Writers Strike 2023
#601
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Tangentially related, actors share their residual checks:
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/11903...-sag-aftra-wga
The existing residuals for streaming are pathetic. If a streaming service can't survive paying more than mere pennies for residuals, then it doesn't deserve to survive.
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/11903...-sag-aftra-wga
Mandy Moore, who starred as matriarch Rebecca Pearson in NBC's This Is Us, said she received streaming residual checks for a penny once and 81 cents another time. "So you have to, like, let them add up for a while before you go deposit them at the bank," she said in an interview while on the picket line.
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Kamil McFadden, who starred on three seasons of Disney's K.C. Undercover, tweeted a screen recording of his residuals, several of which had negative dollar amounts. He said his net income from the list was $2.77.
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Jana Schmieding, who played Bev on FX's Reservation Dogs, said she gets a 3-cent residual every quarter for the show being streamed on Hulu. "Listen, I'm an actor. I don't want a yacht. But I'd love to be able to save for retirement," she tweeted.
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Kamil McFadden, who starred on three seasons of Disney's K.C. Undercover, tweeted a screen recording of his residuals, several of which had negative dollar amounts. He said his net income from the list was $2.77.
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Jana Schmieding, who played Bev on FX's Reservation Dogs, said she gets a 3-cent residual every quarter for the show being streamed on Hulu. "Listen, I'm an actor. I don't want a yacht. But I'd love to be able to save for retirement," she tweeted.
#602
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Re: Writers Strike 2023
What could be the reason for a negative check? overpayment?
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The issue is studios have started bundling residuals with payment. So you’ll get a paycheck of, say, $50k but that includes an assumed one year of residuals, based off projections. If you don’t make that amount of residuals, guess what! You owe that money back. Studios have started doing this to make it seem like they’re paying creatives more when actually paying them less because their first check is bigger and later checks are less.
#605
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Came out at the end of March 31, 2006; discontinued March 28, 2008.
And, considering how many HD-DVDs rotted in short order, it's for the best that it died a quick death.
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I still have a brand new Toshiba A3 sealed in the box with two HD-DVDs inside. It was a backup player.
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Well it's a good thing I never got into HD-DVD then. I have all my shows and favorite films on Streaming Services that I can watch forever without worry about Rot, Scratches, or Storage....
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Tangentially related, actors share their residual checks:
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/11903...-sag-aftra-wga
The existing residuals for streaming are pathetic. If a streaming service can't survive paying more than mere pennies for residuals, then it doesn't deserve to survive.
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/11903...-sag-aftra-wga
The existing residuals for streaming are pathetic. If a streaming service can't survive paying more than mere pennies for residuals, then it doesn't deserve to survive.
AFAIK, reading that article, it doesn't mention what show she received the residual check from, as she was in a lot of things. What if it was for an episode of The Andy Dick show from 2001 that aired in some random Country at 2am? How much should she receive for that?Residuals are getting tougher and tougher and cable networks are no longer really buying TV shows anymore as they all got out of original programming so they just air Law and Order, TBBT, etc. over and over. DVD and Blu-ray sales fell off a cliff. Lots of times those shows would be sold to foreign territories but now they produce their own content. The whole syndication game is gone. Cable networks banked money on assumed ratings for those shows, and paid appropriately. When they failed, the shows were pulled fast (Friday Night Lights, as an example, lasted a few weeks before it was yanked)
How much should she get from a show streaming? You pay $15 to Netflix and you watch 100 episodes of SUITS, how do you split up that money between a dozen main cast members and thousands of guests and small time actors? How far does your $15 go? I'm sure more transparent viewing data would be nice, but what about those who watch 2 minutes and opt out. Do they get the full pay? If I was a guest actor on Season 5 episode 2, and 1,000 people watched it on the month of July, how much do you think I should get as a residual?
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#619
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The studios are the rich and the union is composed of the people that actually makes the products that make the studio money. It's easy to pick a side in this one. I hope the creators get most of the money. The talentless can consider themselves fortunate to make a good living off of the backs of others.
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#620
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You may disagree with single demands, but putting the whole agenda of unions in question only shows that you're not only ignorant to the present, but to the past. Without unions hard labor would still just be a fast way to dying early.
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#621
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The studios will use this strike as an excuse to cancel many projects they didn't think were working in development.
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#622
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You’re literally on the side of big studio corporations over working-class people.
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#623
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To wit, the Entertainment Community Fund takes donations that they then give as assistance to eligible entertainment workers, including crew:
https://entertainmentcommunity.org/h...-work-stoppage
But he doesn't actually care, he's exploiting them in a way they don't even agree with to make a weak-ass argument in favor of studio exploitation.
#624
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https://www.streamtvinsider.com/onli...g-rights-to-us
Do you think Mandy Moore only deserves 81 cents of that $3.5 million?
AFAIK, reading that article, it doesn't mention what show she received the residual check from, as she was in a lot of things. What if it was for an episode of The Andy Dick show from 2001 that aired in some random Country at 2am? How much should she receive for that?[/quote]
Tracing back to the source article, it explicitly says it was residuals for This is Us:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...ke-1235538930/
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/sui...ar-1235675548/
Also, do you really think streaming services like Netflix don't know how much a show is earning them? They pay millions for rights, and have recently been dropping underperforming shows left-and-right. This whole "oh it's too hard to calculate revenue" argument is BS. It's not something us laypeople can just drop into a simple formula, but it's a lie to suggest the streaming services can't calculate it.
Not to mention the writers and actors aren't asking for revenue sharing, they're asking for residuals, which are a known upfront cost. This means, when a studio licenses a show to a streaming service, they know exactly how much they have to license it for to, at least, break even, and they're often licensing for WAY about that, even on the new residual terms. As I've stated before, this isn't remotely a "studios will go broke and won't be able to afford to produce any shows" situation even if they met all the demands. It's more of a "studios won't be able to report as insane profits as previously for streaming shows," and maybe "streaming services cut back on the number of films/shows they order to something sane."
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