Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > TV Talk
Reload this Page >

The Mandalorian: Chapter 3: The Sin (S1E3) - 11/22/19

Community
Search
TV Talk Talk about Shows on TV

The Mandalorian: Chapter 3: The Sin (S1E3) - 11/22/19

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-26-19 | 07:28 PM
  #101  
Abob Teff's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 34,318
Received 2,080 Likes on 1,412 Posts
From: Not necessarily Formerly known as Solid Snake
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

So ... when asked about the baby Yoda toys, a Disney rep replied “I am Groot.”
Old 11-27-19 | 08:37 AM
  #102  
VinVega's Avatar
Admin
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 36,107
Received 561 Likes on 364 Posts
From: Behind enemy lines
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I can sort of see what you're getting at.

As I see it, Star Wars (as a whole) has always been more about world-building than character development. So by showing us new things and taking us to new places is what makes The Mandalorian good Star Wars. The characters serve the world and aren't ends in and of themselves, if that makes sense. Overly complex characters don't necessarily serve Star Wars well, as they might in other stories.

That's what has turned me off the sequel trilogy so much. It's too busy trying to do clever things with the characters, both new and legacy, that it's not really serving the greater Star Wars universe. So someone can look at the way Luke was handled in TLJ, and think it's really interesting, but when I look it, it feels like the writers are trying too hard to challenge the audience, and harming the greater universe and the greater story in the process.

That said, I think Mando is a fairly interesting character. We're only three episodes in (about an hour and a half) and we've already seen that he has divided loyalties with his own people and has broken the bounty hunter code to correct what he sees as a moral wrong. It's nothing terribly complicated, but it works well within in the context of the Star Wars universe.
Great take. Mando's past also plays a part here as we continue to see flashbacks to when he lost his original family. So there's some complexity to him and there is a lot of mystery that may or may not be revealed in a later episode. I'm not sure Greef Carga's (Carl Weathers) character is cut and dry either.
Old 11-27-19 | 11:26 AM
  #103  
Brack's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 10,011
Received 63 Likes on 40 Posts
From: near Cincinnati
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

So apparently the show’s HDR is fake, I guess?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019...nalysis-finds/

Show looks good to me. I dunno.
Old 11-27-19 | 05:48 PM
  #104  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,692
Received 38 Likes on 29 Posts
From: Illinois
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Yea just like every other thing Disney does video and audio quality wise. No shocker.
Old 11-27-19 | 06:03 PM
  #105  
Mike86's Avatar
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 25,741
Received 1,413 Likes on 1,089 Posts
From: South Dakota
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Kind of feels like there’s not much to complain about with the show so let’s dig for something to rag on it for. The show looks fine to me.
Old 11-27-19 | 06:06 PM
  #106  
DJariya's Avatar
DVD Talk God
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 87,400
Received 6,100 Likes on 4,113 Posts
From: La Palma, CA
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Originally Posted by Mike86
Kind of feels like there’s not much to complain about with the show so let’s dig for something to rag on it for. The show looks fine to me.
Yea who the hell cares if the HDR is supposedly not real or up to some videophiles proper standards? It looked fine to me on my 4K TV.

I think there's just some people out there who need to find something wrong with this property otherwise their life is incomplete because they can't be that keyboard tough guy and tear it apart.

Last edited by DJariya; 11-27-19 at 06:30 PM.
Old 11-27-19 | 06:10 PM
  #107  
Brack's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 10,011
Received 63 Likes on 40 Posts
From: near Cincinnati
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Apparently it’s a common thing on Disney Plus.

I do think it’s silly to slap HDR onto something when it’s not. Just don’t label it HDR then. Just makes you second guess when your HDR badge pops up if it really means anything.
Old 11-27-19 | 10:06 PM
  #108  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,692
Received 38 Likes on 29 Posts
From: Illinois
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

