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Old 11-15-11 | 11:11 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

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Old 11-15-11 | 11:26 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

I thought it was funny that Glenn just happened to have a ballpoint pin with him at dinner. I bet his number one stage direction in the script for any given episode is "Glenn stares, slack-jawed".

The napalm scene was handled well, but it didn't give with what we saw of Atlanta in the early episodes.

This is the second-best Sunday night show that features a dude hallucinating conversations with his psychotic older brother.
Old 11-16-11 | 01:20 AM
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I thought the napalm scene was neat too, but I don't necessarily need to see a ton more about how the outbreak happened, or the immediate response after. I've seen that stuff in every other zombie thing, and I like that WD is clearly about what happens "after the movie credits" as Kirkman has said.
Old 11-16-11 | 04:19 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Groucho
I thought it was funny that Glenn just happened to have a ballpoint pin with him at dinner. I bet his number one stage direction in the script for any given episode is "Glenn stares, slack-jawed".

The napalm scene was handled well, but it didn't give with what we saw of Atlanta in the early episodes.

This is the second-best Sunday night show that features a dude hallucinating conversations with his psychotic older brother.
I thought we saw end of the pen with the note when she passed it to him? I don't have it saved so I can't double-check
Old 11-16-11 | 04:59 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Are Kate and Sawyer EVER going to get out of these cages?


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Old 11-16-11 | 06:41 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
I suppose you could take that angle ... but Merle is dead, as are Morgan and Duane (the guy and his son from the first season). Do I have any proof of this? No, but it is more logical than the traditional "closed universe" TV model (meaning nothing happens unless viewers see it).

Merle hacked his hand off (bled to death) to flee an imminent hoard of zombies (hors d'oeuvres) on the rooftop several stories up (jumped to his death). The only people who believe he is still alive are the same people who are convinced Thelma and Louise made it to the other side.

As for Morgan and Duane ... they placed significant emphasis on remaining quiet in the house. They placed significant emphasis on not leaving the kid alone downstairs ... then Morgan leaves Duane downstairs and starts popping off shots from the book repository. Sounds like a recipe for being DEAD.
Remember that they tracked Merle down into the store and found that he had cauterized the wound. If Merle is dead it's not because he bled to death.
Old 11-16-11 | 08:39 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Navinabob
I thought we saw end of the pen with the note when she passed it to him? I don't have it saved so I can't double-check
There was definitely a pen inside the note - the end was sticking out. I had to to watch that a couple times to see it because I also wondered where Glenn got the pen from.
Old 11-16-11 | 09:01 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

We are NOT having a conversation about if a pen was handy or not for note passing. Are we? Really? REALLY?!?!
Old 11-16-11 | 09:22 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

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I think some may be, but most were simply captured (Rick made a comment about Hershel wanting to deal with the walkers). Of course, we don't have any real sense of how many people are/were on the farm ...
What I'd like to know is how they manage to capture snapping zombies and manage to get them in a barn filled with other snapping zombies. I can see them getting away with it for one or two zombies but as the numbers increase, so does the odds of getting overwhelmed.
Old 11-17-11 | 01:33 AM
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I have a disease where if I've invested this much time into a show I have to watch it till the end
but this season is really dragging ass

I have hope that it will get better
Old 11-17-11 | 07:59 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

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What I'd like to know is how they manage to capture snapping zombies and manage to get them in a barn filled with other snapping zombies. I can see them getting away with it for one or two zombies but as the numbers increase, so does the odds of getting overwhelmed.
I have not read the books so this is pure speculation. But yeah, that's sort of a sticky issue. Were they all infected around the same time and herded in there? Otherwise, if you're adding people as they get infected, how are you not being overrun when you open the doors? Or maybe he just threw them in from the hayloft.
Old 11-17-11 | 08:33 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

For those who have read the comics, was the issue with the pen answered there? Put the answer in spoiler tags for those who may read them in the future.
Old 11-17-11 | 12:11 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Groucho
For those who have read the comics, was the issue with the pen answered there? Put the answer in spoiler tags for those who may read them in the future.
Wait a second... you are the one that brought up the silly "mystery pen" error in the first place, which turned out to be just something you missed while watching, and now you are mocking the fact that we addressed it?

