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bralph 01-14-11 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shaane (Post 10589954)
If you were asking me, I can't say.

(I guess I should have been more specific on my last post. I actually picked up the Fender wooden replica, not the pro guitar.)

The replica guitar is really, really impressive. I didn't think it would quite so close to a real guitar...but it is. Money well spent, in my opinion.

I also would like to get the pro guitar. I've heard good things about it from many that have purchased it. The learning curve (I have no real guitar experience) is the one thing that keeps me from dropping the cash.

Thanks for the info. I was more or less just tossing it out there for opinions. $75 each for a Pro guitar and bass seems like a really good deal, but I didn't see anyone else discussing it, so I thought maybe I was missing something.

Michael Corvin 01-14-11 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shaane (Post 10589954)

The replica guitar is really, really impressive. I didn't think it would quite so close to a real guitar...but it is. Money well spent, in my opinion.

It is a real guitar. It's simply gutted for electronics and buttons. And yeah, there are a few of us here with them that swear by them. It's an awesome product. It honestly makes all the other guitars seem like Fisher Price toys.

pinata242 01-14-11 03:23 PM

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The only problem I have with my wooden strat is that I find the G and O buttons too far apart for my infant hands. When I can reach to hit them simultaneously, I just as often pinch myself under one of them and it won't actually depress. I can't remember the specifics right now, but I know it's embarrassing and annoying.

That may be true of all RB guitars, though, as I used my GH3 LP exclusively until I switched to this.

bralph 01-14-11 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10590019)
It is a real guitar. It's simply gutted for electronics and buttons. And yeah, there are a few of us here with them that swear by them. It's an awesome product. It honestly makes all the other guitars seem like Fisher Price toys.

I don't think the wooden replica is available for Wii (I know, I know...), so is the Fender Pro guitar my next best choice? (Again keeping in mind that I'm coming from the GHWT instruments.)

Adam Tyner 01-14-11 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10589929)
RBN1's demise is imminent. Long live RBN2.0!

For those of us in the PS3 crowd, I'm guessing this means that if an existing RBN track we want hasn't made its way over, we're running out of chances to ever see it (well, unless it's resubmitted through RBN2). That's kind of a drag.

I am looking forward to RBN songs with keys, tho'.

pinata242 01-14-11 04:14 PM

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My understanding of the RBN 360->PS3 process is that it's totally in-house at HMX.

They basically take the approved track and "convert" it to PS3. What goes into that is questionable, and it may just be MS->Sony overhead.

I can't imagine the rolled-out version of RBN would have much impact on the process.

Adam Tyner 01-14-11 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10590095)
I can't imagine the rolled-out version of RBN would have much impact on the process.

What I mean is that if they're cutting off RBN 1.0 submissions in favor of RBN 2.0, I'm assuming that 360 RBN 1.0 tracks will stop being converted for the PS3 shortly after that...that the conversion pipeline will move to RBN 2.0 as well.

pinata242 01-14-11 05:22 PM

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Even if that were the case, RBN1.0 doesn't have any feature that RBN2.0 won't have. Should be no problem for that as long as you have RB3.

RBN2.0 will not support RB2, that's true, but there's no reason why RBN1.0 can't be converted to RBN2.0 along with the MS to Sony move.

Adam Tyner 01-14-11 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10590195)
RBN2.0 will not support RB2, that's true, but there's no reason why RBN1.0 can't be converted to RBN2.0 along with the MS to Sony move.

I'm not arguing that it's not technically possible...just that I think RBN 1.0 tracks will be ignored for conversion and that they'll focus on 2.0 tracks. That's understandable and honestly preferable, but it's annoying that there are still a few 1.0 tracks that aren't on the PS3 I'd really like to play, and I think the window for that is closing.

pinata242 01-14-11 05:46 PM

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Right, I hear you. I'm the king of "technically possible" here and, still, Harmonix disappoints me. You're probably right to not expect it and that sucks.

But I'm sure the content authors will happily re-do their already-released tracks in fancy new 2.0 format anyway, just like big brother. So we've all got that to look forward to ;)

Kelkee 01-14-11 09:58 PM

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Speaking of "technically possible", I don't get why they need master recordings any longer for songs. I understand why the master is desired so that each track is isolated but cant they just throw in a CD and isolate the tracks with some software?