It's not silly , it degrades the picture quality. If you're to clueless to notice good for you. The movies are all the same way really. But 200 nits when HDR is 1000 nits , 5 times lower than is should be is a little much kills colors and shadow detail. Mike probably has shit 4k set that barely does 300 nits anyway lol.
Old 11-27-19 | 10:19 PM
  #109  
Mike86's Avatar
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 25,741
Received 1,413 Likes on 1,089 Posts
From: South Dakota
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Originally Posted by hdtv00
It's not silly , it degrades the picture quality. If you're to clueless to notice good for you. The movies are all the same way really. But 200 nits when HDR is 1000 nits , 5 times lower than is should be is a little much kills colors and shadow detail. Mike probably has shit 4k set that barely does 300 nits anyway lol.
Ummm okay? I don’t have 4K at all yet, but you’re so cool trying to act like a display snob. My point was more centered around the fact that the show is good and that it feels like this is looking for a reason to complain about it since there aren’t many actual complaints about the show itself in terms of characterization or the episodes so far. Could it probably look better? Sure, but it’s not atrociously bad looking or anything. If it’s not actually true 4K I agree it shouldn’t be labeled as such, but it seems like a pretty petty thing to try and ding the show for.
Old 11-27-19 | 10:26 PM
  #110  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,692
Received 38 Likes on 29 Posts
From: Illinois
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

How is it any different than you with no 4k hdr set saying who cares, everyone making big deal over nothing.....And you can't even tell how it looks , you don't have 4k hdr so the issue you can't even tell how it looks in a broken fake HDR container.
Old 11-27-19 | 10:48 PM
  #111  
Mike86's Avatar
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 25,741
Received 1,413 Likes on 1,089 Posts
From: South Dakota
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Originally Posted by hdtv00
How is it any different than you with no 4k hdr set saying who cares, everyone making big deal over nothing.....And you can't even tell how it looks , you don't have 4k hdr so the issue you can't even tell how it looks in a broken fake HDR container.
I’m just saying that it comes across as a complaint for the sake of finding something to complain about. I can tell how it looks from my current setup and it isn’t bad so I can’t imagine it looking that much worse on a better tv.
Old 11-27-19 | 11:08 PM
  #112  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,692
Received 38 Likes on 29 Posts
From: Illinois
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Ok Guy keep telling us how it looks on a tv you don't have lol. It looks normal on your tv because it's not being told to be in HDR mode. Look dude you don't get it no big deal. Just watch the video about it. It explains what's wrong with the picture because of it.

Now to complain about something for the sake of complaining. Jesus what's with the run times jesus.
Old 11-28-19 | 09:07 AM
  #113  
Brack's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 10,011
Received 63 Likes on 40 Posts
From: near Cincinnati
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

I regret bringing it up. Sorry folks.
Old 11-28-19 | 11:56 AM
  #114  
Deftones's Avatar
DVD Talk God
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 83,704
Received 2,079 Likes on 1,402 Posts
From: Arizona
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Originally Posted by Mike86
I’m just saying that it comes across as a complaint for the sake of finding something to complain about. I can tell how it looks from my current setup and it isn’t bad so I can’t imagine it looking that much worse on a better tv.
I haven't voice my opinions, but I thought all 3 eps were far too dark. I'm wondering if that has to do with the fake HDR stuff. I'm going to turn it off to see how it looks.
Old 11-28-19 | 04:55 PM
  #115  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 6,444
Received 286 Likes on 195 Posts
From: Houston, TX
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Maybe when I get around to rewatching the episodes on my TV, then I'll care about the HDR thing. For now my S9+ /Jabra set do the trick. Maybe I'll live dangerously and get a S10 Note this week.
Old 11-28-19 | 06:45 PM
  #116  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,692
Received 38 Likes on 29 Posts
From: Illinois
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Originally Posted by Deftones
I haven't voice my opinions, but I thought all 3 eps were far too dark. I'm wondering if that has to do with the fake HDR stuff. I'm going to turn it off to see how it looks.
Yea that's part of the whole issue. It forces HDR on , you can't turn off HDR on a set. It see's its HDR it goes into HDR mode. WHich is why it's such a big issue when its told to be HDR but is only mastered in SDR. It washes out the picture big time and screws up the colors. Makes it look dull. And all because Disney is lazy. Even the movies aren't full HDR but at least the HDR on the movies is nearly 4 times what it is on Mando for whatever reason. It's 200 nits vs 700 nits for the movies.

