Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

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Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Most people are joking with this whole "They're going to spy on me!" crap right? I can never tell with the interwebs.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

I'm not saying that there will be spying via the Kinect, but I think you are deluded if you think the government, NSA specifically, would refuse to use a possible means of spying because it was cheesy or accomplished by using a "toy." I would suggest that it is specifically because of attitudes like this that it would be more possible and likely to be an available tool during the lifespan of the device.

Also, lets get back to arguing over specs and how cool Ryse doesn't look.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

I'm pretty sure they said that you could even turn that feature off.
Doesn't matter, though, because .gifs and music videos are awesome.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

I'm just taken aback by the massive cultural shift something like this exposes. Because this sort of thing, however benign, would SO NOT be cool 20 or 30 years ago.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

There have been cameras on the 360 almost since launch and a few years into the PS3 lifecycle. There are cameras on both Nintendo and Sony handhelds. I just want to hear one... ONE documented case of a video game unit's camera being hacked. That's all I'd like to hear.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

ghost-hacked:

http://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2...activity_4.jpg

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Where do you think that Scarlett Johansson sex tape originated?

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

There hasn't been any official statement about low power mode, but I'm pretty sure that's the default mode for an "off" Xbox One. There's been no details about whether you can disable certain functions the Xbox One does in low power mode (check for/download updates or new purchases).

Even the 360 is never completely off. It has to be able to detect wireless controllers in order to be turned on by them.

MS did say that the Kinect feature of listening for "Xbox One" when "off" could be disabled, that may be what you're thinking of.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

So because something hasn't been hacked yet, that means it can never be hacked?

The PS3 was out for about 6 years before its master keys were revealed. Just because something hasn't been hacked yet doesn't mean it's unhackable.

Also, some people are more worried about MS "cooperating" with governments and the like to allow snooping, no hacking necessary.

And again, MS officially plans for the Kinect to monitor your TV viewing habits and target ads at you. Some people may simply want to stop it from doing that.
http://consumerist.com/2013/07/08/th...d-advertising/

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

I'm outraged! I'm going to take a picture of my outrage with my cellphone that has a camera and tracks my every movement, is always online and I carry everywhere with me and that I use to advertise to the world that I eat at certain restaurants and shop at certain stores. Or maybe I'll blog about it on my laptop that is always connected to the internet via broadband and has a built-in camera.

;)

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

So we go from the Kinect not watching us, to the game system always on. On that note: who cares?

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Obviously, some people care, which is why MS revised their plans so that the Kinect could be disconnected.

The people overly concerned about the Kinect on the Xbox One are probably not the same people that use FourSquare. As slop101 pointed out, there's likely plenty of people today raised in an "always online" world not too concerned about the Kinect "spying" on them, but older or simply more privacy conscious people have concerns.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

I'm sure there are some legitimately concerned people and they likely make sure that no technology is infringing on their privacy.. I was more pointing out hypocrisy that people are concerned about one technology device while probably ignoring others. I actually overheard an elderly man and his son or grandson talking about being tracked and monitored through the cellphone the younger person carried. All while the older person happily handed over his shopper loyalty card to the cashier in the store. That card tracks data as well and he doesn't seem to care about that "invasion" of his privacy.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

You're living in the past. The system isn't out. Quit beating a dead horse, for your own sanity.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

They're he-ere

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

My concern about the Kinect is not privacy based. If Microsoft wants to watch a middle-aged man fall asleep on the couch they are welcome to it.

My issue is that I'm being asked to pay $100.00 for an accessory I do not want and will not use.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

How much did you pay for that top hat?

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Then don't get an xbox one. It's that simple.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Thanks Jay. I guess my point is... low power mode is no big deal. My coffee machine has low power mode. So does my microwave (how else would I know what time it is? ;)) I'm not saying it's happening here, but if the complaint is shifting towards that, then it is absurd. But...

I agree and understand this. While I am comfortable with a Kinect in my living room, one of my brothers most definitely would NOT be. He'd be putting tape over that thing, even if it was unplugged (yeah). My other brother, has a smart TV, which is "always on and always connected" and has a camera on it specifically for Skype. I bet he's never even considered that the thing could be hacked or ON when he's not using it.

When the X1 is released, two things are absolutely going to happen:
- someone out there will test the shit out of it to ensure that there's no "unknown" bandwidth usage. They'll find "something" which will turn out to just be the heartbeat for things like auto-on or auto-download while you're away, and people will freak out, thinking that MS and the NSA are spying on them.
- hackers will make every effort they can get into the system, just to prove that it's possible. Hell, it would be in Sony's best interest if they paid some hackers to do it.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Maybe it's hypocrisy, or maybe people have different opinions of the value of different aspects of their personal life. The old man may not like the idea of someone secretly tracking or spying on him, but doesn't give a damn if the grocery store knows that he buys Wheat Thins every week because he gets a discount on food by using the card.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Dude! That top hat allows DVDTalk to give all of Groucho's information and posting history to the NSA... and Disney!

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

Stolen web cam footage of the old man.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

In and of itself, low power mode is no big deal. However, when you combine low power mode with the ability to remotely turn the Xbox One back on (in order to download new updates), and an always-connected camera, then it becomes a bit more worrying.

It's like if your coffee machine had a camera and internet access built in. Then the idea of it never being off may be more disconcerting.

Re: Xbox One: Thoughts Turn Ironic on November 22nd
 

:lol: