Official PS3 thread - Part 3
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I just got a call from EB. The girl said that their allocation was cut, but since I was the first one in line I would get a system at launch. She offered the free used game/dvd to drop to the second shipment, but I told her I'd much rather have one at launch.
#127
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Originally Posted by dvd182
I just got a call from EB. The girl said that their allocation was cut, but since I was the first one in line I would get a system at launch. She offered the free used game/dvd to drop to the second shipment, but I told her I'd much rather have one at launch.
#128
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Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
I just need 2 people to take pity on me and wait for the 2nd shipment


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just wanted to chime in... played the PS3 at Target today. I played some sort of Motor sports game and NBA 07... couldnt believe the graphics. Just crazy.
Anyway, i myself am getting a Wii... cant shell out the money just yet for the PS3... but you guys are all in for a treat (obviously).
-NiCK
Anyway, i myself am getting a Wii... cant shell out the money just yet for the PS3... but you guys are all in for a treat (obviously).
-NiCK
#131
I saw NBA 07 at Target, but I thought the graphics looked weird. I'm not saying the PS3 won't provide graphically, but these people looked very very plastic-y. I don't know, I just wasn't feeling it. Also while waiting to play Motostorm it seemed to take longer to load than I had expected.
#132
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ok, this whole "going to get a PS3 no matter what" stuff is hitting new lows. I was out earlier picking up some subs for dinner and I overheard a few guys planning on staking out some stores starting tonight to watch for the PS3 shipments to arrive. the plan is to steal them off the truck to sell on ebay. then one of the guys said if that doesn't work he's going to pretend he's handicapped to try to cut in line or whatever. I guess he secured some crutches or a wheelchair or something. he said he should be able to walk right up to the front because who's going to want to fight a handicapped person.
are people really this desperate to make some quick money?
are people really this desperate to make some quick money?
#133
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Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
ok, this whole "going to get a PS3 no matter what" stuff is hitting new lows. I was out earlier picking up some subs for dinner and I overheard a few guys planning on staking out some stores starting tonight to watch for the PS3 shipments to arrive. the plan is to steal them off the truck to sell on ebay. then one of the guys said if that doesn't work he's going to pretend he's handicapped to try to cut in line or whatever. I guess he secured some crutches or a wheelchair or something. he said he should be able to walk right up to the front because who's going to want to fight a handicapped person.
are people really this desperate to make some quick money?
are people really this desperate to make some quick money?
Originally Posted by Draven
You know, if I had gotten in a pre-order for $100 and Gamestop called to tell me that that I would not get a system at launch, I'd be heading down to get my $100 back.
Originally Posted by Draven
I cannot fathom the point of a pre-order that does not guarantee a system. I know this isn't new, but I still cannot wrap my brain around it.
Last edited by Supermallet; 11-13-06 at 09:47 PM.
#134
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I got to play a PS3 last night at Best Buy. First of all that controller is LIGHT! But I liked the trigger L2/R2 buttons (welcome to 1999 Sony). I still hope they release a PS2 adapter for these.. I'm so sick of having to swap out the shitty Logitech controller every time one of the buttons wears out. Well, all they had was basketball and it took like three minutes to actually get to the demo.. I don't think that was bad load time.. just fifty freaking logos to sit through. So um.. basketball.. I've got nothing.
#135
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Well, all they had was basketball and it took like three minutes to actually get to the demo.. I don't think that was bad load time..
#136
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Here's what 1up is saying about the launch lineup:
The Real PlayStation 3 Launch Lineup
Where'd all the launch games go?
by Luke Smith, 11/10/2006
Games that we once expected to see on the PlayStation 3 at launch have started to disappear. One has been canceled (so long NBA Live 07), some delayed, but just a week away from the PlayStation 3's launch the software lineup continues to shuffle. Here's what's left and what's been shelved.
Resistance: Fall of Man
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
Genji: Days of the Blade
NBA 07
Sonic the Hedgehog -- Delayed off of launch list.
Call of Duty 3
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion -- Delayed to Q1 2007.
F.E.A.R. -- Delayed off of launch list.
Ridge Racer 7
Fight Night Round 3
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WW II -- Delayed until December.
Full Auto 2: Battlelines -- Delayed until early December.
Madden NFL 2007
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
NBA 2k7
Need for Speed: Carbon
NHL 2k7
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas -- Delayed until December.
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Where'd all the launch games go?
by Luke Smith, 11/10/2006
Games that we once expected to see on the PlayStation 3 at launch have started to disappear. One has been canceled (so long NBA Live 07), some delayed, but just a week away from the PlayStation 3's launch the software lineup continues to shuffle. Here's what's left and what's been shelved.
