Yeah, I've not heard one way or the other. I just hope it's not a problem finding an S-video cable on day 1. Though I guess I could just hook up to the composites on the front of my TV until I track one down if it is.

I agree with you that the hardcore gamers aren't likely to "settle" for a Wii if they get skunked out of a PS3. BUT... there are plenty of parents and grandparents who probably will make the switch rather than risk being empty-handed for Christmas.

I'm sold! Now if only Smash Bros were a launch title :). I can honestly wait until 2007 for Metroid, hell I havent even finished part 1 yet (yes I know lazy). I simply cannot wait!

Possibly, but I can't imagine many of those types are looking for the $600 PS3 in any case.

And they still might be more likely to switch to the 360.

I'm not saying your scenario won't happen, but as Nintendo has stated they are going for a different market than Sony and MS.

I just don't see many Wiis selling when people can't find a PS3 as they just don't appeal to the same crowd.

I do think a lot of kids will ask for a PS3 and get a Wii as the parents refuse to pay $500-600 for the PS3 even if they can find one and buy the cheapest option though. But that is indepent of the release dates.

you are wrong...they know YOU are going to buy it. i was going to buy it. i am not mad or screaming or sad or anything else, i have simply decided not to buy the Wii right out of the gate. i don't think you are the customer they are going for...they are trying to corral the nongamers or fenceriders. i have been a gamer for many years. 38 yo, i have a wife and two kids. i own/have owned nes, snes, genesis, n64, gamecube, PS1, PS2, and a 360. i was certainly planning on getting the Wii on launch day but several things have no dissuaded me. the cost of the console $250 + an extra controller $60 + a SD memory card $50 + possible component cables is putting the price in the neighborhood of $400 bucks. kind of expensive for somebody that was supposed to be the "cheaper alternative". it isn't even the money honestly...i make more than enough. i am just not going to spend $400 right now when there isn't anything really good to play. simple as that. with mario and metroid not coming until 2007, why would i spend that 400 bucks now? i am just going to pick up a copy of zelda for my gamecube and be more than happy with it. next year i will probably pick up the Wii with or without a pricedrop, when there is something i wanna play on it.

i am kind of scared for nintendo though. i seriously doubt that the person walking into a store the weekend after thanksgiving, ready to plunk down 600 bucks for a ps3 and not able to find one is going to be happy with the wii, whether it is for them or their kids. i think they are MUCH MUCH more likely to pick up a 360 thinking they are saving a couple hundred dollars and getting a gameplay experience far closer to the ps3 than the wii would be. if microsoft does any kind of significant bundle or a $50 price drop, well, i think nintendo is in big time trouble if there is less than $100 difference between them and their competition. i suspect the execs at microsoft are dancing a super happy dance today, especially if they have the forementioned bundle/price drop in the works...

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748547/vids_1.html

IGN has some videos of metroid up that show the super responsive expert control mode raved about in the story I posted earlier in the thread.

Also of note from the video (at least to me) was that their was voice acting in the game.

As I watch that video, I find myself using both hands trying to see what it might be like to play the game using the Wii's controllers. :lol:

I'm very happy about the announcement of bundled component cables.

As for WiiSports, I wouldn't buy it if they sold it separately. I will play it since it's packed-in, however. And WhoGirl loves bowling, so that will work out well for her. Does it include golf, too?

Yup. Bowling, golf, baseball, tennis, and boxing.

What is that pong type game I've seen videos of? Is that in Wii Sports also?

Is it still so hard that they need target lock-on in an FPS?

I think that is in a compilation of minigames that is being sold seperately and bundled with a Wiimote in Japan.

IDK. They might leave that in since it was in the first two games, or that might be from one of the other control options, or just something they haven't taken out of expert control yet since they are still tweaking it. :shrugs:

I liked the lock on to, but I hate FPS games in most cases so I'm not in the audience that thinks the lock on is cheap etc.

I think the lock on worked for Metroid. Certainly not a deal breaker in any way. The new one may have a lock on for things like the grappling beam, considering how they intend for you to use it.

Do we have a release date on Day of Destruction (I think that's the name of it, the disaster game)? That one really caught my interest.

Well I guess I don't share the heartache that some are feeling with todays announcements. It seems like before the announcements I was seeing lots of these kinds of posts. "Wii is the only true next gen system beacuse it changes the way you play games" Now suddenly people are saying it is just a glorified gamecube. It is graphically, but that isn't what most of us were excited about anyways.

250 doesn't seem unreasonable to me. If the system is as good as we have hyped the price seems fine. I like having the pack in, but I am seeing a lot of speculation on it being a tech demo. Does anyone have further info on Wii sports? I guess I thought it would be a little more in depth of a game. I loved the baseball and tennis games I played at E3, but I thought they would be somewhat full games.

