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discostu1337 07-17-13 01:19 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
Back to non ranting news ;) I don't think I saw this posted yet. Pretty cool Kinect features for Killer Instinct with tournament facial recognition and automatic button config switching based on who is holding the controllers.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ay-on-xbox-one

chuckd21 07-17-13 01:22 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11767950)
Back to non ranting news ;) I don't think I saw this posted yet. Pretty cool Kinect features for Killer Instinct with tournament facial recognition and automatic button config switching based on who is holding the controllers.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ay-on-xbox-one

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discostu1337 07-17-13 01:35 PM

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Not quite sure what those pics were for...all the morons in the comments complaining about a cool extra feature that they don't have to use? Yeah, sounds about right.

RichC2 07-17-13 01:37 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
It's a feature I'll never use (I don't change my control schemes, save for inverted on FPS) but it is a nice implementation.

discostu1337 07-17-13 01:47 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11767981)
It's a feature I'll never use (I don't change my control schemes, save for inverted on FPS) but it is a nice implementation.

It's for if you have others over fighting with you and they all have different button configs, not so much for you yourself changing buttons. But yeah, I don't think I would personally use it either since nobody is ever over at my house ;)

fujishig 07-17-13 01:48 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11768000)
It's for if you have others over fighting with you and they all have different button configs, not so much for you yourself changing buttons. But yeah, I don't think I would personally use it either since nobody is ever over at my house ;)

They would have to come over regularly too, for it to be worth it. Not that I'm buying arcade sticks AGAIN for this gen.

Draven 07-17-13 01:51 PM

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I'm still taking all this Kinect stuff with a grain of salt. Remember the original one, where you were supposed to hold things up to the camera and they'd go into the world? Yeah, that didn't happen. :lol:

It'd be great if these things actually do work as promised.

Groucho 07-17-13 01:55 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
Yeah, I remember that "Milo" demo where the girl was sitting right next to the TV having a conversation with the on-screen character. Pretty much nothing they showed in that demo made it to the final product. In real life, "Milo" would be telling her to "Please stand back. Please stand back. Please stand back."

Dan 07-17-13 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11768015)
Yeah, I remember that "Milo" demo where the girl was sitting right next to the TV having a conversation with the on-screen character. Pretty much nothing they showed in that demo made it to the final product. In real life, "Milo" would be telling her to "Please stand back. Please stand back. Please stand back."

Hmm. Maybe that could be used for sensitivity training in the workplace.

MoviePage 07-17-13 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Draven (Post 11768007)
I'm still taking all this Kinect stuff with a grain of salt. Remember the original one, where you were supposed to hold things up to the camera and they'd go into the world? Yeah, that didn't happen. :lol:

I've played a couple of games that used that feature, so it was available. Not Kinect's fault, just poor implementation of the technology in games. In other words, the kind of thing they're trying to correct by making Kinect an integral part of the system next gen.

Michael Corvin 07-17-13 05:20 PM

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How is the poor implementation of a feature a result of the install base?

MoviePage 07-17-13 08:16 PM

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It's a result of developers (at best) half-heartedly implementing Kinect features since a large portion of their consumer base doesn't even own the technology. That's why MS is making it mandatory for the new console.

Note that I didn't say it was a smart move. ;)

atrium 07-17-13 08:41 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 11767647)
Really?

Please show us on the doll where Microsoft touched you.

Please show me any bias I have exhibited here.

the story is the same every time, one of us posts a news story from a credible source that doesn't necessarily cast a positive light on the Xbox One, and a select few individuals rapidly arrive to excuse MS of any responsibility in the matter. It's always someone else's fault.

It's cause the fighting fans are shitty.
It's cause gamers are entitled.
It's cause we just don't understand the family plan.

MoviePage 07-17-13 09:44 PM

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On the other hand, any time someone posts a news story from a credible source that doesn't necessarily cast a negative light on the Xbox One, a select few individuals rapidly arrive to put some sort of negative spin on it, claim that Sony is doing it better, or just throw in what amounts to "LOL MICROSOFT!" As a result, the genuinely valid negative stuff gets lost in the shuffle.

For fuck's sake, I don't want to defend MS after all the crap they tried to pull, but it has gotten ridiculous in here.

chess 07-17-13 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MoviePage (Post 11768550)
On the other hand, any time someone posts a news story from a credible source that doesn't necessarily cast a negative light on the Xbox One, a select few individuals rapidly arrive to put some sort of negative spin on it, claim that Sony is doing it better, or just throw in what amounts to "LOL MICROSOFT!" As a result, the genuinely valid negative stuff gets lost in the shuffle.

For fuck's sake, I don't want to defend MS after all the crap they tried to pull, but it has gotten ridiculous in here.

Please find a recent example of this.

MoviePage 07-17-13 10:59 PM

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No.

fumanstan 07-17-13 11:13 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11767950)
Back to non ranting news ;) I don't think I saw this posted yet. Pretty cool Kinect features for Killer Instinct with tournament facial recognition and automatic button config switching based on who is holding the controllers.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ay-on-xbox-one

As someone that swapped around SF4 configs, I think this is pretty neat too.

