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Old 10-06-13 | 01:52 PM
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I've never understood Coulson's popularity. He was cool as a supporting character in Captain America and since has become a minor character with way too much screen time in Marvel's films.
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
I've never understood Coulson's popularity. He was cool as a supporting character in Captain America and since has become a minor character with way too much screen time in Marvel's films.
He wasn't in Captain America.
Old 10-06-13 | 05:25 PM
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The problem is that Coulson works great at what essentially comes across as a blue collar 9 to 5 spy. He shows up, does his job and that's it. It's amusing in that he seems so "just another Tuesday" about his job. Unfortunately, that's not enough to sustain a character as the lead of his own show. He's amusing but not genuinely interesting.
Old 10-06-13 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
The problem is that Coulson works great at what essentially comes across as a blue collar 9 to 5 spy. He shows up, does his job and that's it. It's amusing in that he seems so "just another Tuesday" about his job. Unfortunately, that's not enough to sustain a character as the lead of his own show. He's amusing but not genuinely interesting.
Main reason I quit on the show.

After him, the next male central figure is Ward who has the physicality and masculinity of Sheldon Cooper.

There just isn't anyone for me to root for. I hate to make an Arrow comparison, but you have Ollie and Digg as male central figures that pretty much anyone can find something to root for in them.

I just don't know why Marvel just didn't take one of their superheroes who was never going to get his own movie and just roll with that.
Old 10-06-13 | 06:26 PM
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I just don't know why Marvel just didn't take one of their superheroes who was never going to get his own movie and just roll with that.
I think their licensing -- internal AND external -- is just way too restrictive at the moment. It looks like anyone who is a mutant (except maybe Franklin Richards) gets allocated to Fox for XMen. Anyone related to the FF or the Silver Surfer except evidently or Thanos gets allocated to FF. Anyone related to Spider-Man gets allocated to Spider-Man. Anything else gets allocated to The Avengers and they're really paranoid about using the things that remain there. Hell I think I heard even Namor is optioned somewhere.

Ghost Rider probably would have made for a hell of a cable 13 episode a season series (as would The Punisher). For something on the lighter/younger side, I seem to recall a group called something like The New Warriors with some Batman-like black guy, Firestar from the old Spider-Man cartoon, and I want to say Speedball in it. That could have probably slotted into this slot fairly well budget inclusive.

ETA: Having a show that is about some set of superheroes that Coulson drops in on four or five times a year would feel a lot more organic than what we have now.
Old 10-06-13 | 09:27 PM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "0-8-4" -- 10/01/13

Originally Posted by Jimmy James
I think their licensing -- internal AND external -- is just way too restrictive at the moment. It looks like anyone who is a mutant (except maybe Franklin Richards) gets allocated to Fox for XMen. Anyone related to the FF or the Silver Surfer except evidently or Thanos gets allocated to FF. Anyone related to Spider-Man gets allocated to Spider-Man. Anything else gets allocated to The Avengers and they're really paranoid about using the things that remain there. Hell I think I heard even Namor is optioned somewhere.

Ghost Rider probably would have made for a hell of a cable 13 episode a season series (as would The Punisher). For something on the lighter/younger side, I seem to recall a group called something like The New Warriors with some Batman-like black guy, Firestar from the old Spider-Man cartoon, and I want to say Speedball in it. That could have probably slotted into this slot fairly well budget inclusive.

ETA: Having a show that is about some set of superheroes that Coulson drops in on four or five times a year would feel a lot more organic than what we have now.

Frankin Richards Is with Fox, since he's part of FF.
Old 10-06-13 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by thelwig14
Main reason I quit on the show.

After him, the next male central figure is Ward who has the physicality and masculinity of Sheldon Cooper.

There just isn't anyone for me to root for. I hate to make an Arrow comparison, but you have Ollie and Digg as male central figures that pretty much anyone can find something to root for in them.

I just don't know why Marvel just didn't take one of their superheroes who was never going to get his own movie and just roll with that.
Paging Daredevil. Paging Daredevil.
Old 10-06-13 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by robin2099
Paging Daredevil. Paging Daredevil.
Hey just because you have managed to forget that terrible film doesn't mean it didn't exist.
Old 10-07-13 | 01:00 AM
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There are lots characters they could use. Current comics, Secret Avengers and Indestructible Hulk have Shield employing superheroes on missions. Mockingbird, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Drew (Spider Woman), Taskmaster and Daisy Johnson are characters that I'd have liked to see on this show. Even with the references to the movies it doesn't feel close enough to the MCU to me. I think they should've kept Coulson dead.
Old 10-07-13 | 10:49 AM
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Luke Cage and Iron Fist would be great.