The controller price is higher than expected, I guess it can be justified as that is where the tech is, but it will be harder for the Wii to be the party system with controller so expensive.

The virtual console wasn't the big selling point for me, I am not affected by the prices that much. I do think they are just setting a baseline price. I think the games will start to come down based on market demand very quickly.

I am not sure if I will get a Wii at lauch. My biggest concern isn't the cost, but the launch games. If the launch games get good reviews I will probably get one for XMAs, otherwise I will wait. Right now Zelda is the only game I am positive about, no other game has me pumped, but that could easily change if the reviews are good. The delay in Prime and wait for some other big games might defer my purchase a while. I might pick up a 360 this holiday season instead, just because it has built up a decent library of games I want to play, and now some games are hitting the magic $20 price. I also plan on getting an HDTV this holiday season so the 360 would be a good choice, it all depends on the quality of the Wii launch software.

It's getting better and better. :whofart:

Honestly, $250 wasn't a big deal to me either. My main problem is the fact that we don't have the option to skip Wii Sports and save some money. $250 seemed high based on the fact the console could be $35 cheaper. That knowledge is what is messing with me.

However, the fact it comes with Component cables has definitely softened the blow and my wife is really wanting to get one so I may be back in the mix. That controller cost is the big sticking point to me right now. I am not buying controllers unless I can find a deal of some kind. $60 is out of the question. I can hear the arguements about the tech in the remote, but these things are pure profit to console makers and they are getting greedy on them.

I'm not thrilled with the SNES pricing, but for games like Super Mario RPG I will definitely shell out $8. I'm worried though that they may only put the junk SNES titles at $8 and try and rape us on the classics we really want. Hopefully that is not the case. I'm also hoping there will be lots of deals to get free VC games by preordering, etc that will also add a lot of value.

One factor I honestly forgot was the fact I can sell my GameCube to get this. I probably can't get more than $50 for it, but that brings the console down to the $200 I want. I was planning on keeping the GameCube, but I can also sell the rare component cables and cover even more of the Wii cost. This is probably the factor that will have me ordering one.

I'll get to play Wii on October 20th. :)

Reports so far: component cable included

If you pay $50 for an SD card you must live in Canada or something. I got a 1GB SD card for $2 AR a while back. 1GB SD cards are readily available at about $20-$25 TOPS, and 256-512MB cards are like $5-$10 AR. They're practically giving them away now, like CD-Rs. :D I've got a a 16MB and a 32MB card laying around spare.


$250 + $60 for extra controller + $5 for an SD card (assuming you need a nunchuck) = $315


I have to admit, though, the launch list is looking a bit sparse. It's making me consider holding off until January. I still plan on buying a Wii and a 360, though, and likely in that order. No way in hell I'm paying $600 for a PS3.

And the VC pricing sucks. NES games shouldn't be $5 IMO but something like $2-$3 tops. I don't have an issue with $10 n64 games but $5 NES games seems overpriced.

This brings up an interesting question to me. I have a feeling that the control scheme of MP3 may be such that it invalidates the MP1 and 2 scheme. I mean, will we be able to enjoy MP1&2 after MP3 which I am assuming to be a more intuitive, free experience?

I would not be surprised to see a combo disc of MP1&2 with the MP3 control scheme on the Wii at some point. Again, assuming it is a resounding success.

I know this is supposed to be a story about how Nintendo screwed up on the pricing.

But all I can think after reading that, is if $40 really means that much to people, then Nintendo execs must be doing the dance of joy.

I knew it! We Europeans have to pay the most again.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/15/wi...e-for-gbp-179/

I am on the exact same page. Japan getting a non Sports bundle for $212 is a kick in the balls. The change in opinion about the game is because of this extra $35. We all assumed that with its simplicity it would come at no extra charge and would be perfect in teaching wiimote functionality. Now we know without a doubt WiiSports comes at a price.

The component cable issue has softened the blow for me as well. Definitely much easier to swallow the price now that I don't have to blow another $30-$40 on cables.

As for an extra Wiimote, I think I'm banking on Sam's Club to come through for me. Probably a console, extra Wiimote and nunchuck for maybe $290 or something. I just wish launch wasn't a Sunday. No early purchase. :(

I'm not too keen on the VC pricing either. Sure the price is comparable to MS's arcade, but MS offers demos, HD & achievements. Nintendo's pricing totally kills impulse buys.

I bet this means about a £200 price in the UK :( I hope no more than a fiver is charged for virtual console games of any sort when it arrive over here.

Bah :(

That means paying over the odds for virtual console games as well then. Will we (non US/Japanese people) be able to download games on the VC that weren't released in Europe (eg Mario RPG etc)? :confused: