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Old 11-23-22 | 02:10 AM
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Was this the original Twilight Zone?
Yes

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Old 11-23-22 | 11:18 AM
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I was a day behind. Congrats to Amy. She was the clear co-favorite (w/ Matt) coming into this tournament, but that was a really terrific set of games between Amy, Andrew, and Sam. I am disappointed that Andrew's last name only response of Johnson was ruled incorrect instead of could you be more specific. I don't know if he would have known the first name, but it more than made up the difference between he and Amy going into Final Jeopardy and would have meant a different winner if he had.
Old 11-24-22 | 06:59 PM
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This Chris guy is very good.
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Old 11-25-22 | 06:07 AM
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Re: Jeopardy! Discussion

Originally Posted by movieguru
This one was probably the most watched tournament of champions run in all of Jeopardy except for maybe the one that Ken Jennings competed in.
Ken actually never competed in a regular ToC. He instead played in the Ultimate Tournament of Champions, where he was seeded right into the Finals. That was also the first time he was beaten by Rutter, who would do that in every tournament afterwards until the GOAT.

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Amy's FJ bid was a bit puzzling. She only need to wager $12,801 to be ahead of Andrew should he bet it all and get it right, but she bet $13,000 instead. The extra was unnecessary since she wouldn't win the final amount, and that extra amount could have potentially caused her to lose the game.
It was just a matter of using the next even number. I don't see any situation where that extra 199 makes a difference. If she got it wrong and the others got it right, no matter what she would lose. If everyone got it wrong, she loses because Andrew only needs to bet enough to cover Amy's total going into FJ.

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Old 11-25-22 | 06:19 AM
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Actually, Andrew's wager would have been enough to cover Amy's pre-FJ total AND Sam correct with an all-in wager. So he actually bet 1,000 more than he needed to (he needed 1,801, he wagered 2,801). While that extra 1,000 wouldn't make a difference, that one is more curious since it's not an even number.
Old 12-07-22 | 01:51 PM
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This still cracks me up.
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Old 12-07-22 | 09:01 PM
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Pleasure seeker, not pleasure giver, Ken!
Old 12-08-22 | 09:48 AM
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Pleasure seeker, not pleasure giver, Ken!
I aways felt that his response should have been correct as well. The writers of the clue would have known that the response of "hoe" was very likely. It was what I thought of when I heard the clue as well. Probably most viewers thought the same thing as well.

Here's the definition when you google the term:

Hoe means a sexually promiscuous female. It is a misspelling of ho, which is an abbreviation for whore, a derogatory term for a prostitute.
Old 12-08-22 | 10:34 AM
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It almost seems like they were ready to have a new champion, so they devised a question with two possible answers, and then made sure that whatever he answered was the wrong one. I would have also said "hoe/ho".
Old 12-08-22 | 10:56 AM
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It almost seems like they were ready to have a new champion, so they devised a question with two possible answers, and then made sure that whatever he answered was the wrong one. I would have also said "hoe/ho".
It wasn't a final Jeopardy question, just a $400 one. It was never going to dethrone the King. I figure Ken knew the correct answer but at that point was rich enough to blow $400 on saying the word "Hoe" on television and get a laugh. Totally worth it.
But yeah, there's no way the writers didn't see that response coming potentially.
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Just watched Tuesday's game. Cris was a great champion, but I was more than ready for someone new. The daily curb stomp runaway games get old.
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Old 12-08-22 | 11:41 AM
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Just watched Tuesday's game. Cris was a great champion, but I was more than ready for someone new. The daily curb stomp runaway games get old.
He missed a Double Jeopardy Daily Double clue which cost him the game. For him to lose, it had to be a combination of missing the first Double Jeopardy Daily Double and not getting Final Jeopardy correct. Most of the time he had enough going into FJ to get it wrong and still win. But missing the one Daily Double meant that he most likely would need to get FJ correct to remain champion. Law of averages, a player that bets big on the Daily Doubles is going to lose out fairly soon. It's going to be near impossible for anyone to ever top Ken's consecutive winning streak.
Old 12-08-22 | 07:04 PM
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Re: Jeopardy! Discussion

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I aways felt that his response should have been correct as well. The writers of the clue would have known that the response of "hoe" was very likely. It was what I thought of when I heard the clue as well. Probably most viewers thought the same thing as well.
Yeah, "rake" in that context is kind of an obscure word.

The only reason I would have gotten the question right is because of the Pogues song "The Rake at the Gates of Hell," and that Garth Ennis' final storyline on the Hellblazer comic was also called "The Rake at the Gates of Hell," in a nod to that same song.

And there was also a character called "The Rake," in Clive Barker's Weaveworld novel, but I don't think I bothered looking the word up when I read that book back in junior high, but made the connection later.

Most people would have thought "Hoe" first.

