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Supermallet 10-04-06 11:23 PM

In defense of Vandelay, a $1 region code defeat will not help for VC games, unless someone finds a way to access the VC of other countries.

However, I don't really understand what the rest of Vandelay's argument is about. Nintendo isn't on the side of value because Super Smash Bros. is still $30? You can get the Gamecube for $100 or $60 used. So a Gamecube with Super Smash Bros. is STILL cheaper than a new PS2 slim ($130 by itself) with a greatest hits PS2 game.

And I think it should be clear that the company seeking to be affordable and a good value this generation is clearly Nintendo and NOT Sony. I mean, hell, even if you turn the other cheek on the $600 system pricetag, how can you look at stuff like Gran Turismo HD and say that's a company with a business model of good value? To me that's far more disturbing than the region coding issue.

Josh H 10-05-06 12:54 AM

1. The GC is only 5 years old this november--not 6. It came out in Nov. 2001.

2. The Wii is more powerful than it graphically, nearly twice as much. It's not the 360 or PS3--not even close. But it isn't just the GC with a new controller either. i.e. Mario Galaxy looks MUCH better than Mario Sunshine when you see it in motion.

Supermallet 10-05-06 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
Anyway, I'm not the one who brought up pricing. Regional coding is despicable. End of tale. :)

So I take it you don't buy DVDs from any major studio then, right?

GreenMonkey 10-05-06 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
Clearly they are heading in another direction with the PS3, but the quality*quantity/price ratio of their current generation is unbeatable.

And I question how a 6 year-old console with a new controller for $250, or 12-year old downloadable games for $8 can be regarded as "good value". Hell, that's almost what I just paid for my brand-new physical copies of Beyond Good and Evil and Killer 7.

Quality*quantity/price? What does that mean? I have no idea what you're saying.

I'm not aware of a 6-year old console with a new controller coming out. Please elighten me.

BTW: Super Mario World > BG&E and Killer7

Brent L 10-05-06 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
And I question how a 6 year-old console with a new controller for $250, or 12-year old downloadable games for $8 can be regarded as "good value".

Saying silly things like that aren't helping to make your point at all, and if anything is just hurting you, not to mention that it's a borderline threadcrap.

Outlaw 10-05-06 02:16 AM

That information is old, we've known that for a long time.

grim_tales 10-05-06 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by PixyJunket
Well, you're from Europe.. so being region-free actually means a little something there with how long it sometimes takes for games to get there (IF they get there). For Americans, region-free is only good for crazies like myself who want to play games like Twinkle Fairy Princess that would never, ever come out in English.

Also, just because VC is region-coded doesn't mean you'll only be seeing games that were originally released there. I'd imagine that for stuff that was US only before it'd just be a matter of who owns the publishing rights to it in Europe allowing it to be on the VC system.

Thanks :)
Maybe I'm reading too much into it - after all the article doesnt actually say "only games that were originally released in Europe" just "European versions" so maybe they could optimise US/Japanese stuff for Europe, I dont know :)

Supermallet 10-05-06 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
I like Nintendo as much as the next guy, but let's face the facts here.

Kind of like saying that the new PC you bought with twice the power of your old PC is "still just a PC."

Michael Corvin 10-05-06 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Sorraffy

Wow this looks exactly like a guy I went to high school with. Where are you from Soraffy?

Sorraffy 10-05-06 07:53 AM

lol believe me that's not me, i was unable to recreate myself so i just went random and that's what came out

joeblow69 10-06-06 10:19 AM

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but:
Square Enix games will be available on the Virtual Console

Brent L 10-07-06 08:13 PM

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flashburn 10-07-06 08:20 PM

That's a lotta wii!

Michael Corvin 10-07-06 09:50 PM

Ahh, the wiimote glove mystery revealed. A rubber grip might be nice. It is cool that you get three to a pack.

Gromit 10-08-06 06:43 AM

Dog tags and lapel pins?

Better reserve those as I'm sure they will go fast.

Anubis2005X 10-08-06 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Gromit
Dog tags and lapel pins?

Better reserve those as I'm sure they will go fast.

:lol:

Absolute Zero 10-08-06 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Gromit
Dog tags and lapel pins?

Better reserve those as I'm sure they will go fast.


Those will be the first thing stores start giving away free with the purchase of a system.

Gromit 10-08-06 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Absolute Zero
Those will be the first thing stores start giving away free with the purchase of a system.

'Mike' posted this in the Engadget comments:


Obviously Nintendo has recognized the dangers presented by rooms full of arm waving children. This shows they care enough to make sure that the parents can identify the bodies.

pizzamousechips 10-08-06 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Ahh, the wiimote glove mystery revealed. A rubber grip might be nice. It is cool that you get three to a pack.

It's nice and not nice. What about that fourth? It's the hot dog bun fiasco all over again.

pizzamousechips 10-08-06 09:06 PM

I've heard negative talk about FPS controls. Anyone know why don't they make them like a stand-up shooter (Time Crisis, Virtua Cop), just with added control-stick movement? I think aiming would be easier that way, as opposed to a 3d mouse. Stand-up shooter controls can't be twitchy.

Josh H 10-08-06 09:10 PM

There's a (probably BS) rumor going around about an early Wii launch.

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/nintend...rly-206059.php

darkside 10-08-06 09:21 PM

I don't see why Nintendo would do that this late in the game. However, launching after the PS3 is a bit confusing when they seem to have plenty of consoles. I agree its probably a BS rumor. Nintendo may just be shipping them out early to have them ready for launch.

Nintendo may be counting on all the frustrated PS3 buyers getting a Wii instead when it launches.


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