Much like a snake swallowing its own tail, I think Groucho just created an infinity post loop.
Old 11-17-11 | 03:37 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Groucho
For those who have read the comics, was the issue with the pen answered there? Put the answer in spoiler tags for those who may read them in the future.
Old 11-17-11 | 03:46 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

So how long can zombies go without eating? Can a zombie starve to death? I would have to say yes. All these zombies in the barn, must be getting fed somehow. Is Hershal supplying food for all of them? I assume that in this world, there is no supernatural excuse that lets zombies live forever without eating. If they are moving around in that barn, they must be getting their energy from eating something. Seems like a lot of mouths for Hershal to feed. Was the zombie in the well one of the barn zombies that escaped?
Old 11-17-11 | 08:27 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

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What I'd like to know is how they manage to capture snapping zombies and manage to get them in a barn filled with other snapping zombies. I can see them getting away with it for one or two zombies but as the numbers increase, so does the odds of getting overwhelmed.
The zombies in the comics seemed slower and dumber and would let you lead them around. The zombies on the show are more dangerous.
Old 11-17-11 | 11:03 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

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Remember that they tracked Merle down into the store and found that he had cauterized the wound. If Merle is dead it's not because he bled to death.
I didn't remember that ... so the zombies break down the door and shamble over to Merle VERY S-L-O-W-L-Y while he cuts his hand off. Once ALL of the zombies have exited the stairwell and entered the roof, Merle begins running around in circles (cue Bennie Hill music) and the zombies form a congo line and start following him (as Scooby and Shaggy run in one door and out another) ... once he has them circling, he dashes down the stairs and cauterizes his wound ... and then remains concealed for (weeks? months? we still aren't sure about the passage of time), just out of the group's constant vigil until he can enact his master cloak and dagger plan of kidnapping Sophia ...

Can I say that this is unbelievable in a show where the dead have risen with a craving for human tar-tar? If Merle were alive he would have hauled ass back to the camp guns-a-blazing and fed Rick his own balls at the VERY least.

If I eat crow down the road, I eat crow ... but I'm going all in: Merle is dead. So are Boba Fett, Dumbledore, Samuel L. Jackson's character in Deep Blue Sea, Thelma and Louise, Coach Ernie Pantuso, the 2011-12 NBA Season, Herman Cain's chances of being elected President, and Elvis. Let it go.
Old 11-17-11 | 11:05 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Navinabob
I thought we saw end of the pen with the note when she passed it to him? I don't have it saved so I can't double-check
I'm pretty sure Glen slipped Maggie his pen while they were in the drug store.
Old 11-17-11 | 11:06 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by actionjackson29
The zombies in the comics seemed slower and dumber and would let you lead them around. The zombies on the show are more dangerous.
That's because comics are drawn with still panels ... if the panels moved like a tv image does, you would see they are about the same.
Old 11-18-11 | 06:58 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

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I didn't remember that ... so the zombies break down the door and shamble over to Merle VERY S-L-O-W-L-Y while he cuts his hand off. Once ALL of the zombies have exited the stairwell and entered the roof, Merle begins running around in circles (cue Bennie Hill music) and the zombies form a congo line and start following him (as Scooby and Shaggy run in one door and out another) ... once he has them circling, he dashes down the stairs and cauterizes his wound ... and then remains concealed for (weeks? months? we still aren't sure about the passage of time), just out of the group's constant vigil until he can enact his master cloak and dagger plan of kidnapping Sophia ...

Can I say that this is unbelievable in a show where the dead have risen with a craving for human tar-tar? If Merle were alive he would have hauled ass back to the camp guns-a-blazing and fed Rick his own balls at the VERY least.

