Mass Effect 3
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Re: Mass Effect 3
There was the option in ME2 to "have dinner" with Yeoman Kelly with a female Shepard after the final Collectors battle. The female Shepard can "have a moment" with Morinth or Samara, but since they are Asari, I guess they fall under the "no gender" category. (Are there Asari that could be considered male? I guess not.)
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Romance
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Romance
The Asari are essentially like that non-gendered alien that Riker romanced in TNG.
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I guess. Storyline wise, it bothers me. If Bioware had allowed for a gay/lesbian relationship from game one, it might make sense. Remember the "controversy" over the sex scenes from the first ME title? The series makes it pretty clear that relationships are important, and that the love scene is a consummation of that moment. (Yes, I know that you can either keep or ditch the love interest from ME1 in ME2, but they did kill you, so it allowed for a personality change if you wanted it.)
Suddenly adding it into the (possibly) final game of the story seems antithetical at this point, and contrary to what the first two games established with relationships and sex. Unless your Shepard is nicknamed "Captain Jack".
Suddenly adding it into the (possibly) final game of the story seems antithetical at this point, and contrary to what the first two games established with relationships and sex. Unless your Shepard is nicknamed "Captain Jack".
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If it truly bothers you, then don't participate in it in your story. It's optional, not required, and some people might want their version of Shepherd's story to go that route. It's really as simple as that.
There are plenty of perfectly reasonable explanations that could make such a change fit for those who are concerned about storyline continuity. And for that matter, it's entirely possible to build a Shepherd across the past 2 games who could already qualify as gay, since all romance was optional from the beginning. I'd imagine that Bioware isn't just going to awkwardly shoehorn the option into their carefully crafted story.
There are plenty of perfectly reasonable explanations that could make such a change fit for those who are concerned about storyline continuity. And for that matter, it's entirely possible to build a Shepherd across the past 2 games who could already qualify as gay, since all romance was optional from the beginning. I'd imagine that Bioware isn't just going to awkwardly shoehorn the option into their carefully crafted story.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
On a side note, Ashley was meant to be bisexual and even had dialogue recorded for a romance with Female Shepard. For whatever reason, the scene was cut from the finished game. Likewise, Miranda was also meant to be bisexual but that idea was nixed before any dialogue to that effect was ever recorded.
Yeah, I was aware of those two. Although I had to download a video of the Morinth encounter cos I kill her every time.
I did with one of mine.
Unless you didn't play DAII, I'm gonna assume that's sarcasm.
Yeah, I was aware of those two. Although I had to download a video of the Morinth encounter cos I kill her every time.

I did with one of mine.

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Re: Mass Effect 3
if they really want to make money on the game they need to sell a DLC key that unlocks graphic sex and not the pg-13 type stuff that's in the game
i think the reason they are doing it now is that their little experiment with the easter egg in dragon age didn't cause any drops in sales so now they can make it official
i think the reason they are doing it now is that their little experiment with the easter egg in dragon age didn't cause any drops in sales so now they can make it official
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Re: Mass Effect 3
if they really want to make money on the game they need to sell a DLC key that unlocks graphic sex and not the pg-13 type stuff that's in the game
i think the reason they are doing it now is that their little experiment with the easter egg in dragon age didn't cause any drops in sales so now they can make it official
i think the reason they are doing it now is that their little experiment with the easter egg in dragon age didn't cause any drops in sales so now they can make it official
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Re: Mass Effect 3
there was the gay sex part in one of the dragon age games
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/ar.../05dragon.html
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/ar.../05dragon.html
Like many video role-playing games, Dragon Age: Origins, a medieval epic that was released in November for PCs, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, gives its players far more to do than wage war against mythical beasts.
The game, which was developed by BioWare and published by Electronic Arts, and is meant to take 60 to 80 hours to complete, allows players to develop combat and magic skills, interact with other characters and have romantic encounters. If you play as a male character, it is even possible to have a liaison with a male elf named Zevran.
