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Old 12-09-05 | 12:54 PM
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A substantial re-release 6 months after the initial release? I think that would be the final nail in the coffin for the NextGen console war. If that is what happens, and Sony can deliver enough units to satisfy launch and have them on shelves steadily after launch, Microsoft will have no way of dominance.

If they would have been able to pull off this launch and have people getting them as they go out and look, and keeping steady shipments, I think Microsoft would have gained a substantial lead in the console battle.

Too bad they messed it up, because it really is quite a system.
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Old 12-09-05 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kakihara1
Looks like they are available on BB.com for canadians right now, too bad I can't get one from there cause they won't ship to the U.S.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/subcla...gon=&langid=EN

*Edit* disregard this I guess they don't actually have any in stock.
I was just randomly checking a few minutes ago. They had 39 premiums on the site. After I successfully placed my order they were sold out. This was in a span of only two minutes.

Looks like I got wicked lucky.
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Old 12-09-05 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Corleone
I was just randomly checking a few minutes ago. They had 39 premiums on the site. After I successfully placed my order they were sold out. This was in a span of only two minutes.

Looks like I got wicked lucky.
the site says they have 26 left in stock.
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Old 12-09-05 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wastro
Microsoft is planning a US-only re-launch in March '06.
Are you people really this naive? Or just so anti-Microsoft?

Product has been replenished regularly, as proven by many in this thread placing orders and seeing them shipped. MS will have launched worldwide in the span of 2 1/2 weeks, shipping close to 1 million units. Now that stockpiling for the regional launches is over, you can reasonably expect to see more product on the shelves between now and Christmas. Best Buy is even planning their own launch again on the 18th, indicating that they are receiving and will restock their shelves soon.

This is an unmitigated success for MS, as they are producing all they possible can and selling them in literally seconds. And this demand will continue at least thru the holidays. There is no way that they will hold product until March to "relaunch". 360's will be on the shelves as soon as they are manufactured and received, and sell as soon as they arrive.

I guess the alternative is something like the PS2 (and probably PS3) launch, where it was released in Japan first and everyone else had to wait 6 months. Seems to make more sense to release everywhere at once and create that demand and capture market share worldwide.
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Wow...just tried again on Amex's wishlist. I clicked on the link 20 seconds before the time...expected to get the same "you're too early, try again when it's time" message...instead...it goes to "cotacting server"...and within 1 or 2 seconds after the official start time, the message transitions to "too late, none are left."

oh well.
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Wow...just tried again on Amex's wishlist. I clicked on the link 20 seconds before the time...expected to get the same "you're too early, try again when it's time" message...instead...it goes to "cotacting server"...and within 1 or 2 seconds after the official start time, the message transitions to "too late, none are left."

oh well.
I clicked on it as soon as the number chaged to 3pm and it is still sitting on contacting server. It has been saying that for 17 min. now.
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Wow.. I read on the xboxscene forums that costcos got some today. One reported 50 at one near me as of noon. It was 1:15pm, so I took my lunch and drove there. The guy checking cards at the front had an xbox 360 sign on him and luckily I asked if they have them and he pointed me to a spot up front where there was a line of people getting them. I would have walked around the store otherwise. When I got to the line, there were about 10 left. By the time I left, they were all gone. They did it nice, 1 per person and a nice orderly line.

If I had walked around the store, they would have been all gone.
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Best Buy allocations for December 18th

Ok, first off, this is unvarified. I am just posting here what has been found at IGN or gamefaqs (not really sure where it originated, but I saw it at xbox.com)

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Old 12-09-05 | 02:22 PM
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Wow.. I read on the xboxscene forums that costcos got some today. One reported 50 at one near me as of noon. It was 1:15pm, so I took my lunch and drove there. The guy checking cards at the front had an xbox 360 sign on him and luckily I asked if they have them and he pointed me to a spot up front where there was a line of people getting them. I would have walked around the store otherwise. When I got to the line, there were about 10 left. By the time I left, they were all gone. They did it nice, 1 per person and a nice orderly line.

If I had walked around the store, they would have been all gone.
That's good news. Not only did they get 50, but it took around an hour to sell out. And it wasn't even at opening.
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Old 12-09-05 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DoomsDave
Are you people really this naive? Or just so anti-Microsoft?

Product has been replenished regularly, as proven by many in this thread placing orders and seeing them shipped. MS will have launched worldwide in the span of 2 1/2 weeks, shipping close to 1 million units. Now that stockpiling for the regional launches is over, you can reasonably expect to see more product on the shelves between now and Christmas. Best Buy is even planning their own launch again on the 18th, indicating that they are receiving and will restock their shelves soon.

This is an unmitigated success for MS, as they are producing all they possible can and selling them in literally seconds. And this demand will continue at least thru the holidays. There is no way that they will hold product until March to "relaunch". 360's will be on the shelves as soon as they are manufactured and received, and sell as soon as they arrive.

I guess the alternative is something like the PS2 (and probably PS3) launch, where it was released in Japan first and everyone else had to wait 6 months. Seems to make more sense to release everywhere at once and create that demand and capture market share worldwide.
Hey man, don't attack the messanger. If you're calling me or the people who've commented 'naive,' that's fine. But I work in the advertising department here and consider myself somewhat 'in the know' when it comes to this, especially since I've been asking the Electronics people about 360 availability for over a month.