They do it all the time on CSI ... so yeah.

Adam Tyner 01-14-11 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelkee (Post 10590592)
Speaking of "technically possible", I don't get why they need master recordings any longer for songs. I understand why the master is desired so that each track is isolated but cant they just throw in a CD and isolate the tracks with some software?

Not if they want it to sound good.

They kind of did that with a couple of the Beatles songs, although at worst, they were working with two tracks, and that was a long, laborious process to get it right. They skipped over the early recordings with only one track -- which would be a very similar scenario as a CD -- altogether.

If they could do it and do it well, I'm sure they would.

Adam Tyner 01-15-11 07:31 PM

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Apparently a Scott Pilgrim DLC pack isn't in the cards. Sob!


Originally Posted by Bryan Lee O'Malley
sorry, there were negotiations between Universal and Harmonix last year and they fell through. The songs are unlikely to make it to Rock Band or RBN.


The Beck-penned songs in particular are tricky to ever license because they belong to Beck but also Universal, etc etc etc.

pinata242 01-15-11 08:13 PM

Re: The Official Rock Band Thread of Music Game Evolution
 
What about Metric's Black Sheep? They're already on the RB3 disc with Combat Baby. That would be my #1 want off the soundtrack.

Adam Tyner 01-15-11 09:23 PM

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I'm not sure. Metric's completely independent now, and I'm pretty sure they recorded "Black Sheep" for their album "Fantasies" and just opted not to use it. I don't know if that means Metric owns it lock, stock, and barrel, or if there's some kind of arrangement with Universal since they're the first company to actually do anything with the song.

In any event, I desperately want a Metric pack.

"Black Sheep" is also the song I'd want to play the most, although "Threshold" and "Scott Pilgrim" aren't far behind.

Imprint 01-16-11 12:53 PM

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Amazon has the keyboard stand on sale for $17.99 (regularly $29.99). Even though I haven't played keyboard much, I might go ahead and get it.

LorenzoL 01-16-11 01:02 PM

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Thanks for the heads up.

Supermallet 01-16-11 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 10592034)
I'm not sure. Metric's completely independent now, and I'm pretty sure they recorded "Black Sheep" for their album "Fantasies" and just opted not to use it. I don't know if that means Metric owns it lock, stock, and barrel, or if there's some kind of arrangement with Universal since they're the first company to actually do anything with the song.

In any event, I desperately want a Metric pack.

"Black Sheep" is also the song I'd want to play the most, although "Threshold" and "Scott Pilgrim" aren't far behind.

But the version in Scott Pilgrim has vocals by Brie Larson, doesn't it? That would make that particular recording Universal's, I believe.

pinata242 01-16-11 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10592712)
But the version in Scott Pilgrim has vocals by Brie Larson, doesn't it? That would make that particular recording Universal's, I believe.

Yeah, I don't care if it's Brie's voice. The original is perfectly fine for me and my girls.

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Supermallet 01-16-11 01:17 PM

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I like the original, but I love the Brie Larson version.

pinata242 01-16-11 01:17 PM

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If I had to choose, I'd take that version too, but I'd be happy with the original if UMG is the issue.

chuckd21 01-16-11 01:25 PM

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Ordered, thanks!

Supermallet 01-16-11 01:38 PM

Re: The Official Rock Band Thread of Music Game Evolution
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 10592725)
If I had to choose, I'd take that version too, but I'd be happy with the original if UMG is the issue.

I'll happily grab any Metric they throw at us.

Adam Tyner 01-16-11 01:40 PM

Re: The Official Rock Band Thread of Music Game Evolution
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10592712)
But the version in Scott Pilgrim has vocals by Brie Larson, doesn't it?

Movie, yup. Soundtrack, no.

If "Black Sheep" makes it onto Rock Band, it sounds like it'd have to be the 100% Metric version. In a way, that's too bad because I think Brie Larson's vocals suit the song really well. Aside from the Black Sheep video that was released on iTunes (with kinda lousy quality audio), there hasn't been a separate release of the Clash at Demonhead version. You've gotta watch the movie or go through the extras.

Supermallet 01-16-11 01:48 PM

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http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4m_eOYgwArI/0.jpg
Oh yeah?


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