This last detail has gotten Dragon Age: Origins (which is rated M for Mature, meaning that it is intended for players 17 and older) noticed by the news media, and has prompted a range of responses about the depiction of gay sex in mass entertainment.
At the conservative Web site World Net Daily (wnd.com), in an article with the headline “Players have dirty ‘gay’ sex in hit game,” Chelsea Schilling wrote that Dragon Age: Origins “depicts two men in various sex positions in a secret scene of homosexual seduction.” The gossip blog Gawker.com took notice of the game and the World Net Daily article, and responded with a rhetorical question: “Who, in these United States, could possibly object to foisting this content on teenaged boys?” Ryan Tate wrote. “Oh, right, like half the population.”
The game has also been noted by political and cultural bloggers, including Ta-Nehisi Coates of The Atlantic, and cited by the Web site GayGamer.net, which wrote that the scene “shines equality on gay love.”
BioWare, the game studio in Edmonton, Alberta, that created Dragon Age: Origins, said the inclusion of the gay sex scene, as well as other romantic interludes, was not meant to incite arguments or bolster any social causes, but to provide players with an immersive gaming experience.
“This isn’t a product about controversy,” Mike Laidlaw, the game’s lead designer, said in a telephone interview. “It isn’t a product designed to shock, by any means.”
Instead, Mr. Laidlaw said, the game “is designed to celebrate player choice and create a story that is reactive to the way you choose to play it.” The key to creating a believable game experience, he said, “is telling a good story.” He added, “Among the tools that we have as storytellers, I see romance as being one of the principal ones.”
BioWare, which also produces popular adventure games like Baldur’s Gate, Mass Effect and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, pointed out that the gay love scene in Dragon Age: Origins occurs only if the player chooses it. To prompt the sequence — which is far more chaste than scenes in “Brokeback Mountain” — the player must accept an invitation from Zevran to his tent and prompt him with a few lines of innuendo-laden dialogue. (“I was raised to take my pleasures where they could be found,” Zevran says after the rendezvous.)
Though male-female and lesbian couplings are also possible in the game (which received a highly positive score of 91 from the review-aggregation Web site Metacritic.com) for its PC release, it is the gay sex scene that seems to have provoked the most discussion and generated the most hostile reactions from commentators.
Other game publishers have faced severe punishments for depicting sexual acts in their releases. In 2005 the makers of the Grand Theft Auto video games — already disliked by parents and pundits because of their violent contents — were investigated by the Federal Trade Commission and faced several lawsuits when players discovered hidden sex scenes in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. (These companies reached a settlement with the commission in 2006 and paid settlements in some cases.)
Expressions of gay attraction among actual humans can also have consequences in other entertainment media.
In recent days, the singer Adam Lambert had his appearances canceled on the ABC talk shows “Good Morning America” and “Jimmy Kimmel Live,” after his Nov. 22 performance at the American Music Awards, during which he kissed a male band mate and simulated sex acts with his male and female dancers. (The network has acknowledged that the performance received numerous complaints, but said it was not punishing Mr. Lambert, who is gay, for his sexual orientation.)
Mr. Laidlaw said that BioWare knew about the criticism of the gay scene in its game, but added that these comments were not coming from its customers. “People who have played the game are very happy with the experience that they’ve been having,” he said. “If players are happy with the experience, I think we’ve done our job.”
The game, which was developed by BioWare and published by Electronic Arts, and is meant to take 60 to 80 hours to complete, allows players to develop combat and magic skills, interact with other characters and have romantic encounters. If you play as a male character, it is even possible to have a liaison with a male elf named Zevran.
This last detail has gotten Dragon Age: Origins (which is rated M for Mature, meaning that it is intended for players 17 and older) noticed by the news media, and has prompted a range of responses about the depiction of gay sex in mass entertainment.
