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Old 11-12-06 | 03:39 PM
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I read that best buy is handing out tickets 11pm on Thursday.

2 questions.

1. What time do you think people will start lining up outside bestbuy.

2. If I get a ticket at 11 pm, does that mean I can go home and come back in the morning and pick it up when they open?

Where'd you read this? This type of practice would surely encourage more people to start going out Wednesday afternoon/night instead of Thursday morning/afternoon.

I was planning on going to BB by Thursday afternoon....think this'll be too late? I've never done this type of thing before.
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Old 11-12-06 | 03:40 PM
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my chances of getting a PS3 have fallen into the gutter with all these stores doing the raffle stuff. I think I'm just going to wait until some store online starts taking orders for these now. I just can't see waiting in line for awhile and have some guy show up and hour or 2 after me get one while I get the shaft.
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Old 11-12-06 | 04:09 PM
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Wow, you're right! Sony needs to get this info out there or there's going to be major backlash down the road.
http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...emortplay.html
I think at this point, major backlash is unavoidable.
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Old 11-12-06 | 04:51 PM
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The BB flyer stated they will hand out tickets one hour before they open.....
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Old 11-12-06 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wewantflair
Where'd you read this? This type of practice would surely encourage more people to start going out Wednesday afternoon/night instead of Thursday morning/afternoon.

I was planning on going to BB by Thursday afternoon....think this'll be too late? I've never done this type of thing before.
Read it in the best buy flyer.
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Old 11-12-06 | 05:06 PM
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Went by my Target today and asked about their shipment and they said that they will be getting less PS3's at launch then they got 360's which means it's going to be less than 14 he told me. Also he told me that they won't be letting people camp out because the cops will be kicking everyone out, and that people could start lining up around 5 a.m. on Friday. I don't think i'm gonna bother going to that store now.

Gonna check Best Buy and CC tomorrow or Tuesday.
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Old 11-12-06 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bballing
Read it in the best buy flyer.
Either your local flyer is different, or you read it incorrectly. Our flyers say that they are giving out tickets an hour before opening.
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Old 11-12-06 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wewantflair
Either your local flyer is different, or you read it incorrectly. Our flyers say that they are giving out tickets an hour before opening.

Mine says they hand out tickets at 11pm, they open at 12 am and close when all ps3's are sold.
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Old 11-12-06 | 08:02 PM
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Ahhh, I see you live in Minnesota. That explains it! You guys have all the fun when it comes to Best Buy.
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Old 11-12-06 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wewantflair
Ahhh, I see you live in Minnesota. That explains it! You guys have all the fun when it comes to Best Buy.
Even for Minnesota, that flyer only is referring to what will happen at the Richfield store. All of the other stores in MN are doing day-of ticket-giving and selling, no midnight reelase.
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Old 11-13-06 | 06:54 AM
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I was at Wal*Mart Saturday and their PS3 demo was locked up.
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Old 11-13-06 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PixyJunket
I was at Wal*Mart Saturday and their PS3 demo was locked up.
not working or locked behind something?
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Old 11-13-06 | 07:55 AM
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So, is anyone getting the $500 model now that we know the HD is so easily replaceable with a much larger drive?
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Old 11-13-06 | 08:46 AM
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not working or locked behind something?
Not working.. like the game locked up. And of course, since it was Wal*Mart there wasn't an single employee in the store not behind a register that I could get to reset it. Oh well, I have a Best Buy trip to make this week maybe I can try it there.
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Old 11-13-06 | 08:47 AM
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So, is anyone getting the $500 model now that we know the HD is so easily replaceable with a much larger drive?
When (er.. if) I decide to get one that'll be my choice.
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Old 11-13-06 | 09:05 AM
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I had a dream last night. I had a dream in which 400,000 people bought PS3s. in the dream most of the 400,000 people who ignorantly bought these for a huge markup opened up their boxes and removed everything contained inside. in my dream they anxiously hooked everything up and turned it on. after about 5 minutes of on time it happened - the PS3 logged into the mothership and caused a nationwide lockup. no one could get their PS3s to do anything. in my dream they all tried, they pulled plugs, they emailed people, they called anyone who would listen but no one was there. nothing could stop this mass shutdown. it was the end, the end of it all. the world will never be the same. mass hysteria set in. they turned to the streets. people were dying. there were bodies everywhere. then after a moment of reason, they all realized they should have bought a Nintendo.






















no more eating burritos and then going to bed for me.
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Old 11-13-06 | 09:07 AM
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Very In-depth 3-part look at Sony's online service for the PS3: http://www.innerbits.com/blog/2006/1...he-ps3-online/

Here are the sections I found the most interesting:

