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Old 11-23-10 | 01:59 PM
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Re: The Official Rock Band Thread of Music Game Evolution

Originally Posted by pinata242

Did I miss the memo that our DLC is going to stop working? Are the discs going to self-destruct too?
Oh, I forget, this is the internet. When I state something I need to be crystal clear otherwise I open myself up to the misinterpretation police!

I didn't mean to imply that since Best Buy or Target is lacking hardware that all RB3 software, both disc-based and down-loadable, will immediately become non-functioning. I really was lamenting the fact that my game and DLC may not get the continuing support (in the form of more games and songs) in the future.

My apologies, Pinata. I hope this clarifies what I meant to say, both for you and the rest of the board!
Old 11-23-10 | 02:35 PM
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When was "continuing support" ever a guarantee? Where are the hard facts that say it's something we need to be more worried about than our own uncertain mortality?

I think the lamentations at this point are wildly premature at best.
Old 11-23-10 | 02:39 PM
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I don't know if this was ever discussed here, but. . .

Lego Rock Band now available on Xbox 360 Games on Demand for $19.99

I wonder if this ties into what that guy was talking about in that interview a couple months ago about wanting to make tracks available from discs that had long since disappeared from retail. . .
Old 11-23-10 | 02:40 PM
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Hmmm... I wonder if they have a magic DRM association that would allow an owner of the GoD version of LRB (or any RB title) pay the extra fee to download the track pack for RB2/RB3 use.
Old 11-23-10 | 02:48 PM
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"We at HMX don't know yet."
Old 11-23-10 | 02:51 PM
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Fixed. Don't wanna get sued!
Old 11-23-10 | 02:53 PM
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That's good lookin' out.
Old 11-23-10 | 02:55 PM
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This makes me think about being able to buy the RB engine by itself all over again.

I'd be perfectly happy to buy RB4 as a $20 download that comes with no songs. I would. All they'd have to do is release 60-80 songs as DLC simultaneously and you can pick and choose the individuals at $2 each or a full bundle for whatever and maybe even smaller packages that feature an instrument or difficulty at slight discounts.
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Re: The Official Rock Band Thread of Music Game Evolution

Originally Posted by pinata242
This makes me think about being able to buy the RB engine by itself all over again.

I'd be perfectly happy to buy RB4 as a $20 download that comes with no songs. I would. All they'd have to do is release 60-80 songs as DLC simultaneously and you can pick and choose the individuals at $2 each or a full bundle for whatever and maybe even smaller packages that feature an instrument or difficulty at slight discounts.
Stop making sense.

I had hoped that RB3 was going to be like Burnout Paradise. Modular, always updating... Build the game in chunks. There should be downloadable arenas, instruments, clothing packs, and NEW CHALLENGES ALL THE TIME BASED ON YOUR DLC.
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Re: The Official Rock Band Thread of Music Game Evolution

Originally Posted by pinata242
When was "continuing support" ever a guarantee? Where are the hard facts that say it's something we need to be more worried about than our own uncertain mortality?

I think the lamentations at this point are wildly premature at best.
You know something, Pinata? I've truly enjoyed your many posts on this board over the years. You are often entertaining, funny, and full of info.

But I'm not quite sure why you are combing through every word within my statements to either pick a fight or try to make me look lesser than what I am.

If you go back and reread what I've written, I've made sure to choose my words carefully enough to not imply hard facts. And I think I've been clear enough within my statements so that even someone that's never met me can see I'm expressing my personal feelings on the subject. I don't claim any of what I say has any empirical validity. It's simply how I feel.

That being said, I get that it's just a video game. If RB goes away tomorrow, you'll be happy to know I'll be just fine. When I contribute posts like these discussing the end of the rhythm game genre, I do it in the context of this board, nothing more than that. I won't be lamenting anything. Sorry if what I've typed comes across as too fanatical or vague for you. Rest assured, I believe I'm a pretty well-adjusted human being. I hope everyone here can say that.

Now, I think I'll go back to reading what others say and occasionally popping my head up with comments like, "Man, I'm in for that new DLC!" every Friday. That's much more fun than getting into pissing matches (real or imagined) like these.
Old 11-23-10 | 03:33 PM
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Re: The Official Rock Band Thread of Music Game Evolution

Originally Posted by pinata242
This makes me think about being able to buy the RB engine by itself all over again.