If I eat crow down the road, I eat crow ... but I'm going all in: Merle is dead. So are Boba Fett, Dumbledore, Samuel L. Jackson's character in Deep Blue Sea, Thelma and Louise, Coach Ernie Pantuso, the 2011-12 NBA Season, Herman Cain's chances of being elected President, and Elvis. Let it go.


I don't think the chain ever broke. Since you mentioned not remembering, I would suggest rewaching that episode because you seem a bit hazy on the details.

My best guess is it's been maybe 3 weeks since Rick woke up.
Old 11-18-11 | 07:39 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by John Slider
My best guess is it's been maybe 3 weeks since Rick woke up.
If that is correct, the people who say there is not enough action/zombies can suck it. They have had a lot of zombie action for the small amount of time they've been in this zombie apocalypse.
Old 11-18-11 | 08:07 AM
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As far as Merle is concerned, this is according to Wikipedia:

Older brother of Daryl. A Southern redneck, Merle lived with a neglectful father and acted out against society, which frequently landed him in juvenile institutions. Merle participates in one scavenging group mission and reacts violently when the group assists Rick. He attacks members of the group and is handcuffed to a pipe. When the group is discovered by walkers, T-Dog returns to free him but accidentally loses the key in a drain and leaves him behind. Rick and others later return to rescue him, but it is revealed that Merle had already escaped – having cut off his own cuffed hand in order to escape from the walkers. The group found evidence that Merle survived his self-mutilation and escaped from the building he was trapped on, and may have stolen their truck to escape Atlanta – his current fate is unknown.
Old 11-18-11 | 11:11 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by boredsilly
I thought the napalm scene was neat too, but I don't necessarily need to see a ton more about how the outbreak happened, or the immediate response after. I've seen that stuff in every other zombie thing, and I like that WD is clearly about what happens "after the movie credits" as Kirkman has said.
I dont get the impression that that scene was put there so we know "more about how the outbreak happened, or the immediate response after."
I think everything we get has something to do with character development, especially with rick, shane, and his wife.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
I didn't remember that ... so the zombies break down the door and shamble over to Merle VERY S-L-O-W-L-Y while he cuts his hand off. Once ALL of the zombies have exited the stairwell and entered the roof, Merle begins running around in circles (cue Bennie Hill music) and the zombies form a congo line and start following him (as Scooby and Shaggy run in one door and out another) ... once he has them circling, he dashes down the stairs and cauterizes his wound ... and then remains concealed for (weeks? months? we still aren't sure about the passage of time), just out of the group's constant vigil until he can enact his master cloak and dagger plan of kidnapping Sophia ...

Can I say that this is unbelievable in a show where the dead have risen with a craving for human tar-tar? If Merle were alive he would have hauled ass back to the camp guns-a-blazing and fed Rick his own balls at the VERY least.

If I eat crow down the road, I eat crow ... but I'm going all in: Merle is dead. So are Boba Fett, Dumbledore, Samuel L. Jackson's character in Deep Blue Sea, Thelma and Louise, Coach Ernie Pantuso, the 2011-12 NBA Season, Herman Cain's chances of being elected President, and Elvis. Let it go.
You really need to actually watch the show before you criticize. Sure there are plot holes, a lot of them, but this is not one of them. Merle clearly escaped. The zombies were stopped by the chain on the door. After cutting off his hand Merle had his belt and most likely used it as a tourniquet. When the gang returned they found the door still chained and a trail of blood leading eventually to a kitchen where Merle obviously cauterized the stump. There were also clear signs where he exited the building. No Benny Hill or Scooby Doo shenanigans needed.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Chupacabra" -- 11/13/11

Originally Posted by majorjoe23
My best guess is it's been maybe 3 weeks since Rick woke up.
What was the length of time from when the zombie outbreak started and Rick woke up?


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