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Old 09-14-23, 12:03 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by DJariya
A few other talk shows aside from Drew like The Talk, Jennifer Hudson and Maher are resuming filming with no writers. The WGA is fuming from the articles I read. I guess they think this undermines their goals going on strike.

I donít recall the WGA being this upset back in 2007-08 when they resumed talk shows with no writers. And these are talk shows. They are quickly dated and assume the writers are just paid whatever their day rates are. Thereís no residuals and back end profits.
I have not seen this confirmed, but I think the difference is that the rules had changed since then regarding that specific genre of tv. I donít know the specifics, so if anyone does, please share.
Old 09-14-23, 01:25 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by DJariya

I donít recall the WGA being this upset back in 2007-08 when they resumed talk shows with no writers. And these are talk shows. They are quickly dated and assume the writers are just paid whatever their day rates are. Thereís no residuals and back end profits.
Yeah, this was standard procedure for talk shows in previous strikes, wonder what changed?
Old 09-14-23, 02:18 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by alfredog1976
Another reason not to watch Bill Maher anymore
Like I needed another.
Old 09-14-23, 03:07 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

I didn't care one way or another about the strikes until I binged the two seasons of Ghosts over the last couple of days. Now I need my Ghosts fix, get cracking on ending the strike.
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Old 09-14-23, 03:36 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Jay G.
I'm actually surprised talk shows have stayed off the air for so long. The last writers strike, the late night talk shows were back on the air, sans writers, about 60 days after the strike started.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect..._by_the_strike
https://laist.com/news/arts-and-ente...writers-strike

I think this time, the double-whammy of both WGA and SAG-AFTRA on strike means that even if they go back, there will be hardly anyone to interview, so even "fluff" interviews are mostly out, so there's no "there" there for a talk show.
There's another reason too. During the last strike, there was apparently a loophole where the hosts could write their own material to perform themselves. This time everything has been clarified that there is no such exemption:

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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Ah that makes sense about the uproar.

Wil Wheaton has been ripping Barrymore and now Maher on his Facebook page about going back to work undermining the writers. While I understand his criticisms, I think it's bordering on obnoxious.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

So it looks like since Maher is going to just do a panel discussion with guests and nothing scripted (not even by him), it's allowed.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

It did not take long after Fallon got criticized his friend Drew Barrymore would get caught up in controversy.
Old 09-15-23, 07:31 AM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Barrymore and Maher are crossing the picket lines, they're scabs. Technically allowed? OK. That doesn't immunize them from criticism.
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Old 09-15-23, 08:20 AM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by stvn1974
I didn't care one way or another about the strikes until I binged the two seasons of Ghosts over the last couple of days. Now I need my Ghosts fix, get cracking on ending the strike.
I mean, have you watched the original UK version of Ghosts?
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Jay G.
I mean, have you watched the original UK version of Ghosts?
Like all other US remakes, the vastly superior show that I am still waiting for MAX to air the latest season.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Jay G.
I mean, have you watched the original UK version of Ghosts?
Wait, have the British gotten funny since Monty Python?
Old 09-15-23, 04:16 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by stvn1974
Wait, have the British gotten funny since Monty Python?
Well, if you like the US version of Ghosts, you should like the UK version.

I watched the UK version first, and so far only the first season of the US version, but the tone and execution is very similar.

And I wouldn't judge the sense of humor of a whole country based on one show, anymore than anyone should judge the sense of humor of the US based on The Big Bang Theory (or insert loathed US sitcom of choice).
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by DJariya
Wil Wheaton has been ripping Barrymore and now Maher on his Facebook page about going back to work undermining the writers. While I understand his criticisms, I think it's bordering on obnoxious.
I used to follow him when he was in his "Be nice. Don't be a dick." stage but now he's exactly what he tells people not to be. It's a shame.

On another note I saw the Drew apology video today.. Do all actors have an unpainted room in their house to appear in with no makeup to issue apologies?
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

I could replace executive decisions with AI.

AI can create ďcontentĒ. But it will never replace good writing.

Executives and a board of directors is more easily replaceable with AI than a writer.

Shareholder expectations can be throttled as part of the algorithm.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Looks like Drew had a change of heart
Old 09-17-23, 01:08 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

https://deadline.com/2023/09/the-tal...sh-1235548871/

The Talk also nixed it's premiere due to the backlash.

But, it says they only have 1 staff writer of a crew of 150.


I get why Drew backtracked. She was receiving a lot of hate comments from her fellow acting community for returning the show to air. If they went on the air and had "good shows" it would undermine the strikes and ultimately would kill her ability to book any guests when the strikes end.. They wouldn't want to be near her.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

How did it work back when Conan and Letterman brought back their shows in 2008? I believe they both paid their writers out of pocket but did they have to reach a special deal I assume?
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Even though she backtracked, I wonder if some will still hold it against her.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by TomOpus
Even though she backtracked, I wonder if some will still hold it against her.
She's not a polarizing celebrity overall. I think she's pretty beloved across the board.

She took her hit on the chin and it'll be forgotten about when the strikes end.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by Mike86
How did it work back when Conan and Letterman brought back their shows in 2008? I believe they both paid their writers out of pocket but did they have to reach a special deal I assume?
Letterman fully owned his own show, and struck a special production deal with the Guild. It also caused a lot of confusion and resentment in the industry, and some people felt it was unfair to strike that deal, because it ended up giving the network content, helping alleviate their pain and potentially making the strike go longer. The guilds are taking a much harder line on making exception deals like that this time, not to mention that none of the current late night hosts owns their show.

Conan's show, I believe, came back under the AFTRA exception that we discussed about 15 posts above your post. Besides closing that loophole this time, I think the WGA has clarified that any activity that would fall under the purview of "writing", even something like Conan's "spinning wedding ring" bit, is prohibited and would not fly this time.
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Old 09-18-23, 11:11 AM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Maher is delaying coming back:

"My decision to return to work was made when it seemed nothing was happening and there was no end in sight to this strike. Now that both sides have agreed to go back to the negotiating table I’m going to delay the return of Real Time, for now, and hope they can finally get this done."
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/wg...m_term=6431290

The WGA and studios will resume negotiations on Wednesday.

Hopefully they will be committed to getting something done this time.
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Originally Posted by dex14
Maher is delaying coming back:

"My decision to return to work was made when it seemed nothing was happening and there was no end in sight to this strike. Now that both sides have agreed to go back to the negotiating table Iím going to delay the return of Real Time, for now, and hope they can finally get this done."
lol translation "I got so much shit for being a scab, so here's a rational cover story to explain why I'm changing my mind."
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Old 09-18-23, 11:17 PM
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Re: Writers Strike 2023

Dancing with the Stars has 1 staff WGA writer and employs over 500 people. Apparently it's a "Struck show" according to the WGA and writer David Slack seems to think anyone who goes to work on it is scabbing.


There is a few posts from him in this thread.

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