At this point they'd just piss off a lot of people if they shut down that route without implementing a lot of loot changes to other aspects of the game. People are already highly unsatisfied with the game's loot system, and after the reviews I doubt Bungie wants more negative publicity. It would be very unwise to drive players away at this point.

nope. i got to level 20 then hit the cave. the loot drops are fucking stupid and broken in this game. if i have to farm a fucking cave to get remotely decent gear, then it is broken.

Got a legendary engram from the cave of wonders, but it turned out to be material

If they havnt changed it yet, its not going to get changed. We saw how fast the Xur glimmer/strange coin exploit was fixed.

Grinding is not fun. If its not fun why play? At least with Diablo you must play through the level as intended. Here you're just standing in the same place popping off headshots non stop.

Loot drops in Diablo are significantly more frequent than they are in this game.

I guess we now know what the first two expansions will be. Two more spawn caves.

Isn't one called the Cave of the Wolf or Wolves Den?

If it was ascendant material, which it probably was, you'll be thankful for it later.

Building skills.

There are no skills with this game other than teamwork. Almost every mission and strike: Hold on, let me decrypt this. Its far into the future but my OS is Windows ME, hold off three waves of enemy's while I take care of this.

the first 1-2 years of Diablo 3 it could take 200 hours of play before you saw a legendary...

I honestly think the loot rate is fine. The higher level you get the more legendary items keep coming in. It is a slow process, but one that rewards you with play. At this point I have 4 exotic and 12 legendary items, and I have maybe 35 hours in the game. Most of those items came from buying them from vendors, xur or leveling up the cryptarch. I only today tried out the cave for about 1 hour (and got this bad boy http://destiny.wikia.com/wiki/Suros_Regime)

Also, because you have to level up the loot you find, I think they sort of want you to get that exotic weapon and stick with it a while so you are not hit with something new right away. (I have this problem with 2 main exotic weapons though I am sticking with that Suros since it is a beast) I also am not sure, it might be rng being good to me, but I think the higher your cyptarch level the better the loot is when he identifies it.

Diablo 3 is amazing. I have 1500 hours in it, but at this point I get maybe 25 legendary items every night of play. 98% of the legendary items are trash used only to make good items better. When you finally get that good legendary you feel amazing. Destiny is only giving you that 2 or so percent of those items as you play. If they want to increase the rate, they need to add at least 100-200 new legendary items to the table, and make sure about 10% of them are amazing while the rest are just average.

I love Destiny but all this talk about Diablo makes me want to check it out.

Yeah, people seem to forget that the loot drop rate in Diablo 3 was fixed later. I bought the game upon release, and I didn't stick with it because of the horrendous drop rate and repetitiveness of grinding. I hear great things now, but it didn't start out great.

All I know is I have been Level 20 for what seems like a week. A lot of my PvE time is spent with lower-leveled friends getting them through the story. So that might be the issue.

I still have Uncommon boots but have gotten the same damn Rare chest armor a dozen times.

And I just got my leg armor literally 10 seconds after I typed this. Was part of the story I kept ignoring.

Finally got a exotic bounty. Doubt Ill ever finish it. 10,000 pts it pvp sounds like a chore.

It shouldn't be too bad. That's 100 kills, and that's only if you get zero assists or any other match points. It's probably shorter than you think.

That will take me hours. I usually end up with under a .50 k/d ratio. I am terrible at pvp

Play Control, I typically never have a good k/d ratio either. But in an alright match I get at least 1500 to 2000 points. You get 25 points per neutralization/75 points per capture. You get an extra 50 also for each control point your team holds when you do get a kill. Honestly at most I could see it take 2 hours, and along the way who knows what you might earn.

It was not bad, I think it took me 8 matches...I had one match where I went .60 k/d (my score was 3000 in that match but it goes off your kills) and still got 800 points toward the 10,000...then I had a match I went 3.8 K/D and only got 1200 points.

The problem is the gun you get is sort of bad, at least until you level it up (which I have not yet) The 15 round clip really hurts until you unlock the power that auto-loads the clip after a kill.

I think your deaths come off all the points you get though. Not sure how it works, but I had one match I went 3000 points, and had a .60 K/D (like I said in my above post) and only got 800 points toward the bounty. Then I had a match I had 5000 points and 3.8 KD and I got 1200 toward the bounty. I also had a match I went 1.60 K/D and got 2000 points. (I think someone said kills on warlocks nets you double points) I could never figure it out...I only know even going .60 K/D I did 8% of the bounty in one match.

Got my first legendary...a helmet for my Warlock and it was in either the daily or weekly event I did yesterday and not in that stupid cave. One thing I did find out I didn't know.... a 25000 Glimmer Cap. At least I can spread that across all three characters.

I joined three random groups on the Strike Missions and actually had a good time...started a forth and one person dropped right away after landing and he was a Level 24. I'd rather go back on the Strike Missions though we still need to complete the story and do them along with Bounties and look for Public Events

just make sure at level 20+ you are finding and equipping blue items with Light

yeah, I didn't realize there was the cap until I couldn't have an item decoded
easy spend was on shaders in the tower