Resistance: Fall of Man
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
Genji: Days of the Blade
NBA 07
Sonic the Hedgehog -- Delayed off of launch list.
Call of Duty 3
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion -- Delayed to Q1 2007.
F.E.A.R. -- Delayed off of launch list.
Ridge Racer 7
Fight Night Round 3
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WW II -- Delayed until December.
Full Auto 2: Battlelines -- Delayed until early December.
Madden NFL 2007
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
NBA 2k7
Need for Speed: Carbon
NHL 2k7
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas -- Delayed until December.
Tony Hawk's Project 8
#137
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
And that's entirely your choice. Gamestop doesn't hold people's money against their will.
Well, when Sony tells Gamestop "You're getting X amount of systems" and then the week of the launch they say "You're actually getting 40% less than that," whose fault do you think it is? I wouldn't say Gamestop's.
1) Gamestop has always said that a pre-order does not guarantee a system/game/whatever. That is the process I don't understand. They had the same problem with the 360.
2) I don't really care about what's going on between Sony and Gamestop. These two businesses need to figure this out between them, not yank the consumer around. If Gamestop is going to institute a $100 pre-order system throughout their stores, they better be DAMN sure they are going to get enough consoles to cover it. If there is any chance that won't happen, they shouldn't have rolled out the system. It sucks that Sony cut the shipments (but honestly, none of us seem too shocked by the news - how come Gamestop was so surprised?) but Gamestop apparently had no problems rolling out pre-orders and taking people's money.
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I can kind of see your point, considering they are taking 1,000s of pre-orders, collecting interest on that money, and saying "Oh, whoops, sorry. No system for you" and only returning your 100.00
#139
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Originally Posted by Draven
2) I don't really care about what's going on between Sony and Gamestop. These two businesses need to figure this out between them, not yank the consumer around.
#140
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Originally Posted by ChrisHicks
ok, this whole "going to get a PS3 no matter what" stuff is hitting new lows. I was out earlier picking up some subs for dinner and I overheard a few guys planning on staking out some stores starting tonight to watch for the PS3 shipments to arrive. the plan is to steal them off the truck to sell on ebay.
then one of the guys said if that doesn't work he's going to pretend he's handicapped to try to cut in line or whatever. I guess he secured some crutches or a wheelchair or something. he said he should be able to walk right up to the front because who's going to want to fight a handicapped person.
#141
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Exactly. Shuffle the numbers around if need be. They have thousands of customers that already put down money on the system. Shaft the K-marts & mom & pop stores of the world if you have to, guarantee them a higher quantity the next shipment. Then by the third shipment everything is peachy.
Exactly. I fault Sony for not doing that. If you tell the gamestores they will get a set amount, knowing they will take money from customers for that number of systems, you need to follow through on your word and make sure that they get that number of systems by pulling from other stores allotments if need be.
I hope those that got shafted that actually wanted the system to play just buy a 360 or Wii and pass on the PS3. But the majority are probably eBay hoarders anyway so its a moot point.
#142
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Uhhh ohhh
http://www.playfuls.com/news_05169_P...PS2_Games.html
Chris
PlayStation 3 Has Compatibility Problems with PS2 Games
05:48 PM, November 14th 2006
by News Staff
Shortly after the Japanese launch of its next-generation console, Sony already faces the first problems. Fortunately enough, these are not hardware deficiencies. They are compatibility problems with the games created for PlayStation 2. The Japanese company admitted today that there are indeed games that do not function properly on PlayStation 3.
Sony officials have not specified the number of games that do not work nor have they specified which games are incompatible, but according to information published by Sankei, Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo are among them. Sankei also estimates the number of affected games at about 200.
The compatibility issue affects graphics in some of the games and causes audio difficulties in others.
Sony has stated that it will try to remedy these problems by posting upgrades online, but company officials have refused to specify the number or titles of the problem-games, BBC News informs.
Problems surfacing immediately after a launch are not something new in the world of consoles. Last year, after Microsoft launched Xbox 360, there were numerous complaints from customers relating to the overheating of the source, which led to dysfunctions.
Sony has always said that PlayStation 3 will be perfectly compatible with PS 2 titles, PS 2 being the market leader right now. As a matter of fact, compatibility was one of the aces Sony hoped to win the console war with, which has reached a new level with this latest launch in Japan.
PlayStation 3, which at this moment has already claimed the title of most technically advanced console, should have been launched in March 2006. Sony was forced to postpone the event to November 2006, promising a simultaneous launch in Japan, the US and Europe as a compensation. Technical problems regarding the Blu-Ray units unfortunately caused another change of plan and Sony had to limit itself to Japan and the US, rescheduling the European launch for March 2007.