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Old 10-07-13 | 11:13 AM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "0-8-4" -- 10/01/13

is 084 their Neilson rating?
Old 10-07-13 | 11:16 AM
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D -- "0-8-4" -- 10/01/13

Can the people who post negative things about the show post if they think The Dark Knight Rises is a good film so I can ignore all of their future posts in this thread? Thanks.
Old 10-07-13 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by actionjackson29
There are lots characters they could use. Current comics, Secret Avengers and Indestructible Hulk have Shield employing superheroes on missions. Mockingbird, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Drew (Spider Woman), Taskmaster and Daisy Johnson are characters that I'd have liked to see on this show. Even with the references to the movies it doesn't feel close enough to the MCU to me. I think they should've kept Coulson dead.
Like I said before, if/when they bring in Marvel characters, no matter how minor, that's when the fanbase will get up in arms, because hey, Stilt Man is a sacred character (to someone) and you can't mess with him. I think they did a decent job introducing characters that have no comic affiliation, just so fanboys aren't always expecting some Avengers subplot from 1982 to surface.

Now making those characters interesting, that's a whole other story.

Personally, I'd love Iron Fist and Luke Cage (though Cage is a big part of the comic Avengers plus he's a key to the diversity that comics usually lack), because their powers won't break the bank, plus they're already on a current cartoon. I'm not sure they'd do them justice in this show, though.

Now if they cast, say, a Carol Danvers for the movies and put it in the contract to have her on the show, that's all well and good.
Old 10-07-13 | 12:54 PM
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Can the people who post negative things about the show post if they think The Dark Knight Rises is a good film so I can ignore all of their future posts in this thread? Thanks.
TDKR is incredibly flawed and TDK, though good, is grossly overrated. If that lands me on your ignore list, so be it.
Old 10-07-13 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
TDKR is incredibly flawed and TDK, though good, is grossly overrated. If that lands me on your ignore list, so be it.
I think that lands you on the A-OK list. Unless you don't like S.H.I.E.L.D.
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
I think that lands you on the A-OK list. Unless you don't like S.H.I.E.L.D.
I don't like Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Sure, the second episode was 90's decent but the pilot was absolute shit. So I guess I'm straddling the fence?
Old 10-07-13 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fujishig
Like I said before, if/when they bring in Marvel characters, no matter how minor, that's when the fanbase will get up in arms, because hey, Stilt Man is a sacred character (to someone) and you can't mess with him. I think they did a decent job introducing characters that have no comic affiliation, just so fanboys aren't always expecting some Avengers subplot from 1982 to surface.
Gravitron will be on tomorrow's episode.
Old 10-07-13 | 02:00 PM
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He wasn't in Captain America.
Marvel's movies are all starting to be a blur for me.
Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni
Gravitron will be on tomorrow's episode.
I hope you mean Graviton, the Avengers' villain. If the show calls him Gravitron, Disney decided to license the Transformers from Hasbro.
Old 10-07-13 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
I hope you mean Graviton, the Avengers' villain. If the show calls him Gravitron, Disney decided to license the Transformers from Hasbro.
Oops, lol. Yeah, that's what I meant.
Old 10-07-13 | 02:11 PM
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Marvel's movies are all starting to be a blur for me.

I hope you mean Graviton, the Avengers' villain. If the show calls him Gravitron, Disney decided to license the Transformers from Hasbro.
Gravitron is an amusement park ride, Graviton is a ship from Transformers.
Old 10-07-13 | 02:24 PM
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Gravitron is an amusement park ride, Graviton is a ship from Transformers.
So Marvel needs to sue Hasbro? Graviton the villain is older than Graviton the ship.
Old 10-07-13 | 02:26 PM
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Graviton (Transformers) is obscure, even for me, I think he meant Galvatron.

Anyway, Graviton (Marvel) is a pretty obscure villain, but I'm sure there will still be outrage since he can pretty much take the Avengers on single handedly. Nothing like the Mandarin controversy, though, I'm sure.
Old 10-07-13 | 02:43 PM
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You fucking n00bs got it all wrong, it's Galveston. And he's one of the Outsiders' most dangerous villains, if not THE most dangerous villain in the entire Valiant universe.
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