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Nothing "glorified" about them.

Still, I'm in the furniture business and I have to contend with used furniture sales as something that's in stark competition to me. Why should game developers be any different?

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wow.. simple followed immediately by legal... :eek:

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But is that what this is saying? It says to me that there will be a NEW and BETTER Kinect coming out so it could actually solve both of your issues. I know for me I had to get some secondary lighting for me to have the Kinect work at I would say 80-85% efficiency. Perhaps a new one will solve a lot of the issues that many of us with less than optimal environments have for it.

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Curious, I play my X360 from bed, there's no way a Kinect would even begin to work in my case.

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Unless it's wireless and/or you can plug it in and shove it in a drawer/toss it behind the media center in the tangle of wires, it solves nothing. Even if it is wireless, if you stand in front of a projector it obscures the image.

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Get a higher ceiling for the projector ;) -ptth-

But yeah, for most people with projector setups a Kinect is probably never going to work for them.

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Short throw projector would work, but that was out of the budget range when I bought mine.

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So... when do you think Microsoft will announce the new console? Before E3?

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I would think so but in the end all that really matters is they don't allow Sony to enter the market more than 1 month before them.

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reading some reactions of the Big Sony Surprise...I'm betting that MS will pull off one far better. And at least they'll show a console and not just the controller.

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Does seeing a console mean anything to anyone? I don't interact with that at all. Controller, features, and functions, sure - but I don't care about the main unit at all.

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Seeing hardware at least lets you know its coming sooner rather than later.

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They could easily prototype a box, paint it glossy black and play a video as if it's a real working unit. I'd like to see the console too -- even though it means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Just give me specs, release dates and cost so I can give you my money.

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:shrug: A release date lets me know it's coming. Specs are out there, as is the PS4 thread ;)

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Seriously, just a 3D render mock-up would have satisfied plenty of people.

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The xbox presentation will probably be similar to the ps4 announcement: showing off a bunch of features that most people won't use. I still expect the xbox conference to be better, though. Hopefully they keep it shorter.

Both microsoft and sony are going to have struggles selling consoles, I expect.

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Disagree. I think both will sell better than the Wii U.

I do think MS is going to focus on that god-forsaken Kinect thing way too much though. I can see 5 minutes on the core power of the console and 55 minutes about integrating Kinect into your daily life --- and fuck that.

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I know reading several sites that with Sony announcing the "8 gigs of GDDR5" is a really big deal. I'm wondering if MS will counter along the same lines , up the ante in the ram or do something different to get one leg up spec wise?

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Depends on cost. The base level PS4 can't be cheaper than $499 unless they go with some kind of cell phone-esque rate plan subscription service to subsidize costs.

At $499+, they won't fly off shelves.

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Well... while we wait I'm again covered for the next 3 years.

Xbox Live
Renews on: 2/23/2016

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:up:

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I unfortunately agree. All I really am looking for from the next Xbox is better graphics, faster load times, maybe some new Xbox Live Features (Sony's livecasting/uploading to YouTube feature is really a great idea) and to use a controller for everything.

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Yep, that's all I'm looking for too. And yes, if the Kinect is the forefront of the system I'll look elsewhere. If I wanted a gaming machine for my kid I would have bought nintendo.

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Kinect has been worth it to me for the voice commands alone.

My daughter has gotten a ton of use out of the Doublefine Kinect games as well.

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Does everyone here that hates Kinect cringe when they see that "Better with Kinect" banner on those games where the features are completely optional? Just curious how far the hatred for this add on extends.