Decker

I sure do!

RichC2

I dislike both Fallon and Colbert in their current night time talk show personas. But I weirdly like Seth. Go figure.

DJariya

The staff for all those late night shows can always file for unemployment temporarily. I mean it’s not ideal and is probably not enough to pay all the bills, but it’s something. But that’s cool Fallon is helping them temporarily. Filing for UI is nothing to be embarrassed about. We all who pay taxes pay into it anyway.

JeffTheAlpaca

MrX

House of the Dragon is reportedly not shutting down production since the scripts were finished.

windom

Oh, no. Drew Barrymore has pulled out of hosting the MTV Movie and TV awards this weekend due to the writers' strike. The show will be hostless.
https://deadline.com/2023/05/drew-ba...rs-1235356207/

General Zod

Like we really needed another awards show.

RichC2

Yes, who does MTV think they are creating a brand new Movie and TV award show.

DJariya

Twitter

fujishig

I saw a tweet about the second season of LotR Rings of Power saying that they're going forward but without writers on the set or the showrunner. Is HoD really going to film without a showrunner too? That seems like a recipe for disaster.

Coral

I'm anxiously awaiting The Awardys - an award show for award shows.

Decker

Billy Crystal has won 3 Emmys for hosting the Oscars.

RichC2

When did Rob Schnider win an Emmy?

Gizmo

They expect to get paid forever off an episode of TV they wrote years or decades before. It’s honestly absurd the practice is still around. You did a job, you got paid. If you worker construction on a Jamba Juice location do you also get a cut of the profits?

this strike will last a long time as the demands are pretty crazy. AI and reality shows will replace a lot of them as broadcast is on its way out.

Jay G.

Why not? The studio that made the episode is getting paid forever already, the writers just want a more reasonable cut of that.

The residuals for a TV network rerun and/or syndication are a lot higher. My understanding was that streaming residuals were set so low last contract negotiation because it was a "new" format that was generating only a little bit of revenue. Nowadays, the script has flipped, and TV network revenue is going down the tubes, while streaming revenue is skyrocketing, but writers aren't seeing their fair share of it.

Decker

The Beatles expect to keep getting paid for songs they wrote and recorded 60 years ago?

windom

Most of the streaming services lose money though. Where do the writers think the streamers are gonna get extra money to pay them more?

Decker

Adam Conover was interviewed on CNN yesterday. He pointed out that WBD CEO David Zazlav (whose parent company owns CNN, as he pointed out) made $250M last year, the equivalent of everything the WGA is asking for.

JeffTheAlpaca

That sucks

fujishig

And he made the money (and maybe an even higher increase in his bonus) by cutting a ton of projects and jobs.

Heck, if he pioneered the first sitcom or whatever to be written completely by ChatGPT, he'd get an even bigger raise.

If they successfully weather this strike without a dearth of content he gets an even bigger raise as well.

Coral

Yeah, but the Awardsys is specific to award shows. - not generic TV shows. Much more prestigious.

Has the Emmys ever won an Emmy? Or do the Emmys just implode on itself if that happens?

Decker

The Emmys are quite literally the only shows on broadcast TV that is ineligible for Emmy Award consideration.

General Zod

That where Awardsys will fit right in. The trophy can be be a trophy holding a trophy.

Coral

That, quite honestly, is the most brilliant thing I've ever heard.
For that, you'll be the first recipient of the Honorary Awardsy.

Jay G.

That's largely the fault of the streamers, who are buying more shows and films than they can afford, in the short term, in order to attract/shore up an audience that hopefully sticks around in the long term when they eventually have to start making a profit. If the streamer had to pay more for each show, both upfront and on the backend, maybe there'd be a few less shows coming out, but at least the writers on those shows wouldn't be going on food stamps between seasons.

It's not really a compelling argument that all the workers should suffer because the streamers want a ton of shows, but don't want to pay decent wages and residuals to the people that make them.

I mean, if NBC back in the day started operating at a loss by overspending on product to lure viewers away from ABC and CBS, would anyone think NBC would be justified in paying their writers less to save money?