What is your TV model number?

Whoa, you know.. my girlfriend mentioned my TV doing some strange flashing and pulsing when she watched Planet Earth last week (on Blu-Ray) and I nearly peed my pants in fear but nothing of it was seen after that and now that I see your post about it.. *relief*

Samsung 56" DLP, i don't remember the model number on top of my head and i'm not home at the moment... however, it's more than three years old... the max it can do is 1080i. No HDMI ports, but an DVI port (which i use an DVI to HDMI cable connecting to the Onkyo's HDMI out).

Just on the edge of the screen though... again, in the "boxed in" version, i.e. connected via 720P. The flashy edge is more noticeable in the Poles disc (the white snow). Actually, that's the only disc i have watched 20 minutes so far (shame i know).

You probably have one of the 720p models then. It will take in a 1080i signal, but it downconverts it to 720p.

Most likely it does.. fine by me, since i can't tell the difference from i'm sitting anyway. Again, when i use 720P, i get a boxed in pictures (it's like a 42-46" inch display rather than 56").

Set it to 720p, which is what you it should want it set to, then bypass your receiver and go straight to the TV, and see if it still framed wrong. You've got a configuration issue somewhere. Doing this will narrow it down to either your TV/360 or your receiver.

I think you're right. The aspect ratio should be the same whether you're using 720p or 1080i. You have a scaling issue occuring somewhere in your setup.

ding ding, sounds like you guys on the right track... that's what i was told, the aspect ratio should be the same whether you're using 720p or 1080i.

yeap, i will connect the X360 directly to the TV via DVI/HDMI cable and see what happens... chances are it could very well be the fix to the problem. however, doing so gives me another problem, i got no more DVI/HDMI ports to the TV

well, like i said, at this point, i'm more interested to what's going on than getting the receiver to work with my X360 via HDMI...

Honestly, i'm very happy with the Optical work around... just that Pinata's suggestion is better (free and i don't have to wait for my order to arrive), but a bit too late.

Well, you'll still need an optical cable to hook it up.

I hear the HDMI switcher at Monoprice is a pretty good one for a good price. I don't have first hand experience with it to say one way or another.

Funny you should say that because that's where I was going to grab him a link

http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...09&cp_id=10110

I can't personally vouch for these either but I have heard good things about the powered units.

I bought a Monoprice HDMI switcher a week before my TV crapped out - still have it sitting around collecting dust (don't need it, as my new TV has 4 HDMI inputs). But it worked very well for the little time I had it in use.

doh, you're right... the X360 doesn't have the option to have the sound go through the HDMI and video go through component. Errr, so what's the point cracking up the component cable again? I was a bit excited when you told me this, now, come to think of it, i don't know why

I don't know your needs. To be honest, I didn't read any of the posts due to all the anger.

My suggestion is if you want DD5.1 via optical and 1080p via HDMI simultaneously. I don't have an HDMI receiver to carry the audio along with the video on HDMI so that's what I did.

Oh i see... that's a different situation, indeed a fairly unique one since the HDMI cable carries the digital audio, so it's a bit queer to have the optical cable carry the digital audio "again."

Forget about the hate, i'm way over it. and if any of you still upset, i apologize again.

thanks all for the help and i'll post my finding tomorrow, chances are there will be another "how come?" I won't post my question now, since it's base on my assumption and i don't wanna go berserk on assumptions.

What is your PS3 set to, 1080i or 1080p? Either way, you should set your PS3, 360 and, receiver to be the native resolution of your TV which is 720p. That way you shouldn't have any scaling issues. Then make sure your TV is set to "normal" mode or equivalent.

IMO no receiver should be scaling anything. It should just be a straight pass-through for video switching/stripping when necessary.

Check your manual for how to set that up. I think I saw a quote in a sig here recently that seems appropriate for this situation:

OKAY! i think i got the mystery solved...

I agree with Pinata, the receiver should not scale anything, it just takes the input and then output it the way it takes in. I took Jeremy517's suggestion, i.e. hook up the X360 to the TV directly using the HDMI. Guess what? The X360 doesn't like my TV's 1920x1080 setting (i select it and the X360 says "not supported display mode"). That's why the 1080 setting was grayed out when connecting through the receiver, because the X360 doesn't support it!

Oh, my TV is Samsung HLN567W. The reason why the PS3 can do it b/c it recognizes the TV's 1920x1080 resolution. My guess is that Samsung and Sony products work better together than Samsung and MS?

I'm no electronic guru and i believe this will be the end of my "research," i'm happy with my finding and thanks for the help!

Of course, as to why the 1080i works via component for the X360 is still a little unclear, but i'm guessing that for component either there's another 1080 resolution which recognized by the X360 or some scaling was done by the TV (which is absent in the DVI mode).

The quote really came back to haunt you, doesn't it?


Seriously, that's something i take for granted, and obviously some brands of product work together better than other brands. For that reason, that's why i went with the Sony HD camcorder, knowing that i can transfer the files effortlessly using the PS3.

Oh, in my defense... i bought the Samsung TV way before HDMIs, so naturally, it's not exactly "equipped" to be used with devices with HDMI ports. And, shamelessly to say, at the time of purchase i had ZERO idea about 720Ps and 1080Ps (i picked the TV b/c it was big enough for the living room, got good reviews and price was okay, $3K including the stand). However, as you can see, the TV actually is "future" proof Hey, i'm gaming in HD, movies in HD, home videos in HD, can't complaint...

Of course, people say that DLP got bulb issues, well, got no problem here for at least three years now And no need to have fingers crossed (if the bulbs go out, time to buy another TV ).

Your TV doesn't have a 1920x1080 setting. It is 1280x720. It will downconvert 1920x1080 to 1280x720. It is your TV that doesn't support that resolution, not the XBox. The XBox definitely supports that resolution (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x...defdetails.htm)

When connected via HDMI, the 360 can query your TV for supported resolutions. When using component, it can't. When using component, your TV takes the input but downscales it to 1280x720.

Ocelot, your TV, Samsung HLN567W is only a 720P tv. Why would you want to feed it anything other than it's native resolution?

Because his reciever was doing some dumb shit, and he thought it was the 360s fault. The solution is of course to cut said dumb shit reciever out of the loop. Always use your native resolution people. For older CRT based sets it's usually 1080i and for anything DLP/LCD based that is NOT 1080p, you want to select 720p.

The HLN567W revelation is, I think, my favorite since joshd2012's "I listen to the sound through my TV speakers" revelation .

Hmmm, i don't know what to say... on one hand, i'm happy with my finding, on the other hand, i don't wanna "debate" with the gurus (Jeremy517 and kakihara1).

However, if i can post some pictures, will that help? I'm looking at the TV manual, page 80, clearly stated 1920x1080i in the DTV row (the table) and on page 85, Aspect Supported settings, 1920x1080i, Wide (TV).

Lastly, i hate to bring this up, but when i do the same thing using the PS3, i was able to choose the 1080i setting using HDMI (both directly to the TV or through the receiver). So, how do you explain that?