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Old 05-18-23, 04:17 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

I'll tell you why we need a Writers Strike. Because I had to change the thread title after it was "Writer's Strike 2023?" for a full month and none of you noticed!
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Oh, I thought just one writer was going on strike. Thanks for confusing me for a month!
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by story
I'll tell you why we need a Writers Strike. Because I had to change the thread title after it was "Writer's Strike 2023?" for a full month and none of you noticed!
I put the question mark initially because it was uncertain at the time. Now that itís full on striking, thanks for noticing and taking the initiative.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by DJariya
I put the question mark initially because it was uncertain at the time. Now that itís full on striking, thanks for noticing and taking the initiative.
I don't believe that is the change he is talking about....
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Oh the apostrophe for one writer vs multiple writers
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Don't blame me. I'm listed as the Thread Starter but this is a spin off from the last strike thread.
I beat DJ with the stroke vote news by 2 minutes.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

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Old 05-22-23, 10:01 AM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by DJariya
Oh the apostrophe for one writer vs multiple writers
Writers' Strike
Old 05-22-23, 10:44 AM
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Has this been discussed? What happens to the other working-class crew members with this strike? Do their respective unions pay them somehow? Or are the writers screwing everyone over?

Less money, less problems. The employers might actually be saving and making more money during this strike.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

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Who is picking up the tab for the cast and crew of all the productions shut down?
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So the 100,000+ crew out of work all get paid off "insurance" in 100% of their pay? Or do they just not get to work why Writers get full union pay?
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Has this been discussed? What happens to the other working-class crew members with this strike? Do their respective unions pay them somehow? Or are the writers screwing everyone over?

Less money, less problems. The employers might actually be saving and making more money during this strike.
I feel like this "what about the other workers" talking point is either a misunderstanding of how strikes work at best or at worst some kind of anti-union propaganda/talking point. I mean it comes up a lot, is there just that much concern for the other workers or something (out of nowhere)?
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Employers: "But what about all the other people I'm underpaying? You're screwing them over when you strike!"
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Yeah there is a lot of solidarity with the actors in this strike (which is different than the 2007 one). Several high-profile actors are joining the picket lines. I think this strongly indicates that a SAG strike for the same issues is not far off.
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SAG-AFTRA is currently voting on a strike authorization. Voting ends on June 5. Contract negotiations with the studios begin on Jun 7 and the current contract expires on June 30.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by GuessWho
Writers' Strike
I've seen major news outlets use both Writers' Strike and Writers Strike. Maybe we should simplify it and change the thread title again to WGA Strike.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

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Maybe we should simplify it and change the thread title again to WGA Strike.
And then a month later change it to WGA/SAG Strike
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And then a month later change it to WGA/SAG Strike
WGA/SAG Strikes.

Or maybe WGA/SAG Strike's?
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by fujishig
I feel like this "what about the other workers" talking point is either a misunderstanding of how strikes work at best or at worst some kind of anti-union propaganda/talking point. I mean it comes up a lot, is there just that much concern for the other workers or something (out of nowhere)?
Wirters = 10,000
crew = 200,000+
cast = probably 10,000

yeah, some people care about the below the line people that donít get 5k a week to sit in an air conditioned room and write. California is going to take a massive hit as many of the crew have been laid off and departments and closing. Where are those people going to work? How will they pay their rent?
mortgages? Food? They get nothing while the writers strike and actively shut down productions.

when this strike ends, we will see a lot less of scripted TV and many of those people wonít be able to find work. But phew. As long as we get 12 writers on a single script for Law and Order weíre good!
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Yeah there is a lot of solidarity with the actors in this strike (which is different than the 2007 one). Several high-profile actors are joining the picket lines. I think this strongly indicates that a SAG strike for the same issues is not far off.
You mean the same actors who also write?
or the actors who canít work work now because kd
the strike?
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by etching
And then a month later change it to WGA/SAG Strike
And then around a month after that change it to "WGA/SAG/DGA Strike". Buckle your seatbelts!
Old 05-23-23, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
yeah, some people care about the below the line people that donít get 5k a week to sit in an air conditioned room and write. California is going to take a massive hit as many of the crew have been laid off and departments and closing. Where are those people going to work? How will they pay their rent?
mortgages? Food? They get nothing while the writers strike and actively shut down productions.

when this strike ends, we will see a lot less of scripted TV and many of those people wonít be able to find work. But phew. As long as we get 12 writers on a single script for Law and Order weíre good!
By that logic, absolutely nobody can ever strike ever, due to knock-on effects. Writers can't strike because it affects cast and crew. Cast can't strike because it affects writers and crew. Crew can't strike because it affects writers and cast. So the studios can be as shitty as they want to all their workers, and the workers just have to take it and not deny their labor, because hey, what about everyone else?

My impression is that pretty much any labor group in Hollywood with a union is supporting the writers strike, because they understand that a strike is something they may all have to at some point to get their own collective bargaining agreements signed. The blame is instead aimed at the studios, who could easily afford what the writers are asking, but don't want to share the massive streaming revenue, instead seeing it as an opportunity to slash writers' income.

Like, you agree that writing is an important job for movie and TV making, right? It's a good and necessary role, that should have talented people doing their best work, right? So, why should it matter if their particular work can be done inside an air conditioned office? And don't they deserve to earn a living wage for the work they do? When writers are on food stamps, that tells me studios aren't paying enough.
https://www.thecut.com/2023/05/im-a-...od-stamps.html
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Again, that smacks of anti-union/pro corp rhetoric: "why are the writers screwing everyone else over" and not "why can't the businesses pay them more?"

I mean striking is I assume written into their collective bargaining agreement and we're trying to shame them to not do it and "think of the little people?"
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

How many union members are outside of NYC and LA? Seems like the employers need to take care of their employees in the two highest cost of living cities Iím aware of.

A small increase in wages is best. I hope they get the modest increase they are asking for. I really have no attachment to the strike. I find myself watching less scripted content and more podcasts etc.

I feel bad for anyone who canít afford a reasonable quality of living. But Iíve always been around people who live paycheck to paycheck. Learning that some people get to vacation and save money etc is a somewhat new concept to me. I think that kind of life is more of an ideal than a realistic outcome.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Gizmo
You mean the same actors who also write?
or the actors who canít work work now because kd
the strike?
Actors, many of whom are not WGA members, joining the picket lines in a show of Solidarity
https://deadline.com/2023/05/actors-...on-1235360627/
https://people.com/tv/rob-lowe-aidy-...a-strike-2023/
https://www.vulture.com/2023/05/writ...s-support.html
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Decker
Actors, many of whom are not WGA members, joining the picket lines in a show of Solidarity..
The People article includes an Instagram post from Kate Corner that touches on what Gizmo wrote, but puts the blame where it belongs: AMPTP:

What a joy showing solidarity with #WGA today! I’m so heartened by the enthusiasm and support. The best was a UPS driver that shouted “Get your money!” at me.

I also spoke with a prop master from Local 44 who pointed out just how many people a strike will effect. The businesses surrounding the studios and any business that contributes to the making of a project will be affected. That goes for restaurants, hotels, lumber yards, many small business and below the line workers. So many livelihoods could be in jeopardy. Let’s keep pushing the AMPTP to compensate workers fairly! #wgastrong #sagaftra #unionstrong

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