Well, I sunk a couple hours into Okami last night. Let me start off by saying I went with the Wii version because of the 16:9 and progressive over the PS2. If the game is all about the art direction and design, why not get the version that best represents what the designers were going for and get the most beautiful version, right? I figure I can deal will the average controls that reviewers have bequeathed on the Wii version.

Well a couple hours in and I love the game. I knew nothing of the game other than it had a wolf, you paint, the game is beautiful, plays like Zelda and it got heaps of praise. I'd never even really seen a screenshot. I can't wait to play more.

I was hoping the reviewers were wrong on the controls, but sadly I was mistaken. They are very hit or miss. Painting seems to be okay, it is the attack/slice that is very uneven. Just when I think I've got it down, it doesn't work. I think it has to do with depth of your stroke though(i.e. how close you are to the screen). If I pulled back before I sliced, I got a real thin slice which worked well, but then it didn't. Very weird. It took me about 10 minutes to slice down the fruit/village at the very beginning, frustrating, but that's when I realized there was depth to the brush stroke. Oh, well, not bad enough to kill the game yet.

Interesting. Please name the numerous Nintendo developed games not named Link to the Past or Metroid Prime 2 that had this particular feature that would indicate "they proceeded to run it as far into the ground as possible."

I still need to break in to my copy of Okami. I've been too busy with Kart and Brawl though.

I know I have noticed it in several games after Link to the Past. It was the reason I refused to play MP2 after trying the demo and it was my least favorite part of Twilight Princess. I know Nintendo has used variations of it before. Super Paper Mario for instance has a variation of it. Maybe any other games I am thinking of where it is used are from other developers. Lunar Knights and Ikuruga are essentially light and dark world games when you get down to the basics of their gameplay.

I have never played it, but didn't Majora's Mask for the N64 have light/dark worlds?

Was Castlevania II: Simon's Quest on the NES one of the first major releases to use the light/dark world concept?

Yeah Castlavania II was kind of the first one I can remember to do something like this. Pixie is making the point that Nintendo didn't run the concept into the ground or overuse it and the more I think of it they really didn't. I think they probably did it so well in Link to the Past that anytime I saw any kind of variation of it again no matter how minor I thought back to that game.

That said I really never want to see it used again especially the annoying way it was used in MP2.

A day/night cycle is totally different than the parallel world concept.

But when you're nitpicking to that level, it's probably all the same.

Just dropped another hour into it on my lunch break. Man it is an awesome game. I think I may have figured out the attack/slash.

I'm taking a break from Kart, GTA & Boom Blox myself.

No.

CVII didn't use it.

Right, in CVII didn't the enimies get stronger at night? Also, I think some characters only came out at night. But, please, no world dark worlds where you energy is constantly draining and you have to wait in patches of light for your energy to recover enough to explore.

Day/Night cylces != Light/Dark parallel worlds.

well, believe it or not, this didn't work. I guess I'll try to get a wireless/wired modem from my Comcast (if they offer them). I think the problem of setting it up will still exist though. Brother just wants to play Mario Kart online. You'd think if xbox360 has plug-n-play internet that Nintendo would have something. Shit.

Sorry, I don't get how the picture relates to the post at all, but the juxtaposition makes me laugh.

Seriously, man, take that LAN adapter back. If you can't get a modem with a wireless router built in from Comcast, just get a cheap-o router. You don't even have to have a computer to configure it, but it would be open to everyone to hop onto if you care about that sort of thing (something tells me you don't )

Nintendo specifically states that many DSL modems are NOT compatible with a WiiLAN setup. They recommend you use a router if using a DSL modem.

yeah, the problem is that I've never set up a router. I think I can borrow a laptop to set up one and return the lan thing. what is recommended for the WiiLAN setup then? anyone recommend one that I have a shot at getting to work? folks, the quicker I'm up and running, the sooner I'll stop posting all these questions.

http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/200...-sales-record/

Chris

It is impressive, but obviously skewed by Wii Play.

not skewed a whole lot (6 million or so Wii play)...I think the biggest factor is the number of consoles sold, ~11 million in 18 months. Take out Wii Play and the attach ratio is 4:1 (4.5:1 with it)

Figuring the PS3 has sold ~ 5 million, the attach ratio is also 4:1.

At this time last year, the 360 sold ~ 6 million, the attach ratio was 5:1

(The PS2 sold ~10 million at 18 months, ratio of 4.2:1, Xbox ~5.8 million, ratio 4.8:1)

*Numbers taken from VGChartz

That can't be. We have been told that the Wii attach rate is atrocious, and people don't play anything but Wii Sports, and that only for a month.

I know! It is almost like the people telling us this don't really know what they are talking about.

alright, I broke down and am buying a computer (now my job will want me to work from home on weekends). anyway, it's being built so I should be up and running in a week or two. I guess I'll still have to get a router since I don't think the machine I am having built has wireless card....although I could just install that myself.

I picked up a Wii last week: how critical is it to get an SD card? How big are the older games you can download (like Sonic)?

You don't need an SD card at all. You can't put VC games on it. The only thing you can use it for right now is custom soundtracks (Excite Truck, Endless Ocean, etc)

Thanks.

Chew, do you realize you have: What PS3 Game I'm Playing: Super Mario Galaxy in you sig?