Michael Corvin 07-17-13 11:29 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
Definitely a cool way to utilize Kinect, but wouldn't saving your controls to your gamertag accomplish the same thing sans camera? I mean Wii Sports/Resort remembers you are left handed when you pick your Mii doesn't it? Similar concept.

Not something I'd ever user either, but neat concept.


Originally Posted by chess (Post 11768556)
Please find a recent example of this.

I'm not buyin' either.

chuckd21 07-17-13 11:56 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by atrium (Post 11768505)
Please show me any bias I have exhibited here.

the story is the same every time, one of us posts a news story from a credible source that doesn't necessarily cast a positive light on the Xbox One, and a select few individuals rapidly arrive to excuse MS of any responsibility in the matter. It's always someone else's fault.

It's cause the fighting fans are shitty.
It's cause gamers are entitled.
It's cause we just don't understand the family plan.

You do it all the time.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/11762506-post4659.html

Dumb article has nothing to do with the Xbox One, and when that's pointed out, you launch into the YOU WORK FOR MICROSOFT! bit. It doesn't help the conversation. Disagree? Fine. But the constant accusations towards people arguing a counterpoint is tiring.

I'm allowed to like the thing you hate.

discostu1337 07-18-13 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11768648)
Definitely a cool way to utilize Kinect, but wouldn't saving your controls to your gamertag accomplish the same thing sans camera? I mean Wii Sports/Resort remembers you are left handed when you pick your Mii doesn't it? Similar concept.

Sounds kind of similar, but the camera can do config swapping on the fly based on who is holding the controller. If you have a button configuration, then hand me the controller mid-match, it will change to my button config immediately. No pausing and logging in/out. They also mention setting up tournament brackets and stuff via facial recognition, which could be cool for fighting game people, but again, not so much for me.

atrium 07-18-13 04:06 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11768675)
You do it all the time.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/11762506-post4659.html

Dumb article has nothing to do with the Xbox One, and when that's pointed out, you launch into the YOU WORK FOR MICROSOFT! bit. It doesn't help the conversation. Disagree? Fine. But the constant accusations towards people arguing a counterpoint is tiring.

I'm allowed to like the thing you hate.

That's not bias, I was remarking on a poster getting berated for posting an on-topic article because he didn't like the negative tone of the article. almost an implication that we should only be posting the good news about Xbox one. Also the article has Xbox One in the title, the connection between the story and the Xbox One is obvious to Gamespot, K&AJones, and myself. maybe you just don't see it?

don't know if it changes anything to you, but I owned the 360 and only the 360 this gen. So any 'bias' I may exhibit is solely born out of my frustration with MS's decision making in the last 6 months; and not some entrenched hatred of the company as a whole

chess 07-18-13 06:32 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by MoviePage (Post 11768617)
No.

Too bad. I was really hoping you could illustrate in some way that you weren't making stuff up, or at a minimum, inferring intent that wasn't in actual posted words.

Every criticism I can recall has been factual, and I've not seen anybody crap on positive news (?) in the way you described.

chess 07-18-13 06:51 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11768675)
You do it all the time.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/11762506-post4659.html

Dumb article has nothing to do with the Xbox One, and when that's pointed out, you launch into the YOU WORK FOR MICROSOFT! bit. It doesn't help the conversation. Disagree? Fine. But the constant accusations towards people arguing a counterpoint is tiring.

Ironically, the link you posted is him quoting Music as he attacks the poster of an article rather than rebutting or ignoring the content of the entirely relevant article posted.

Granted, he makes the mistake of doing the same thing back to Music, but I find it amusing that you posted a link that shows the opposite of what I think you intended. :)

Michael Corvin 07-18-13 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11768683)
Sounds kind of similar, but the camera can do config swapping on the fly based on who is holding the controller. If you have a button configuration, then hand me the controller mid-match, it will change to my button config immediately. No pausing and logging in/out. They also mention setting up tournament brackets and stuff via facial recognition, which could be cool for fighting game people, but again, not so much for me.

It makes sense in a public setting, but at home hitting the guide button and selecting a gamertag is about as rough as hitting the input button on the remote.

Now what would be cool is if Kinect (here we go :lol:) stores your info on MS's side so you can go anywhere on any system and it would recognize you and log you in without having to log in with your gamertag. Even in a retail setting. Say you're checking out a kiosk and it sees you and logs you in and allows you to queue up special demos or content from there to your home console.

Again, I wouldn't have much use for said feature, and it would open a can of worms in regards to security(logging you out) but it would be kinda neat.

And here we are again coming up with the ideas for MS instead of them offering up practical uses for this thing. :)

Michael Corvin 07-18-13 08:23 AM

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Also, I've yet to see any mention of improvements in regards to Kinect picking up and tracking small children. That's always annoyed my two little ones. Have they mentioned anything in that regard?


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