Sony also had to reduce the number of units it intended to deliver along with the introduction of PS 3, cutting down the number to 100,000 units for Japan and 400,000 for the US.
And all these incidents would be acceptable had Sony not entangled itself in a life and death battle with Microsoft and Nintendo. Microsoft launched Xbox 360 last year and has had reasonable results so far. Nevertheless, it hasn’t had significant sales in Japan, a market considered to be loyal to PlayStation, customers choosing to wait for PlayStation 3.
One reason the Japanese are interested in PS 3 is precisely its compatibility with PS 2 games.
In fact, Sony should speed up the process of solving the compatibility problems as US citizens will be introduced to PlayStation 3 very soon, on the 17th of November.
Nintendo will launch its Nintendo Wii console in the United States on November 19th, and the company hopes to deliver as many as 4 million units by the end of the year.
Unlike Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii is the least advanced as far as technology is concerned, but also the cheapest. The price announced for a Nintendo Wii is $250. Besides its price, the other argument Nintendo hopes to seduce customers with is the new controller, designed to resemble a remote-control.
The pre-order campaign that GameStop started last month for Nintendo and PlayStation 3 ended the very day it had begun. Therefore Sony has no reasons to worry yet, because the 400,000 consoles that it will deliver to the US have certainly been bought already. What will happen until the end of the year remains to be seen.
05:48 PM, November 14th 2006
by News Staff
Shortly after the Japanese launch of its next-generation console, Sony already faces the first problems. Fortunately enough, these are not hardware deficiencies. They are compatibility problems with the games created for PlayStation 2. The Japanese company admitted today that there are indeed games that do not function properly on PlayStation 3.
Sony officials have not specified the number of games that do not work nor have they specified which games are incompatible, but according to information published by Sankei, Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo are among them. Sankei also estimates the number of affected games at about 200.
The compatibility issue affects graphics in some of the games and causes audio difficulties in others.
Sony has stated that it will try to remedy these problems by posting upgrades online, but company officials have refused to specify the number or titles of the problem-games, BBC News informs.
Problems surfacing immediately after a launch are not something new in the world of consoles. Last year, after Microsoft launched Xbox 360, there were numerous complaints from customers relating to the overheating of the source, which led to dysfunctions.
Sony has always said that PlayStation 3 will be perfectly compatible with PS 2 titles, PS 2 being the market leader right now. As a matter of fact, compatibility was one of the aces Sony hoped to win the console war with, which has reached a new level with this latest launch in Japan.
PlayStation 3, which at this moment has already claimed the title of most technically advanced console, should have been launched in March 2006. Sony was forced to postpone the event to November 2006, promising a simultaneous launch in Japan, the US and Europe as a compensation. Technical problems regarding the Blu-Ray units unfortunately caused another change of plan and Sony had to limit itself to Japan and the US, rescheduling the European launch for March 2007.
Sony also had to reduce the number of units it intended to deliver along with the introduction of PS 3, cutting down the number to 100,000 units for Japan and 400,000 for the US.
And all these incidents would be acceptable had Sony not entangled itself in a life and death battle with Microsoft and Nintendo. Microsoft launched Xbox 360 last year and has had reasonable results so far. Nevertheless, it hasn’t had significant sales in Japan, a market considered to be loyal to PlayStation, customers choosing to wait for PlayStation 3.
One reason the Japanese are interested in PS 3 is precisely its compatibility with PS 2 games.
In fact, Sony should speed up the process of solving the compatibility problems as US citizens will be introduced to PlayStation 3 very soon, on the 17th of November.
Nintendo will launch its Nintendo Wii console in the United States on November 19th, and the company hopes to deliver as many as 4 million units by the end of the year.
Unlike Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii is the least advanced as far as technology is concerned, but also the cheapest. The price announced for a Nintendo Wii is $250. Besides its price, the other argument Nintendo hopes to seduce customers with is the new controller, designed to resemble a remote-control.
The pre-order campaign that GameStop started last month for Nintendo and PlayStation 3 ended the very day it had begun. Therefore Sony has no reasons to worry yet, because the 400,000 consoles that it will deliver to the US have certainly been bought already. What will happen until the end of the year remains to be seen.
Chris
#144
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Originally Posted by KurrptSenate
I can kind of see your point, considering they are taking 1,000s of pre-orders, collecting interest on that money, and saying "Oh, whoops, sorry. No system for you" and only returning your 100.00
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I just spoke to GS and they confirmed that I will get a unit on Friday morning. The guy said that they would like me to come in and pay for it before hand. He had some long excuse about that, but said that if I wanted to pay for it on Friday that was okay. What is that all about?
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I stopped by Super Target in Mishawaka, IN today and was able to get the number of PS3 consoles they are getting.
