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Old 09-20-23, 03:02 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...73e828aa12daf1

Looks like the studio CEOs are involved in today's talks.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Good. It's past the time to get serious about negotiating a solution.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/wga...73e828aa12daf1

No deal yet after 3 days of talks. They may negotiate into the weekend.

I know the WGA cynics say to not believe anything you read in the trades unless it's from the WGA themselves.

AI, streaming residuals and the writers rooms minimums are apparently still sticking points if you believe what Variety is reporting.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

"Official" update from the WGA. Negotiations will resume Saturday



I'd love to be a fly on the wall to see what the hell actually goes on in a labor bargaining session like this that takes 3 days.

But, even if they reach a deal tomorrow, it has to be ratified by members. But, considering how long, exhausting and financially draining this whole situation is, I doubt the members will want to hold out even longer.

But, this could have probably been averted if the studio heads actually got involved in the negotiations rather than hand things off to the AMPTP muscle.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/wr...73e828aa12daf1

It appears the WGA strike could be over by the end of the day.
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Old 09-23-23, 04:06 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

That would be great.
I wonder how soon after that the SAG-AFTRA strike gets settled....
Old 09-23-23, 05:22 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Good. I hope more and more strikes happen until labor is paid more to siphon a little off investors (and maybe executives).
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

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That would be great.
I wonder how soon after that the SAG-AFTRA strike gets settled....
If and that's if this gets wrapped this weekend, I'm sure the studios will quickly approach Fran and her team to get something going ASAP.

Everyone is tired of this. Billions have been lost in the local economies and so many are going broke.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

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But, this could have probably been averted if the studio heads actually got involved in the negotiations rather than hand things off to the AMPTP muscle.
AMPTP's sole reason for existence is to handle these contracts and negotiations so that studios and execs don't have to be involved in it. So in that sense, AMPTP failed miserably at their one job this time.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

I mean sure. But, I think most knew this was going to be an extremely difficult and contentious negotiating process. It should have been all hands on deck.
Old 09-23-23, 08:27 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

https://deadline.com/2023/09/writers...se-1235554418/

No answers yet. Apparently the WGA needs to go through the "Final Offer" thoroughly.

Don't read the comments. A lot of assholes and cynics commenting.
Old 09-24-23, 09:13 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Thank God. They've reached a deal



Now it has to be ratified. I can't imagine it won't pass.

It's going to take a few days to be ratified. Most likely by the end of the week. The 1st group to get back to work will be the late night talk shows as they are the easiest to turn around.

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Re: Writers Strike 2023

The WGA announced it. Now it's official.

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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Good to hear!
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by DJariya
https://deadline.com/2023/09/writers...se-1235554418/

No answers yet. Apparently the WGA needs to go through the "Final Offer" thoroughly.

Don't read the comments. A lot of assholes and cynics commenting.
I mean... some of them aren't wrong. A friend of mine isn't going to recover lost wages for the last 5 months and is leaving the industry. This + the lockdown did a lot of damage.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/lat...73e828aa12daf1

Late night talk show could return as soon as early October.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by candyrocket786
I mean... some of them aren't wrong. A friend of mine isn't going to recover lost wages for the last 5 months and is leaving the industry. This + the lockdown did a lot of damage.
There is no question that strikes hurt people and are a "weapon of last resort." There are always individual instances of lost careers and economic hardship. Decades ago people would have died during a strike (although not necessarily in this industry). But the overall effect of union actions like this has been to increase the well being of workers long term. This strike, and the auto workers' strike, are symptoms of the ever-increasing wealth gap. Something had to break, and the jury is still out whether the erosion of the middle class can be reversed. I don't understand the short-sightedness of industries who don't want a workforce that is able to afford their product.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

https://deadline.com/2023/09/2023-24...rn-1235555081/

Network TV programming could be airing by early to mid-March. But, that also depends on how soon the SAG strike is resolved.

And this write up says don't expect any super short episode orders like 6-8. It costs too much money to market shows and that low amount is not worth it with this crammed schedule.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

This is probably a dumb question. But is are late night shows SAG?

Im not craving it. But I kind of miss seeing Colbert clips on YouTube. If I found out he is back on for Monday I’d look forward to that.

Otherwise, there is such a glut of content that I didn’t really miss anything. Crazy it’s been six months.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by DJariya
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/lat...73e828aa12daf1

Late night talk show could return as soon as early October.
Oops. Missed this. I would have assumed someone like Colbert is in SAG.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Troy Stiffler
This is probably a dumb question. But is are late night shows SAG?
It's complicated. Yes, they are SAG-AFTRA, but they're part of the "network code" deal that affects newscasters and such, and thus not part of the current strike.

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/lat...ke-1235733847/
Because talk shows fall under SAG-AFTRA’s network code deal, which isn’t a part of the talent guild’s current strike, that should allow the hosts (who are all on strike as members of the Writers Guild) to come back immediately, or at least after the WGA membership approves the new deal....
Most aren't going to have very many guests at first though, since the actors are still on strike and thus can't promote movies or shows. John Oliver doesn't have guests, so should have an episode out as soon as they fact check their last story (let's hope it wasn't topical!) in case anything changed since they stopped. Colbert could go heavier on political guests. Seth Meyers maybe could lean on comedian friends, promoting stand-up specials and the like.

From the Variety article again:
Some shows have been continuing to book their episodes, with the knowledge that eventually they’ll actually be back in production. Shows that kept their talent boards going have been plotting various versions of guest lists: Some with SAG-AFTRA guests (for when that strike ends), some with non-SAG-AFTRA guests, and in some cases, guest lists of SAG-AFTRA members who are allowed to promote a project that is either not SAG related, or has received a waiver from the guild. Then there are musicians, sports figures, politicians, reality stars, authors, celebrity chefs and other ways to fill the time.

“If you look at all of the shows that have been continuing to run, like ‘CBS Mornings’ or ‘Live with Kelly and Mark’ or the ‘Today’ show, the bookings are good,” one insider noted. “Oprah and Matthew McConaughey and the like are promoting things that have nothing to do with a SAG project.”
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Jay G.
It's complicated. Yes, they are SAG-AFTRA, but they're part of the "network code" deal that affects newscasters and such, and thus not part of the current strike.

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/lat...ke-1235733847/


Most aren't going to have very many guests at first though, since the actors are still on strike and thus can't promote movies or shows. John Oliver doesn't have guests, so should have an episode out as soon as they fact check their last story (let's hope it wasn't topical!) in case anything changed since they stopped. Colbert could go heavier on political guests. Seth Meyers maybe could lean on comedian friends, promoting stand-up specials and the like.
A24 and independent films can be promoted though. And sports stars looking to increase their celebrity profile will never get a better chance to increase their brand awareness.
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And sports stars looking to increase their celebrity profile will never get a better chance to increase their brand awareness.
Yeah, they all can't be shagging Taylor Swift...


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Yeah, they all can't be shagging Taylor Swift...
Jason is married so Tay-Tay had to settle for the second best Kelce brother.
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The WGA leaders approved the deal and the strike is over as of Midnight. Still needs to be ratified. The new contract details are in the link if you’re even remotely interested in reading it.


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