At the conservative Web site World Net Daily (wnd.com), in an article with the headline “Players have dirty ‘gay’ sex in hit game,” Chelsea Schilling wrote that Dragon Age: Origins “depicts two men in various sex positions in a secret scene of homosexual seduction.” The gossip blog Gawker.com took notice of the game and the World Net Daily article, and responded with a rhetorical question: “Who, in these United States, could possibly object to foisting this content on teenaged boys?” Ryan Tate wrote. “Oh, right, like half the population.”
The game has also been noted by political and cultural bloggers, including Ta-Nehisi Coates of The Atlantic, and cited by the Web site GayGamer.net, which wrote that the scene “shines equality on gay love.”
BioWare, the game studio in Edmonton, Alberta, that created Dragon Age: Origins, said the inclusion of the gay sex scene, as well as other romantic interludes, was not meant to incite arguments or bolster any social causes, but to provide players with an immersive gaming experience.
“This isn’t a product about controversy,” Mike Laidlaw, the game’s lead designer, said in a telephone interview. “It isn’t a product designed to shock, by any means.”
Instead, Mr. Laidlaw said, the game “is designed to celebrate player choice and create a story that is reactive to the way you choose to play it.” The key to creating a believable game experience, he said, “is telling a good story.” He added, “Among the tools that we have as storytellers, I see romance as being one of the principal ones.”
BioWare, which also produces popular adventure games like Baldur’s Gate, Mass Effect and Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, pointed out that the gay love scene in Dragon Age: Origins occurs only if the player chooses it. To prompt the sequence — which is far more chaste than scenes in “Brokeback Mountain” — the player must accept an invitation from Zevran to his tent and prompt him with a few lines of innuendo-laden dialogue. (“I was raised to take my pleasures where they could be found,” Zevran says after the rendezvous.)
Though male-female and lesbian couplings are also possible in the game (which received a highly positive score of 91 from the review-aggregation Web site Metacritic.com) for its PC release, it is the gay sex scene that seems to have provoked the most discussion and generated the most hostile reactions from commentators.
Other game publishers have faced severe punishments for depicting sexual acts in their releases. In 2005 the makers of the Grand Theft Auto video games — already disliked by parents and pundits because of their violent contents — were investigated by the Federal Trade Commission and faced several lawsuits when players discovered hidden sex scenes in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. (These companies reached a settlement with the commission in 2006 and paid settlements in some cases.)
Expressions of gay attraction among actual humans can also have consequences in other entertainment media.
In recent days, the singer Adam Lambert had his appearances canceled on the ABC talk shows “Good Morning America” and “Jimmy Kimmel Live,” after his Nov. 22 performance at the American Music Awards, during which he kissed a male band mate and simulated sex acts with his male and female dancers. (The network has acknowledged that the performance received numerous complaints, but said it was not punishing Mr. Lambert, who is gay, for his sexual orientation.)
Mr. Laidlaw said that BioWare knew about the criticism of the gay scene in its game, but added that these comments were not coming from its customers. “People who have played the game are very happy with the experience that they’ve been having,” he said. “If players are happy with the experience, I think we’ve done our job.”
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Re: Mass Effect 3
Is that the "easter egg" you were talking about? That was a known game mechanic. I thought you were saying there was a hardcore sex easter egg.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
i don't think it was advertised and it was a bit of a big deal when people found out about it. since it didn't cause any revenue loss i guess bioware is now being open with gay sex on their next title
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Re: Mass Effect 3
I actually haven't yet. I'm just now playing through the first DA game, and my male character has done the deed with Morrigan, Leliana, and Zevran. I tried with Alistair too, but he's being difficult. Maybe some more ale will do the trick.
(Yes, I know it's impossible.)
But it does seem from what I've read about DA II (and experienced with DA:O) that Bioware has taken more care with the ME universe and its story continuity than they have with DA.
