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Old 07-31-07 | 06:53 PM
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I don't know about that... It's already been announced (earlier in this thread) that PGR4 is somewhat "crippled" due to lack of space on the DVD format. I think current 360 games could use the space of the HD-DVD format for sure.
I thought i had been keeping up with this thread but must have missed the post that discussed this. Could you point it out to me? I hadn't heard anything about that.
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Old 07-31-07 | 07:07 PM
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I own the HD-DVD add-on, but I think you should seriously consider getting the Toshiba HD-A2 instead. Reasons: 1) Much better audio, 2) you still get the 5-free movies, 3) you won't have to have the incredibly loud 360 on at all times (this really bothers me, but maybe you'd be fine with it). The A2 is $240 at Amazon.

I certainly wish I could swap my add-on and $60 for the A2... Unfortunately I bought the add-on way before the standalone HD-DVD players were so cheap.






Call me hard headed, but even though I am receiving alot of negatives from you guys, I am still tempted to take advantage of this offer

MBS.....Can I ask you something? I was reading some customer reviews on amazon.com and one guy posted a pros/cons list at the end of his review:

Pros:
* Cheapest HD-DVD solution if you have an XBox 360
* Easy to setup
* Accepts IR from your universal remote via the Xbox
* Great picture quality
* Includes Microsoft Remote and free King-Kong HD-DVD
* UPDATE: HDMI Output (with Xbox 360 Elite Only)

Cons:
* Only outputs 1080i via Component (VGA required for 1080p)
* VGA output has limitations, both due to Xbox and/or your TV
* Can't take advantage of HD-DVD improved audio quality formats



See that last "con", about the lack of improved audio support? Can you comment on that further? I don't fully understand what that means, does it mean for instance it does not support audio like DTS and stuff like that, or does it mean something different? Thank you
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Old 07-31-07 | 07:13 PM
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The HD era has also brought HD audio. Basically, uncompressed surround sound that should sound WAY better than what we're used to. Thing is if you've never heard of it then chances are you don't have a receiver capable of outputting this format anyways.

Halo 3 with 4 player co-op online is great news. I like Halo, but not so much that I was wetting my pants to play it. Well, I need to change now.
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Old 07-31-07 | 07:33 PM
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The HD era has also brought HD audio. Basically, uncompressed surround sound that should sound WAY better than what we're used to. Thing is if you've never heard of it then chances are you don't have a receiver capable of outputting this format anyways.

Halo 3 with 4 player co-op online is great news. I like Halo, but not so much that I was wetting my pants to play it. Well, I need to change now.






Thx for the explaination on HD audio


As far as halo goes, the CO OP thing is HUGE...
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Old 07-31-07 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by xmiyux
I thought i had been keeping up with this thread but must have missed the post that discussed this. Could you point it out to me? I hadn't heard anything about that.
Here is the Joystiq link: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/30/bi...d-constraints/

Here is the relevant portion:
"You won't see different times of day per city because this involves recreating all the textures again (one for day and one for night). Whilst this wasn't a problem for our dev team, it was a problem fitting all this data onto a single DVD."
They go on to say that certain scenes will look odd and yellow-y, due to the constraints.

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Old 07-31-07 | 07:40 PM
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4 player co-op on Live for Halo 3 is a great addition as long as it isn't as near impossible to find a good co-op game as GoW has been .
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Old 07-31-07 | 07:50 PM
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Well, I've never played Halo, and while I have a Gold Live subscription, I've never bought any points. Am I going to want Halo 3? I've downloaded plenty of Arcade demos, just never felt like buying them, but I'm sure there are a few things I could d/l with the points.
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Old 07-31-07 | 08:08 PM
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I've got the HD add-on for the 360 and I love it. I've had it since Christmas. Now that it's cheaper than a stand alone player plus the free movies sounds like a no brainer to me. I'll upgrade to a dual HD format player when those prices come down. But for now I'm happy.
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Old 07-31-07 | 08:15 PM
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Picked up my 3 1600 point cards for $16.21 today.
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Old 07-31-07 | 10:18 PM
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Call me hard headed, but even though I am receiving alot of negatives from you guys, I am still tempted to take advantage of this offer
For $60 more you can get a standalone at Circuit City and not have the worries of being tied to the console. Nor would you have the crippled HDMI. Maybe it's just me but $60 is nothing. The price of one game. I'd take that route.
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Old 08-01-07 | 01:14 AM
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I did that last night. But instead of going with the family angle, I just said I wanted to be able to play the games I had paid for when offline (which is true, in my case). They know the problem and they will offer you the points without any trouble at all.

One thing to add... they wouldn't "reimburse" me for games I had codes for (like Bankshot Billiards from the 1-year Gold package), only for games which I had paid MS points for.
Did you have to detail everything you spent points on? Because I've bought 40-some XBLA games, plus a bunch of other content.