Old 12-08-22 | 07:07 PM
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Tonight's Final Jeopardy clue seemed like it would have been easy for all three of them to get it correct, but none of them got it right. Oddly though, all of their responses had the first two letters correct.
Old 12-08-22 | 07:14 PM
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Re: Jeopardy! Discussion

Originally Posted by movieguru
Tonight's Final Jeopardy clue seemed like it would have been easy for all three of them to get it correct, but none of them got it right. Oddly though, all of their responses had the first two letters correct.
I was pretty surprised. I'm pretty sure I would've known the answer for any two of the three clues they provided, but the cocktail clue was a dead giveaway.
Old 12-08-22 | 08:34 PM
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I was pretty surprised. I'm pretty sure I would've known the answer for any two of the three clues they provided, but the cocktail clue was a dead giveaway.
The combination of the drink and the island made it very easy. It was the first thing I thought of with those two from the list. The only thing that could have thrown someone off was the wordier explanation for the WWII venture. That and the first two can just be referred to as "Manhattan" while the third one would always have the word "Project" added to it. "Island" isn't necessary when referring to the island of Manhattan.
Old 12-09-22 | 08:38 PM
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Great job slipping an H&R Block clue in while Ken was hosting.
Old 12-10-22 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by movieguru
The combination of the drink and the island made it very easy. It was the first thing I thought of with those two from the list. The only thing that could have thrown someone off was the wordier explanation for the WWII venture. That and the first two can just be referred to as "Manhattan" while the third one would always have the word "Project" added to it. "Island" isn't necessary when referring to the island of Manhattan.
I thought the WWII part was a dead giveaway. When I saw that part, I instantly thought of Manhattan project, so didn't really have to think of some island/cocktail combo on its own. But I guess not that easy, as no one got it. I thought the previous day's final Jeopardy was also pretty easy about the US Presidents, and yet no one got that either. I doubt someone like Cris misses either one.
Old 12-10-22 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by John Galt
Great job slipping an H&R Block clue in while Ken was hosting.
Is there some connection between Block and Ken Jennings?

I was familiar with the word rake. Hogarth did a famous series of prints called A Rake's Progress. I watched that episode and I thought that Ken knew the answer and that he said "hoe" as a deliberate joke.
Old 12-10-22 | 09:17 AM
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Is there some connection between Block and Ken Jennings?
Yes.

When Ken was first on, his winning streak was broken by a Final Jeopardy question that was something to the effect of "This business is only in the black one month out of the year."

Ken answered H&R Block. The correct answer was Toys R Us, which I knew. Or, was at least able to make an educated guess on. He lost the game and broke his winning streak.


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Yes.

When Ken was first on, his winning streak was broken by a Final Jeopardy question that was something to the effect of "This business is only in the black one month out of the year."

Ken answered H&R Block. The correct answer was Toys R Us, which I knew. Or, was at least able to make an educated guess on. He lost the game and broke his winning streak.
Ken's response was Fed Ex. The correct response was H&R Block.
Old 12-10-22 | 05:07 PM
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The Final Jeopardy! category was Business & Industry, and the clue was "Most of this firm's 70,000 seasonal white-collar employees work only four months a year." Jennings appeared perplexed during the time allowed to write a response, while Zerg finished her response quickly. Zerg responded correctly with "What is H&R Block?" and wagered $4,401 of her $10,000, giving her a $1 lead over Jennings with his response still to be revealed. Jennings incorrectly responded with "What is FedEx?" and lost the game with a final score of $8,799 after his $5,601 wager was deducted from his score.
I was misremembering from another bit of trivia.

I do remember getting it correct, though, as the "four months" was sort of a giveaway.
Old 01-17-23 | 10:17 AM
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The Final Jeopardy clue was a bit misleading on Monday night's game.

The clue was: "These were first sold in 1908 at a price equivilent to about $27,000 today.

The correct solution they wanted was "The Model T Ford". By using the word "These" rather than "This" seemed to illicit that they wanted a generic product category as a response rather than a specific brand and model. I would have answered "What is the first mass produced automobile". Somebody said "cars" and was deemed incorrect. Ken said the correct response was "What is the Ford Model T" which is singular and not plural as the clue suggested.
Old 01-17-23 | 02:02 PM
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It was a very vague clue, that's for sure. It also says something when the other two contestants both thought along the same lines with their responses of Bonds and T Bills. Regardless, the contestant with "Cars" still won the game, so the only thing affected was the dollar totals.
Old 01-17-23 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by John Galt
It was a very vague clue, that's for sure. It also says something when the other two contestants both thought along the same lines with their responses of Bonds and T Bills. Regardless, the contestant with "Cars" still won the game, so the only thing affected was the dollar totals.
I don't know where they got Treasury bills out of the clue, but more than one had it, so it wasn't as off the wall a response as I thought it was when they revealed the first person's response.

When I hear the clue and the year 1908, I knew they were referencing the Model T Ford, but I would have assumed they wanted the more generic response of car or automobile.

One thing that makes it confusing is the category title "Business Milestones". If it was "Corporate Milestones" or "Company Milestones" then a more specific response of "Model T Ford" would have made sense. This one should have been thought through more by the producers as they should have known that "cars" would have been a very likely (and technically still correct) response.

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