(Yes, I know it's impossible.)But it does seem from what I've read about DA II (and experienced with DA:O) that Bioware has taken more care with the ME universe and its story continuity than they have with DA.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
I actually haven't yet. I'm just now playing through the first DA game, and my male character has done the deed with Morrigan, Leliana, and Zevran. I tried with Alistair too, but he's being difficult. Maybe some more ale will do the trick.
(Yes, I know it's impossible.)
But it does seem from what I've read about DA II (and experienced with DA:O) that Bioware has taken more care with the ME universe and its story continuity than they have with DA.
(Yes, I know it's impossible.)But it does seem from what I've read about DA II (and experienced with DA:O) that Bioware has taken more care with the ME universe and its story continuity than they have with DA.
) and whomever beds you first gets the option of getting in a permanent relationship with you or you kick them to the curb. But you can't string two along at the same time. Though Anders will bitch at your girl even if nothing ever happened with him. 
With Mass Effect, the romances are better woven into the actual story.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
I don't think anyone has any issues with Shepard being gay or not. What seems silly, assuming it wasn't simply a joke, is the notion of dedicating a segment of the game to "educate" people about it. Just make homosexual romances an option and don't sweat it beyond making them (and their heterosexual counterparts) well written scenarios.
Anyhoo, this post from another forum has a nice set of pics from the game:
"There won't be an Earth left to save..."
The story is the epic conclusion to the story started in Mass Effect and continued in Mass Effect 2, as well as the conclusion of Commander Shepard's story. Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final mission to take back the Earth.
Combat and Exploration
Mass Effect 3's changes to Mass Effect 2's core combat mechanics are not as drastic as the changes Mass Effect 2 made to the original Mass Effect, however improvements have been made and new capabilities introduced. These include:
Weapons
Mass Effect 3 makes several changes to the way weapons worked in Mass Effect 2, these include:
Powers
Improved Branching Powers and Abilities - Mass Effect 3 features larger skill trees that offer a greater degree of freedom when it comes to choosing skills. Whereas Mass Effect 2 offered a choice of two evolved versions of a power upon reaching Rank 4, Mass Effect 3 grants the ability to evolve and branch powers multiple times.
Save File Transfer
As with Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3 will allow the player to import their save file from the previous game, carrying over their decisions from both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, totaling over 1000 variables. As Mass Effect 3 will import decisions not just from Mass Effect 2, but the original Mass Effect as well, some of the player's decisions from Mass Effect that did not have impact in Mass Effect 2 could potentially have an impact in Mass Effect 3.
If Commander Shepard died in the player's Mass Effect 2 playthrough, however, the player will be unable to to import their save game. Mass Effect 3's story is a continuation of Shepard's story and if Shepard died in Mass Effect 2 that death is considered final. Similarly, any squadmates who did not survive the suicide mission at the end of Mass Effect 2 will not return in Mass Effect 3.
Also known to have an impact in Mass Effect 3 is any romance the player has pursued. If Commander Shepard had a love interest in Mass Effect, yet pursued a new love interest in Mass Effect 2, this could have negative repercussions for Shepard's relationship in Mass Effect 3.
Anyhoo, this post from another forum has a nice set of pics from the game:
http://masseffect.bioware.com/

Publisher: Electronic Arts Developer: BioWare
Genre: Action/Adventure, RPG, Shooter Players: 1
Released on Blu-ray Disc: Q1 2012
Game Overview

Publisher: Electronic Arts Developer: BioWare
Genre: Action/Adventure, RPG, Shooter Players: 1
Released on Blu-ray Disc: Q1 2012
Game Overview
"There won't be an Earth left to save..."
The story is the epic conclusion to the story started in Mass Effect and continued in Mass Effect 2, as well as the conclusion of Commander Shepard's story. Earth is burning. Striking from beyond known space, a race of terrifying machines have begun their destruction of the human race. As Commander Shepard, an Alliance Marine, your only hope for saving mankind is to rally the civilizations of the galaxy and launch one final mission to take back the Earth.