Did they give you the points right away?
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Old 08-01-07 | 04:30 AM
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Caught this at cag.com, but as of now the HD-DVD add on is $149 at bb.com:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1158321865239

Price mistake? possibly. Considering today is the beginning of the 5free offer for the add on, best to take advantage while you can.
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Old 08-01-07 | 04:50 AM
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Caught this at cag.com, but as of now the HD-DVD add on is $149 at bb.com:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1158321865239

Price mistake? possibly. Considering today is the beginning of the 5free offer for the add on, best to take advantage while you can.






Leave it to a fellow New Yorker to come through for me


This is so cool is so many ways....I was planning on buying it at best buy anyways, whether its the B & M or .com makes no difference, and its because I have $70.00 in gift cards to best buy. Thanks Amped!
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Old 08-01-07 | 05:31 AM
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Picked up my 3 1600 point cards for $16.21 today.
damn, I always miss out on deals like this.
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Old 08-01-07 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by amped
Caught this at cag.com, but as of now the HD-DVD add on is $149 at bb.com:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1158321865239

Price mistake? possibly. Considering today is the beginning of the 5free offer for the add on, best to take advantage while you can.
Now that's tempting. I think I'm going to hold off and put that $150 towards a PS3 though. I think Sony is getting their way with this format war, unfortunately.
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Old 08-01-07 | 08:00 AM
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Picked up my 3 1600 point cards for $16.21 today.
When you do in-store pick-up, can they see what you actually paid for the cards, and deny you them claiming it was a pricing error?
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Old 08-01-07 | 08:14 AM
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When you do in-store pick-up, can they see what you actually paid for the cards, and deny you them claiming it was a pricing error?
At that point you've already paid for them so I'd say no. Plus, I doubt someone at customer service would have any idea about what's going on.
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Old 08-01-07 | 09:07 AM
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For $60 more you can get a standalone at Circuit City and not have the worries of being tied to the console. Nor would you have the crippled HDMI. Maybe it's just me but $60 is nothing. The price of one game. I'd take that route.
Though the A2 doesn't support 1080p video output, since we've all found out how incredibly vital that is!
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Complaint: Why the hell do I need to create and sign in to new accounts just to play local multi-player?! And then, when I do, those players do not have access to stuff that I've unlock in the game (ie: costumes in Bomberman). This is really a retarded way to do things.
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Old 08-01-07 | 10:21 AM
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Did you have to detail everything you spent points on? Because I've bought 40-some XBLA games, plus a bunch of other content.

Did they give you the points right away?
No, they have a listing of all the games I had bought. They wouldn't give me points for codes I had redeemed, as I mentioned, but every point I had spent in the marketplace was returned to my account.

I don't have the points yet, they said it would be 5-10 days to credit. Something about needing a requisition to go through.
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Old 08-01-07 | 10:37 AM
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Call me hard headed, but even though I am receiving alot of negatives from you guys, I am still tempted to take advantage of this offer

MBS.....Can I ask you something? I was reading some customer reviews on amazon.com and one guy posted a pros/cons list at the end of his review:

Pros:
* Cheapest HD-DVD solution if you have an XBox 360
* Easy to setup
* Accepts IR from your universal remote via the Xbox
* Great picture quality
* Includes Microsoft Remote and free King-Kong HD-DVD
* UPDATE: HDMI Output (with Xbox 360 Elite Only)

Cons:
* Only outputs 1080i via Component (VGA required for 1080p)
* VGA output has limitations, both due to Xbox and/or your TV
* Can't take advantage of HD-DVD improved audio quality formats



See that last "con", about the lack of improved audio support? Can you comment on that further? I don't fully understand what that means, does it mean for instance it does not support audio like DTS and stuff like that, or does it mean something different? Thank you
i would be leery of picking up a HD-DVD player.
From what i've been reading BlueRay is the way to go and seems to be winning the war.
HD-DVD might not have much life left. This is just MHO.
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Old 08-01-07 | 10:37 AM
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Complaint: Why the hell do I need to create and sign in to new accounts just to play local multi-player?! And then, when I do, those players do not have access to stuff that I've unlock in the game (ie: costumes in Bomberman). This is really a retarded way to do things.
I hate that too. Although I don't remember having any issues with the Bomberman costumes on the second account.
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Old 08-01-07 | 10:44 AM
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seems like a good deal regardless, but I think I'll just put the 150 towards a PS3, assuming I get one day (and plan to keep it)
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Old 08-01-07 | 11:05 AM
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I hate that too. Although I don't remember having any issues with the Bomberman costumes on the second account.
The second player only had access to the default costumes (normal, ballerina, cowboy, I think) when we played.
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Old 08-01-07 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket
The second player only had access to the default costumes (normal, ballerina, cowboy, I think) when we played.
I don't think that's right. I'm going to have to double check later.
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