My understanding was that they'd shipped more units than expected to Asia and Europe to capture more market share and that the re-launch will divert systems from overseas and back into North America.
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Old 12-09-05 | 02:30 PM
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There will be no need for a relaunch because demand will die down enough in mid-Jan. Once the Ebay market collapses for these after the holidays, people will quit stalking them for profit, then the regular folks who want one shouldn't have a big problem. I think this relaunch stuff is non-sense.
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Old 12-09-05 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wastro
My understanding was that they'd shipped more units than expected to Asia and Europe to capture more market share and that the re-launch will divert systems from overseas and back into North America.
So the 360 ins't regionally encoded for things like DVD playback? Plus doesn't Europe have different outlets and run at 50Hz? So what good will these diverted units do back in the US?
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I went and tried the Amex thing again since some guys at FatWallet won. No luck I even tried clicking 1 min before it hit 3pm and all I got was contacting server. What really pisses me off is some of the guys winning, already own one and are just planning to make some profit on Ebay. I guess nothing wrong with that I just want one too.
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Old 12-09-05 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jon-w9
So the 360 ins't regionally encoded for things like DVD playback? Plus doesn't Europe have different outlets and run at 50Hz? So what good will these diverted units do back in the US?
Actually, I think they would have to produce fewer overseas units and more US-based units. So it's not exactly 'diverting' systems, but just changing how many are manufactured for each region.
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Old 12-09-05 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gallant Pig
There will be no need for a relaunch because demand will die down enough in mid-Jan. Once the Ebay market collapses for these after the holidays, people will quit stalking them for profit, then the regular folks who want one shouldn't have a big problem. I think this relaunch stuff is non-sense.
I agree its a bunch of crap. Maybe you should send em a warning Gallant . Anyway its honest people like us that makes this just seem like a bunch more crap, I mean there was an auction on Overstock.com the guy had 40 systems, now you can't tell me that isn't the local manager at a Walmart or something trying to make extra money for himself. There are a bunch of crooks right now. Anyway it'll be great when I get a 360, but until then F-You Auction Crooks, F-You Decatur Walmart, You're Cool Popeye's Chicken next to EB Games, and F-You EB Games.
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Old 12-09-05 | 02:48 PM
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Re-Launch talk, that's a laugh. Obviously, the demand will drop dramatically after Christmas. Sounds like a case of rumors influencing rumors. Facts just seem to get left by the wayside.
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Old 12-09-05 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Flay
Re-Launch talk, that's a laugh. Obviously, the demand will drop dramatically after Christmas. Sounds like a case of rumors influencing rumors. Facts just seem to get left by the wayside.
Fact? We don't need no stinkin' facts!

Hell, even the so called facts are wrong. M$ says weekly shipments. I guess if you call a couple hundred shipped a week weekly shipments then they were being truthful.
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Old 12-09-05 | 03:06 PM
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Hm....

I just checked the $1000 GameStop bundle I ordered two nights ago....the status of the 360 itself is now listed as "usually ships in 24 hours". It used to say 11/22/05.
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Old 12-09-05 | 03:23 PM
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I "think" could have bought one online today but decided against it. A few hours ago B&N has a prem bundle available for 900 with stuff I don't want. I figured if I waited this long why not just wait a little longer and save the money?

I'd bet we will start seeing many more units in January. MSFT wants to sell as many possible before PS3 hits.
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Old 12-09-05 | 03:25 PM
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Hm....

I just checked the $1000 GameStop bundle I ordered two nights ago....the status of the 360 itself is now listed as "usually ships in 24 hours". It used to say 11/22/05.
Keep us updated!
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Old 12-09-05 | 03:28 PM
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People on gamefaqs are reporting ebgames.com bundles that they ordered last week are shipping today. They got rid of their $700 bundle though. The new "Ultimate" one has PGR, CoD, PD0, Quake, Madden, and Gun. Plus some really cheap looking dvd case. I think it's $840. Why does every bundle include Madden?
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Old 12-09-05 | 03:36 PM
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I'm really trying to hold off on buying one of these bundles. I just know that I'll be kicking myself for spending $400-500 more than I want to just to get a 360 a little bit sooner than I would if I wait.

I'm going to try BB on the 18th and see what happens. No camping though; I'll be there at 7:00 am or so and see what the line's doing. If it's not too bad I'll wait, but otherwise I'm giving up 'til I can get a premium online for 399 or I find one on the shelves next year.
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Old 12-09-05 | 03:38 PM
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My $1000 GameStop bundle also says that it ships in 24 hours, but the two Play and Charge Kits are backordered as well as one game. I also noticed that the 1 year service plan is cancelled, and the cost subtracted from the total.
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Old 12-09-05 | 03:39 PM
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Why does every bundle include Madden?
Probably a slow seller as most fans probably already bought Madden 2006 on the X-box or another console and are reluctant to upgrade given the less than stellar reviews for the 360 port.
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Old 12-09-05 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DoomsDave
Are you people really this naive? Or just so anti-Microsoft?

Product has been replenished regularly, as proven by many in this thread placing orders and seeing them shipped.
Well when I ask a store employee I am very specific, I ask them if they have gotten ANY since the initial launch.. the answer is always not yet or no followed by either "next week," "sometime before Christmas," or "not 'til after Christmas." So it seems only a handful of places (online) are the ones getting them.

So we aren't naive or anti MS. We actually go to the stores and talk to the employees. Firsthand experience trumps a random stranger on the net any day of the week. So does that make you naive for believing everything you read on the net? Or pro-microsoft? So you can dispense with the broad generalizations.
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