Super Target (Mishawaka, IN) on launch day will have 8 - $599 PS3 and 4 - $499 PS3. The launch will be first come first serve. Target will be handing out tickets at either 5:00 am or 7:00 am depending on who I talked to. Once you have the ticket you can leave and come back to pick up your PS3 when they open.
Hope this helps anyone who lives in the area.
Super Target (Mishawaka, IN) on launch day will have 8 - $599 PS3 and 4 - $499 PS3. The launch will be first come first serve. Target will be handing out tickets at either 5:00 am or 7:00 am depending on who I talked to. Once you have the ticket you can leave and come back to pick up your PS3 when they open.
Hope this helps anyone who lives in the area.
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Huge Decrease of launch consoles for U.S.?
Analyst: 'Battle Royale' To See 150-200k PS3s For Launch?
In his latest interactive entertainment notes, Lazard Capital Markets' Colin Sebastian has made his predictions on the 'battle royale' set to take place this week as the Wii and PS3 see their official US lanches.
Says Sebastian, "This week represents a significant milestone in the interactive entertainment universe," though, he hastens to add, "the significance of the launches for the software publishers is largely symbolic, as the new consoles will not likely be meaningful drivers of software sales until later next year when we expect the installed bases of the PS3 and Wii to reach more critical mass."
Still, "excitement surrounding the hardware launches backed by significant marketing budgets from Microsoft (Xbox 360), Sony (PS3 and PSP) and Nintendo (Wii and DS) – should benefit overall industry trends through the holiday."
On retailers' struggles to secure and supply a continuous flow of hardware, Sebastian adds that Lazard continues to expect shortages for most stores: "Our channel checks with retailers indicate that there is strong interest in both the PS3 and Wii; most stores sold out of pre-orders quickly."
"We expect Sony to deliver 150-200k units to stores in the United States for the launch; consumers without pre-orders may find it difficult to locate an available system. We estimate sales of approximately 750k PS3s domestically by year-end. We expect a more robust launch from Nintendo, with at least 1.2 million units sold in the U.S. and up to four million units shipped worldwide by year-end."
"Due to the limited initial installed base of the platforms, we believe the financial impact over the holiday period will be more significant for hardware manufacturers and video game retailers (such as GameStop) than for software publishers."
In addition to predicting a strong push for Xbox 360 products due to a shortage in PS3 supply, Sebastian also says the newly launched consoles may not have as significant an impact on holiday sales.
He adds: "We expect less than 15% of software sales to come from the PS3 and Wii this holiday; the more numerous Xbox 360, PS2 and handheld platforms (DS and PSP) remain key drivers of growth," though, he predicts, "this fifth major platform transition is likely to be the largest product launch in the industry’s history."
In his latest interactive entertainment notes, Lazard Capital Markets' Colin Sebastian has made his predictions on the 'battle royale' set to take place this week as the Wii and PS3 see their official US lanches.
Says Sebastian, "This week represents a significant milestone in the interactive entertainment universe," though, he hastens to add, "the significance of the launches for the software publishers is largely symbolic, as the new consoles will not likely be meaningful drivers of software sales until later next year when we expect the installed bases of the PS3 and Wii to reach more critical mass."
Still, "excitement surrounding the hardware launches backed by significant marketing budgets from Microsoft (Xbox 360), Sony (PS3 and PSP) and Nintendo (Wii and DS) – should benefit overall industry trends through the holiday."
On retailers' struggles to secure and supply a continuous flow of hardware, Sebastian adds that Lazard continues to expect shortages for most stores: "Our channel checks with retailers indicate that there is strong interest in both the PS3 and Wii; most stores sold out of pre-orders quickly."
"We expect Sony to deliver 150-200k units to stores in the United States for the launch; consumers without pre-orders may find it difficult to locate an available system. We estimate sales of approximately 750k PS3s domestically by year-end. We expect a more robust launch from Nintendo, with at least 1.2 million units sold in the U.S. and up to four million units shipped worldwide by year-end."
"Due to the limited initial installed base of the platforms, we believe the financial impact over the holiday period will be more significant for hardware manufacturers and video game retailers (such as GameStop) than for software publishers."
In addition to predicting a strong push for Xbox 360 products due to a shortage in PS3 supply, Sebastian also says the newly launched consoles may not have as significant an impact on holiday sales.
He adds: "We expect less than 15% of software sales to come from the PS3 and Wii this holiday; the more numerous Xbox 360, PS2 and handheld platforms (DS and PSP) remain key drivers of growth," though, he predicts, "this fifth major platform transition is likely to be the largest product launch in the industry’s history."
#149
Originally Posted by KurrptSenate
no, but they should wait for confirmation, or not have you put any money down at all
I hope that made sense.