If you have a non HDR tv it never goes into fake HDR mode so you can't tell , it isn't washed out.
Old 11-29-19 | 04:23 PM
  #117  
Abob Teff's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 34,318
Received 2,080 Likes on 1,412 Posts
From: Not necessarily Formerly known as Solid Snake
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Originally Posted by Deftones
I haven't voice my opinions, but I thought all 3 eps were far too dark. I'm wondering if that has to do with the fake HDR stuff. I'm going to turn it off to see how it looks.
I tried it. But when I turned my TV off, it was just a black screen.

(It was like I was watching The Walking Dead.)
Old 11-30-19 | 11:42 AM
  #118  
Banned
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 20,052
Received 169 Likes on 127 Posts
From: Conducting miss-aisle drills and listening to their rock n roll
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

This picture quality argument is prime DVDTalk! Reminds me of people with 4x3 TVs arguing about “full screen”.
Old 11-30-19 | 12:17 PM
  #119  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 14,448
Likes: 0
Received 294 Likes on 223 Posts
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Brought me right back to the good old days of DVDTalk.
Old 11-30-19 | 01:24 PM
  #120  
Michael Corvin's Avatar
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 63,465
Received 1,377 Likes on 943 Posts
From: Louisville, KY
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Originally Posted by Maxflier
I don't think expecting 44'ish minutes for an episode of a drama series is asking too much.
Originally Posted by Cusm
I do not mind shorter episodes, but 20-32 minutes is a little on the light side.
It's one character though...and one that doesn't talk at that. Game of Thrones has two dozen characters and stories to tackle per episode. That makes it much easier to pull off an hour of material.

Originally Posted by story
A lot of fun. This episode struck me that this series so far really plays out like a video game.

Level #1 - Pick up your blue gill bounty, get paid, get upgrades.
Level #2 - Pick up your yoda baby bounty, get paid, get upgrades.
Level #3 - Go back for the yoda baby bounty, get XP.
You forgot the Egg fetch quest and trade for ship parts. Rogue One also had similar mechanics (go here get this item, take item over there and push button 1, now run across battlefield to activate button 2, etc. RO also had the platforming bit near the end.

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
So ... when asked about the baby Yoda toys, a Disney rep replied “I am Groot.”
I heard Favreau nixed the toys because it would have spoiled the show, since toys go into production months before it would have aired.
Old 12-01-19 | 05:49 PM
  #121  
GoldenJCJ's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 32,830
Received 4,877 Likes on 3,049 Posts
From: Colorado
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I heard Favreau nixed the toys because it would have spoiled the show, since toys go into production months before it would have aired.
I have a hard time believing this. If there’s one thing Disney doesn’t do its leave money on the table. Even at the expense of spoilers.
Old 12-01-19 | 06:00 PM
  #122  
Banned
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 20,052
Received 169 Likes on 127 Posts
From: Conducting miss-aisle drills and listening to their rock n roll
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

I have an easy time believing it because at this moment there is currently zero licensed baby Yoda merch. Save for the t-shirt they just put out.
Old 12-01-19 | 08:20 PM
  #123  
GoldenJCJ's Avatar
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 32,830
Received 4,877 Likes on 3,049 Posts
From: Colorado
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Originally Posted by Mabuse
I have an easy time believing it because at this moment there is currently zero licensed baby Yoda merch. Save for the t-shirt they just put out.
Ok, so now that Baby Yoda is out of the bag why haven’t they started releasing the merchandise for Christmas? Has all powerful Favreau said no Baby Yodas until the new year?
Old 12-01-19 | 09:36 PM
  #124  
Michael Corvin's Avatar
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 63,465
Received 1,377 Likes on 943 Posts
From: Louisville, KY
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

You realize it takes more than three weeks to design and mass produce merchandise and get it on store shelves, right?

I think we're looking at early 2020 at a minimum.
Old 12-01-19 | 09:37 PM
  #125  
Mike86's Avatar
Thread Starter
DVD Talk Hero
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 25,741
Received 1,413 Likes on 1,089 Posts
From: South Dakota
Re: The Mandalorian: Chapter 3 (S1E3)- 11/22/19

Stuff takes time to produce. It's a lot easier coming up with a shirt design and getting a bunch printed up versus making toys. They'll probably try and have toys out by the time The Rise of Skywalker hits home media if I had to guess.


Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.