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Old 05-17-05 | 08:34 AM
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Small and compact, but ugly in a utilitarian way. Looks more like a computer component than a console.
Thats the beauty of it. Its not going to be laying around in the middle of the floor. It will be stuck on a shelf somewhere.
Old 05-17-05 | 08:35 AM
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So, is Nintendo planning on releasing a followup to Mario 64 or was Super Mario Sunshine the followup?
Mario Sunshine was very much Mario 64 2. They do have a new Mario to show, I think.
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That is quite a power difference. Like I said that Pixy couldn't get his head around, the smaller size means reduced power. We see that evident today. This is not a bad thing, but is showing that Nintendo will once again take a different direction. It didn't work last time, we'll have to wait and see what it will do this time.

Damn, I wish it was the ON!
Old 05-17-05 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CRM114
Thats the beauty of it. Its not going to be laying around in the middle of the floor. It will be stuck on a shelf somewhere.
I guess. But a throwback to a curvier design like the N64 would have been cooler. And it would have set them apart from the home theater design which the industry seems to be moving too.
Old 05-17-05 | 08:39 AM
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May 17, 2005 - New details regarding Nintendo's next-generation console, codenamed Revolution, have started to sprinkle onto the Internet. The machine, which will be revealed during Nintendo's pre-E3 2005 show on Tuesday morning in Los Angeles, will sport a slick, black design and a front blue light.
Nice! I modded my black Gamecube with a nice blue LED, I love how it looks.

Nintendo also revealed that using Revolution's new Wi-Fi connection, gamers would be able to go online to a free gamer-matching service. Interestingly, in a move similar to Microsoft's Xbox Live Arcade service, Revolution users will be able to download classic and new Nintendo games over the Internet. Nintendo cited such examples as Donkey Kong and Super Mario Sunshine, which suggests that Revolutionaries could have access to games for all the publisher's previous consoles.
YES! Did I not mention this somewhere? Maybe it was an email to someone but I was talking about how nice it would be to download old NES/SNES games and make a functional online arcade service since Live Arcade seems to be a dead fish.
Old 05-17-05 | 08:58 AM
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Download games? Could be cool if they are not overly expensive.
Old 05-17-05 | 09:02 AM
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Download games? Could be cool if they are not overly expensive.
That is what bugs me about Nintendo. I keep wanting to pick up a copy of SMB3 for my GBASP, but the damn thing is $30! They need to get real if they want to sell these games as downloads.
Old 05-17-05 | 09:08 AM
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That is what bugs me about Nintendo. I keep wanting to pick up a copy of SMB3 for my GBASP, but the damn thing is $30! They need to get real if they want to sell these games as downloads.
...Yet Sony is selling Ape Escape and the such for $40...Its the same game on PSX, just now on a handheld.
Old 05-17-05 | 09:14 AM
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...Yet Sony is selling Ape Escape and the such for $40...Its the same game on PSX, just now on a handheld.
Similar yes. Same no. The programming for the PSX vs PSP is so different that it would have to run a PSX emulator and the game in order to work if it was the same game. This is a port with updated mechanics. Overpriced? Yes, but it is not the standard. I had to pay $20/each for SMB1 and Dr. Mario, and that was rediculous. If I didn't have some childhood memories of these games, there is no way I'm shelling out that kind of money for an old-as-dirt game. You can only play the nostalgia card so many times.
Old 05-17-05 | 09:31 AM
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I'm still not to sure that 2-3 times more powerful is a bad thing. The Xbox360 certainly doesn't look 10-15 times as powerful in the tech demos shown so far. There is a limit to what game designers can do.

Give me good games and I will buy. I'm not going to count polygons. That goes for all three systems.

I still think Nintendo took the best avenue anyway. The Xbox360 went for power and just got blown away by the PS3. Nintendo would have lost that battle anyway.

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Old 05-17-05 | 09:46 AM
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I'm still not to sure that 2-3 times more powerful is a bad thing. The Xbox360 certainly doesn't look 10-15 times as powerful in the tech demos shown so far. There is a limit to what game designers can do.