I'd be perfectly happy to buy RB4 as a $20 download that comes with no songs. I would. All they'd have to do is release 60-80 songs as DLC simultaneously and you can pick and choose the individuals at $2 each or a full bundle for whatever and maybe even smaller packages that feature an instrument or difficulty at slight discounts.
I like this idea. A lot.
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Originally Posted by pinata242
This makes me think about being able to buy the RB engine by itself all over again.

I'd be perfectly happy to buy RB4 as a $20 download that comes with no songs. I would. All they'd have to do is release 60-80 songs as DLC simultaneously and you can pick and choose the individuals at $2 each or a full bundle for whatever and maybe even smaller packages that feature an instrument or difficulty at slight discounts.
There's two ways that could be handled and both would be disasterous:

#1: the engine offers optional upgrades and all future DLC is compatible with RB3. This gives little incentive to buy RB4

#2: the engine pulls an RB3 and eliminates backwards-compatibility, you have all the ill will towards the lack of support for previous engines without the most tangible and attention-grabbing update, the new songs.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, "forcing" people to buy the same songs when the new game comes out is good for the community. There's something for everybody when it comes to RB 1/2/3 and L:RB so when it comes to the many people who have all 4 you have a pretty large library of common music to choose from when playing together. Eliminating these common songs would just fracture the community. That already happens to a point with the DLC but the disc-based content balances it out.
Old 11-23-10 | 03:42 PM
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You know something, Pinata? I've truly enjoyed your many posts on this board over the years. You are often entertaining, funny, and full of info.

But I'm not quite sure why you are combing through every word within my statements to either pick a fight or try to make me look lesser than what I am.

If you go back and reread what I've written, I've made sure to choose my words carefully enough to not imply hard facts. And I think I've been clear enough within my statements so that even someone that's never met me can see I'm expressing my personal feelings on the subject. I don't claim any of what I say has any empirical validity. It's simply how I feel.

That being said, I get that it's just a video game. If RB goes away tomorrow, you'll be happy to know I'll be just fine. When I contribute posts like these discussing the end of the rhythm game genre, I do it in the context of this board, nothing more than that. I won't be lamenting anything. Sorry if what I've typed comes across as too fanatical or vague for you. Rest assured, I believe I'm a pretty well-adjusted human being. I hope everyone here can say that.

Now, I think I'll go back to reading what others say and occasionally popping my head up with comments like, "Man, I'm in for that new DLC!" every Friday. That's much more fun than getting into pissing matches (real or imagined) like these.
You'll find that, despite what Superfro says about me, Pinata is the real asshole 'round these parts.
Old 11-23-10 | 03:57 PM
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Re: The Official Rock Band Thread of Music Game Evolution

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You'll find that, despite what Superfro says about me, Pinata is the real asshole 'round these parts.
I would never limit it to just one individual. Not by a longshot. In fact...they should start their own Facebook group or something.
Old 11-23-10 | 03:59 PM
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There's two ways that could be handled and both would be disasterous:

#1: the engine offers optional upgrades and all future DLC is compatible with RB3. This gives little incentive to buy RB4

#2: the engine pulls an RB3 and eliminates backwards-compatibility, you have all the ill will towards the lack of support for previous engines without the most tangible and attention-grabbing update, the new songs.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, "forcing" people to buy the same songs when the new game comes out is good for the community. There's something for everybody when it comes to RB 1/2/3 and L:RB so when it comes to the many people who have all 4 you have a pretty large library of common music to choose from when playing together. Eliminating these common songs would just fracture the community. That already happens to a point with the DLC but the disc-based content balances it out.
#1: There is plenty of room for improvement in RB3. Plenty. RB4 can be to RB3 what RB2 was to RB1 and that would be worth the upgrade in a year or so. Could most of that be done via title updates? Yes, probably. I'd rather them go back to the drawing board on some of the stuff, though.

#2: Here I go being a nit-picky, unfunny asshole, but you really mean forward-compatibility. RB3 is fully backward-compatible as would this imagined RB4 (that won't happen because the genre is dead anyway). I've talked about "forced obsolescence" and talked about why there's no technical reason why the old titles couldn't simply ignore what they don't understand in the new DLC. If RB4 was so dramatically different than RB3 that it would mean all new DLC wasn't usable by the old software, then I highly doubt any one of us (read: those that give a shit to discuss pie-in-the-sky hypotheticals or mourn the death of an industry with no facts) wouldn't happily upgrade anyway.

