 for physical copy and still $59.99 for digital, it shouldn't be any surprise that the physical copy would get the purchase.

Michael Corvin 09-11-13 02:09 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
How many of you really have Tuesday's off work to play at 10am? :lol:

Now Sunday releases, digital would make more sense.

Dan 09-11-13 02:11 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11830433)
psst... linky.

Will Amazon deliver it at 12:01am on release day now? I'm not sure I want someone from the postal service, or even worse... an Amazon rep... knocking on my door at that time of night. ;)


Unless you buy every game on release day, I'm willing to bet 99% of the time a disc will see a sale before the digital counterpart. Hell, even pre-orders are likely to be a better deal with incentives or $10+ credits somewhere.
Digital pre-orders from any retailer can have similar credits or incentives, as long as the platform is built for that.

Canis Firebrand 09-11-13 02:12 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11830449)
How many of you really have Tuesday's off work to play at 10am? :lol:

For me, that's not the issue. I want to be able to play the game when I want. I work every Tuesday that isn't a holiday and get home around 5:30pm. For me, my Amazon deliveries don't arrive until around 8pm. There are times that when I get home I want to play a game, especially if its a new game and friends are online playing. Therefore digital delivery is a better option for me. If I can have it purchased and start the download at 12:01 am on release day, or make the purchase during the work day and have it downloaded and ready to go for me, that will win.

xmiyux 09-11-13 02:12 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11830449)
How many of you really have Tuesday's off work to play at 10am? :lol:

Now Sunday releases, digital would make more sense.

I do next week.

But otherwise only in the summer months, Christmas break, Spring break, Thanksgiving break, etc.

So often enough that at least once or twice a year a new release makes me want to buy it locally at open.

But I never go to midnight releases. Too many crowds. Too late for this old guy. And entirely too many students in line. :lol:

fumanstan 09-11-13 02:14 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
I've mentioned this a few times, but with Steam games they'll often unlock at 12 AM EST and 9 PM PST for me, which means i've been able to play a new release Monday night right away. And even then, some people will stay up late that night to play right at midnight for a few hours. So it's not about having a Tuesday off to play games most of the time.

Dan 09-11-13 02:14 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by Canis Firebrand (Post 11830444)
However... if, say 3 months after release, a game is priced $29.99 for physical copy and still $59.99 for digital, it shouldn't be any surprise that the physical copy would get the purchase.

:up: I'd even go so far as saying that I'll just keep waiting for the digital price to drop, or not bother getting the game. It's not like there won't be dozens of other games to play. :)

I think, with MS' all-digital strategy, they were trying to level the playing field between physical and digital retailers (because digital for them meant you do not HAVE to buy direct from MS). Also, fuck over traders/re-sellers. ;)

RichC2 09-11-13 02:16 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
I still think they should be able to sell digital copies in store via redemption cards. Put those on sale at the same time as the physical copy. Done.

Since the entire point of sales is to get your ass in the door, they could require you claim it in person and just e-mail you the code and call it a day.

Michael Corvin 09-11-13 02:25 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11830469)
I still think they should be able to sell digital copies in store via redemption cards. Put those on sale at the same time as the physical copy. Done.

I agree. Only difference is clearance items. Never worked retail, would they clearance out a rack of gift cards for space or just chuck them?

RichC2 09-11-13 02:44 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
Both Target and Walmart have clearanced cards in the past.

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2599/0516090707.jpg

Groucho 09-11-13 02:47 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11830411)
That really doesn't sound too overly complicated, but I will take their word for it.

Especially since the current system already works that way.

fujishig 09-11-13 06:57 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 11830465)
:up: I'd even go so far as saying that I'll just keep waiting for the digital price to drop, or not bother getting the game. It's not like there won't be dozens of other games to play. :)

This, I think, is the unspoken problem with digital, at least from a company wanting to make money perspective. Both MSFT and Sony have shown that they're willing to have pretty decent sales/PSPlus deals on digital games. Part of my mentality when buying a game is that I want to have a copy before it becomes hard to get; true, nowadays there are very few rare games, but if I see a decent deal at launch I'll probably pounce. I've noticed that with digital games, I'll just wait, because it'll always be there, it'll never go up in price, and if anything it'll be cheaper later. They lose that impulse buy, and perhaps even the sale if I never get back to it because something newer or shinier has my eye. Granted, this isn't true for multiplayer games and not everyone has the insane backlog of games that I have.

I really wanted that Ducktales game, but missed the preorder bonuses. At this point, I'll probably wait for a digital sale or forget about it entirely.

TheKing 09-11-13 07:30 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 11830907)
This, I think, is the unspoken problem with digital, at least from a company wanting to make money perspective. Both MSFT and Sony have shown that they're willing to have pretty decent sales/PSPlus deals on digital games. Part of my mentality when buying a game is that I want to have a copy before it becomes hard to get; true, nowadays there are very few rare games, but if I see a decent deal at launch I'll probably pounce. I've noticed that with digital games, I'll just wait, because it'll always be there, it'll never go up in price, and if anything it'll be cheaper later. They lose that impulse buy, and perhaps even the sale if I never get back to it because something newer or shinier has my eye. Granted, this isn't true for multiplayer games and not everyone has the insane backlog of games that I have.

I really wanted that Ducktales game, but missed the preorder bonuses. At this point, I'll probably wait for a digital sale or forget about it entirely.

I find the price drops faster on physical media than digital, at least so far. Games that are $20 in stores are still $60 in the digital realm. It's not true all the time, and digital still has deals, but the physical media still has the advantage of taking up shelf space. And as long as it does, lies the incentive of the store to get it off the shelf.

Deftones 09-11-13 07:34 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
I see Major Nelson is rolling around to Microsoft stores showing off the Xbox One. There is one coming to Scottsdale. I thought it could be fun to go check it out. I looked at the date and it is December 3rd. :lol:

I'll have already been playing mine for 2 weeks by then.

Liver&Onions 09-11-13 11:48 PM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
Anyone want to place some wagers on which launch title needed a "full lobotomy" of the audio?

http://www.justpushstart.com/2013/09...udio-overhaul/

chuckd21 09-12-13 12:30 AM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
If it's a first party title, then it's Ryse.

chuckd21 09-12-13 12:57 AM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
:sad:

On Xbox One, games are just games. Whether it's a downloadable retail game or what would formally be known as a Live Arcade game, they're all the same in the Xbox Live Game Store. One consequence of that decision is that there is no demo requirement for games on Xbox One.

"Not all games will have demos like Xbox Live arcade games have had on Xbox 360," Microsoft's Marc Whitten said.

Microsoft's new policy matches the one PlayStation has had for the entirety of PS3. That decision has sometimes been criticized, as games would less frequently offer demos on PlayStation Network. "That said, we are going to work on lots of ways to make it easy for you to find and try new games on the service," he told IGN (via OXM).

Retail games will also be offered digitally on Xbox One. However, unlike Steam, games cannot be preloaded before release. "Not at launch, but you'll see us do this and much more over the life of the program," Whitten pointed out. You will be able to play games as they download, however.

flashburn 09-12-13 05:56 AM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
Maybe every game can just have a sort of trial mode where they let you play for 30 minutes one time or something? Seems like that would be an easy solution.

Music 09-12-13 07:19 AM

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 
Wow... way to go backwards to match the PS3....


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