Give me good games and I will buy. I'm not going to count polygons. That goes for all three systems.
You'd have to be insane or a salesperson working on commission to believe those numbers. The end result of what you're going to see on any of the new systems will probably be extremely similar, much like you see now with the broad range between the current PS2 and Xbox. This kind of hype machine spin is starting to get on my nerves. They're playing number games essentially, pointing at a particular flip-flop or some magical hoo-ha and saying "This is 37 times faster than the last one!" and spinning that into an overall representation on the system's performance.
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Not sure if this was posted yet, but there will probably be less HD support on the revolution:
Today's New York Times again discussed next-generation consoles. This time, it gave this bad news about High Definition television support for The Revolution:

"Games created for two next-generation consoles - the Xbox 360 from Microsoft and the PlayStation 3 from Sony - will display video in wide-screen high-definition format if the console is connected to a high-definition TV. Only Nintendo's entry, code-named Revolution, will not cater to HDTV's."
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Let's hope they change that. Not having HiDef is about as stupid as Microsoft not including 100% backwards compatibility. Did Gamecube support any high definition? I know PS2 and Xbox did.
Old 05-17-05 | 10:16 AM
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This is pretty disappointing if its performance relative to the other two machines does turn out to be significantly less. I don't understand how Nintendo hopes to regain marketshare if the Revolution is already going to be 2 steps behind the competition.
Old 05-17-05 | 10:26 AM
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how many "one and only" of these threads are there? I guess they should be merged.
Old 05-17-05 | 10:28 AM
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Each system has their own one and only. I would rather it this way than scanning through 72 pages.
Old 05-17-05 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dick_grayson
how many "one and only" of these threads are there? I guess they should be merged.
There are 3, I think.

One for Xbox, PS3, and Nintendo.
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No HD would be a major bummer and might push me to Sony.
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Originally Posted by joeblow69
Not sure if this was posted yet, but there will probably be less HD support on the revolution:
I'd be shocked if there was no HD support. My guess is that they're just not parading it around like it's the center of what the new system will do. They need to focus on showing good games, games that appeal outside of the 13-20 year old boy market and possible new ways to play games. Leave the number/specification hype to Sony and MS.
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http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/6...g_2789307.html

What the? Is this thing going to run off a battery? It looks like you remove it from the cradle for some reason or another.
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Let's hope they change that. Not having HiDef is about as stupid as Microsoft not including 100% backwards compatibility. Did Gamecube support any high definition? I know PS2 and Xbox did.
The Gamecube supported 480p. No HD.

The Xbox had a small handful of games that supported 720p and maybe 2 that supported 1080i. Not enough HD.

The PS2 had a small handful games that supported 480p and one that upscaled 480 to 1080i (GT4). Upscaled is not HD. No HD.

You can look at all HD games here. HDTV Arcade

I seriously hopt the Revolution supports HD, as it would be the lame duck around my Xbox 360 and PS3.

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Old 05-17-05 | 10:42 AM
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Well, now I can be fully disappointed. I already know I'll buy all three new systems, and I've now been disappointed in all three designs. Nintendo's was my last hope. It is not that it is bad, but just plain, ordinary and boring.

But, I am very curious what they are not showing us still, since the lack of controller hints at some new functions there.

I wonder what Nintendo's response will be to Sony copying some of the ideas Nintendo has built these last couple years (handheld/console connectability, multiple screens, etc.). Will Nintendo just srengthen their current efforts or will we see new ones?
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Originally Posted by Flay
I guess. But a throwback to a curvier design like the N64 would have been cooler. And it would have set them apart from the home theater design which the industry seems to be moving too.

See I like it moving toward home theater design as I'm a neat freak, my consoles go in my HT, and if they look like HT equipment they can be displayed in my component rack instaed of banished to the compartment with doors below my TV where they are out of sight.
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Here is what I potentially see with the Revolution... no wires! No power cord, no video cables, no controller cables. Nothing. You pull the thing off its stand (which has the power cord and video hookups) and it "talks" to the stand using WiFi or Blutooth or something to display the video. And of course wireless contollers to boot. This is all just a guess, but it would be a neat idea.

Also might explain why no HD?
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Backwards compatible? That's good to hear. I hope the system isn't too expensive though.


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