The question is whether or not Harmonix will bother to add more to the core concept of the game. I really can't see where they can go from here that would be beneficial. And if it turns into a niche market, then why bother vying for retail space and using the discs as a loss-leader by bundling many, sure-fire hits?

I have no knowledge of the inner workings of the industry. I don't really care. As long as my 360 doesn't suddenly become an HD-DVD player or Betamax, I don't care. I'll be able to play this shit for a long, long time coming.
Old 11-23-10 | 03:59 PM
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Re: The Official Rock Band Thread of Music Game Evolution

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I would never limit it to just one individual. Not by a longshot. In fact...they should start their own Facebook group or something.
If I do, you'll be a founding member. Dick.
Old 11-23-10 | 04:14 PM
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Fuck you Pinata, I'm NOT UPGRADING TO RB4!!!!!
Old 11-23-10 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shaane
You know something, Pinata? I've truly enjoyed your many posts on this board over the years. You are often entertaining, funny, and full of info.

But I'm not quite sure why you are combing through every word within my statements to either pick a fight or try to make me look lesser than what I am.

If you go back and reread what I've written, I've made sure to choose my words carefully enough to not imply hard facts. And I think I've been clear enough within my statements so that even someone that's never met me can see I'm expressing my personal feelings on the subject. I don't claim any of what I say has any empirical validity. It's simply how I feel.

That being said, I get that it's just a video game. If RB goes away tomorrow, you'll be happy to know I'll be just fine. When I contribute posts like these discussing the end of the rhythm game genre, I do it in the context of this board, nothing more than that. I won't be lamenting anything. Sorry if what I've typed comes across as too fanatical or vague for you. Rest assured, I believe I'm a pretty well-adjusted human being. I hope everyone here can say that.

Now, I think I'll go back to reading what others say and occasionally popping my head up with comments like, "Man, I'm in for that new DLC!" every Friday. That's much more fun than getting into pissing matches (real or imagined) like these.
Oh, don't take it personally. It's just conversation. None are immune when I get the itch to bitch. I've also been gone on vacation for five days so I'm catching up and want to get back into the mix.

Or, in other words, I only came to do two things: kick some ass and drink some beer. And we're almost out of beer.

Old 11-23-10 | 05:04 PM
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Re: The Official Rock Band Thread of Music Game Evolution

I've seen a couple of posts on different forums that the Wii version of the Green Day Rock Band game is being closed out for $7.48 at some Targets.
Old 11-24-10 | 08:04 AM
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I've seen a couple of posts on different forums that the Wii version of the Green Day Rock Band game is being closed out for $7.48 at some Targets.
Can confirm that. The 360 version has been seen for around 9.98 too.
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The new Lennon DLC is awesome, btw. As is that Christmas RBN track.
Old 11-24-10 | 08:23 AM
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Can confirm that. The 360 version has been seen for around 9.98 too.
...which just leaves the version I'm looking for.
Old 11-24-10 | 08:23 AM
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Can confirm that. The 360 version has been seen for around 9.98 too.
Wow, I'd love to run into that. My Target sucks for VG clearance.

Anyone be willing to pick this up for me? Will gladly pay shipping and a couple bucks for your trouble.
Old 11-24-10 | 09:14 AM
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With Thanksgiving being tomorrow and Black Friday being, well, Friday, next week’s DLC announcement is coming expectedly early. Here’s what’s on tap for next week, and it’s GREAT!

* 38 Special – “Hold On Loosely”*
* Bad Company – “Can’t Get Enough”*
* Lynyrd Skynyrd – “Saturday Night Special”*
* Lynyrd Skynyrd – “Sweet Home Alabama (Live)”*
* Lynyrd Skynyrd – “Tuesday’s Gone”
* Lynyrd Skynyrd – “What’s Your Name?”*

* Denotes Pro-Guitar/Bass chart availability

$6.99 (560 MSP) for the Lynyrd Skynyrd Pack 01.
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* 38 Special – “Hold On Loosely”*


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