EDI is not just a place for game developers to regurgitate old titles with slightly retooled graphics, nor just a dumping ground for casual games. It is a honest attempt at creating a space for indie games in the console world. EDI has been quietly working with a number of teams to come out with smaller scale games which would benefit from such an approach (“about 40” exclusive titles). One has to only look as far as David Jaffe’s latest offering to contemplate the possibilities of such a system. Yes, Sony still has a long way to go to fulfill the potential of EDI, but what we’ve seen so far is very promising.
The reality is that the friend’s list support that Sony have provided in their libraries is terrible. From within a game, you are notified when your friends sign on and sign off (with a nice translucent overlay)…and that’s about it. Developers have no way of interfacing with this list in any useful manner. You can’t find out if your friends are watching a movie, surfing the net or playing another game. If you send them an invite, you have to hope they sign on to the same game you’re playing before they’ll even see it. Furthermore, there is currently no functionality to even “accept” the invite. It’s just a message to come join a game; it won’t actually take you to the game. Developers have to deal with that problem themselves.
Currently, there is also no default headset support, no voice support on the PS3. This feature has been a TRC requirement for every online game for the Xbox. Let me rephrase that: since the launch of Xbox Live (over 4 years ago), every online game released had to support voice chat. And of course, Microsoft provided libraries. If developers want to support voice chat on the PS3 right now, they have to implement it themselves.
As a relevant example, SCEA had apparently developed a complete online solution for the PS3 (to put it on par with Xbox Live for multiplayer support, ranking, achievements, etc). Sony Japan reportedly came in and cancelled the whole thing, simply saying, “no, you have to use the libraries we’ve put together”.
The lack of a consistent system to offer multiplayer support will lead to vastly different levels of quality across different games. In comparison, Microsoft has only ever allowed one publisher to handle their own multiplayer service on Xbox Live: EA. And judging by how poorly consumers are responding to EA’s online support, EA is paying a steep price for its arrogant belief that they can always do better.
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Old 11-13-06 | 09:27 AM
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When I read Flay's post above, one thought comes to my mind is this is what you get for a FREE service. As they always say, you get what you pay for and in this case it sounds like the possibilities of many headaches.
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Wow. That sounds like a cluster-F for online gameplay.
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After reading that, I feel vindicated. For months I've been saying that since Sony's online service is free, users will end up paying for it one way or another. And I was right.
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Sony sold 88,400 PS3s in Japan in 2 days: publisher
Mon Nov 13, 5:39 AM ET

TOKYO (Reuters) - Sony Corp (NYSE:SNE - news). sold 88,400 units of its PlayStation 3 game console in the first two days after the launch in Japan, leaving most stores without any stock, video game magazine publisher Enterbrain said on Monday.

Sony started selling the latest version of its blockbuster game console in Japan on Saturday, and all indications point to a strong start. Sony plans to have the PS3 on shelves in North America on November 17, followed by a European launch in March.

According to Enterbrain, Sony sold 88,400 units combined on Saturday and Sunday, depleting stocks at most electronics retailers that were able to get their hands on a limited supply of the console.

Sony was able to ship only 100,000 units for the launch after a glitch in blue laser diode production disrupted its output plans.

An official at Enterbrain said the sales figure could be interpreted as a promising start for the PS3, with thousands of game fans queuing for hours at electronics stores in Tokyo over the weekend to be among the first to play PS3 games.

The PS3 is up against Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360, which has been on sale for the past year, and Nintendo Co. Ltd.'s upcoming Wii game console, which is scheduled to go on sale on November 19 in the United States and December 2 in Japan.

Enterbrain said that Ridge Racer 7 and Mobile Suit Gundam: Target in Sight, both from Namco Bandai Holdings, were the top two selling games at about 30,000 units each.

The basic model of the PS3, equipped with a 20-gigabyte hard disk drive, sells for 49,980 yen ($425), while a more advanced 60-gigabyte version is retailing for about 60,000 yen.

Of the total sold so far in Japan, Enterbrain said 54,600, or about 62 percent, were of the more advanced model.

So, I wonder if this is a disappointment since this wasn't a total sell out after 2 days?

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November 10, 2006

Merrill Lynch Predicts Massive PS3 Losses, Downgrades Sony
The Japanese arm of analyst and financial firm Merrill Lynch has revised down Sony's forecast and cut its target share price, in anticipation of the launch of the company's PlayStation 3 next-gen console.

Japanese news service FISCO has reported that the company's target share prices of Sony has fallen from ¥4,700 to ¥4,000 (from $40.05 down to $34.09). In addition, Merrill Lynch is estimating a multi-billion dollar operating loss for Sony based on its PlayStation 3 launch.

The group has said it expects Sony to lose a total of ¥738.9 billion ($6.3 billion) over the next 5 years based on manufacturing and sales costs of the PlayStation 3, which includes complex elements in both its CPU and optical drive arenas.

It was Merrill Lynch estimates that earlier this year described the console as an “expensive and difficult-to-manufacture product” based on the “problem points” of the the Cell processor and Blu-ray disc drive, and put manufacturing costs of the console at around $800 at launch, falling to $320 over the following three years.

That followed more estimates from the company that suggested the PlayStation 3 would not be launched until late 2006 in Japan and early 2007 in North America. Sony refuted the comments at the time, as it was still aiming for a spring 2006 launch. Though both of these regions will be seeing the launch of the console over the coming week, the European PS3 launch has been delayed into early 2007.

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Old 11-13-06 | 12:12 PM
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They had the display up at our Target but it was inactive. I did get to finally handle the new Dual Shock. I like the new trigger-style L2/R2 buttons, and it's the smoothest feeling trigger button I've felt on a first-party controller. I still prefer the 360 controller overall, but this is a nice compromise between that controller and the PS2 dual shock.
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Old 11-13-06 | 12:13 PM
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I'd say it would be a slight dissapointment - due to the fact, everyone counted on it selling out as soon as it hit the streets.
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So, I wonder if this is a disappointment since this wasn't a total sell out after 2 days?

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Depends on how you look at it. I thought they were only shipping 80,000? So if there were 100,000 like the article says, then there are stll 12,000 still unaccounted for. Pretty dissappointing I would say considering they launched with a quarter of what the 360 did, which sold out in minutes here.
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