Features
Combat and Exploration
Mass Effect 3's changes to Mass Effect 2's core combat mechanics are not as drastic as the changes Mass Effect 2 made to the original Mass Effect, however improvements have been made and new capabilities introduced. These include:
- New movement dynamics - Changes to movement in combat including the ability to roll, leap over ledges or gaps without taking cover first and optimised maneuvering and firing from cover. There is now an increase in overall combat speed of 10-15%.
- Melee plays a larger role - All classes receive improved melee with each one receiving a unique heavy melee attack.
- Improved Enemy AI - Enemies now perform specific functions on the battlefield and coordinate with other enemies. For example, 'cover buster' enemies, such as Husks, are often paired with a 'suppressor' enemy type, which will try to keep Shepard in cover while the Husks get in close.
- Improved Exploration - Exploration will return as a main gameplay mechanic, alongside a revamped mining mechanic
Weapons
Mass Effect 3 makes several changes to the way weapons worked in Mass Effect 2, these include:
- The ability for all classes to wield any type of weapon - Classes will be limited by the number of weapons they can carry at any one time, with the Soldier being the only class that can wield every weapon class at once.
- The return of weapon modifications - Players will be able to modify their weapons with different parts, such as barrels, scopes and materials, that will affect the weapon's combat performance and appearance.
- Guerilla warfare - Shepard can pick up and wield weapons dropped by enemies.
Powers
Improved Branching Powers and Abilities - Mass Effect 3 features larger skill trees that offer a greater degree of freedom when it comes to choosing skills. Whereas Mass Effect 2 offered a choice of two evolved versions of a power upon reaching Rank 4, Mass Effect 3 grants the ability to evolve and branch powers multiple times.
Save File Transfer
As with Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3 will allow the player to import their save file from the previous game, carrying over their decisions from both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, totaling over 1000 variables. As Mass Effect 3 will import decisions not just from Mass Effect 2, but the original Mass Effect as well, some of the player's decisions from Mass Effect that did not have impact in Mass Effect 2 could potentially have an impact in Mass Effect 3.
If Commander Shepard died in the player's Mass Effect 2 playthrough, however, the player will be unable to to import their save game. Mass Effect 3's story is a continuation of Shepard's story and if Shepard died in Mass Effect 2 that death is considered final. Similarly, any squadmates who did not survive the suicide mission at the end of Mass Effect 2 will not return in Mass Effect 3.
Also known to have an impact in Mass Effect 3 is any romance the player has pursued. If Commander Shepard had a love interest in Mass Effect, yet pursued a new love interest in Mass Effect 2, this could have negative repercussions for Shepard's relationship in Mass Effect 3.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
Is there a link to the actual forum post? I can't find anything, just a Gamespot post with the same image. The way it's written seems like a joke.
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Re: Mass Effect 3
It does read as a very tongue-in-cheek post but people seem to think it's legit given they earlier made a point of announcing that homosexual relatiuonships are now possible.
EDIT: I'm inclined to say the post is bogus since, beyond a jpg posted on various sites, no one has been able to turn up the actual thread (or forum) were it was supposedly posted.
EDIT: I'm inclined to say the post is bogus since, beyond a jpg posted on various sites, no one has been able to turn up the actual thread (or forum) were it was supposedly posted.
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It's definitely a joke, and I never imagined it could be anything else. An intricate coming-out story that takes up a significant portion of the game? Forced observation of an "intimate homosexual encounter" whether your Shepard is gay or not? Come on! 
Anyway, back to reality:
Best news I've heard about this game yet!

Anyway, back to reality:
Best news I've heard about this game yet!
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Wait, there was sex scenes in the Mass Effects. Man, I missed a shitload of stuff on my first play-through of 1 and 2. My Sheppard, a female, had illusions to lesbian tendancies but was pretty much all attitude against her team. Maybe that's what got 75% of them killed at the end of ME2. It's going to be an interesting start to part 3.
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to Bioware for including more options for diversity.
