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Old 05-20-10 | 11:38 PM
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10

I'm none too concerned about Walt. Just say that the Others took it upon themselves to find a potential Candidate without Jacob's consent. The kid showed potential but he wasn't right for whatever reason. Or just say he was like Miles and Hugo but infinitely more gifted.
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10

Originally Posted by Groucho
I guarantee that Walt will only get minor lip service in the finale, if he's even mentioned at all.
You might or might not want to read this Spoiler:

Spoiler:
Watched Lost: Live -- Times Talk with Damon and Carlton tonight, and Carlton spoiled that Walt is in the finale.
Old 05-21-10 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GenPion
You might or might not want to read this Spoiler:

Spoiler:
Watched Lost: Live -- Times Talk with Damon and Carlton tonight, and Carlton spoiled that Walt is in the finale.
Spoiler:
"Previously, on Lost..."
Old 05-21-10 | 09:16 AM
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10

Originally Posted by GenPion
You might or might not want to read this Spoiler:

Spoiler:
Watched Lost: Live -- Times Talk with Damon and Carlton tonight, and Carlton spoiled that Walt is in the finale.
Noooooooo!
Spoiler:
The kid can't act.
Old 05-21-10 | 10:38 AM
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10

Originally Posted by Aphex Twin
Hmm...I wonder if Jacob really is a virgin? He must have gotten a little somethin-somethin while away from the island right? You think he's got a few friends with benefits dialed into the lighthouse?
His mom wasn't technically his mom. Just saying.
Old 05-21-10 | 10:57 AM
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lol... so what are you saying
Old 05-21-10 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MoviePage
Spoiler:
"Previously, on Lost..."

I don't really consider this a spoiler:


Aaron storyline is closed!

"Lindelof seemed baffled that people come up to him suggesting that Aaron is "special." He points out that the ONLY person on the show to ever say Aaron was special, was Claire's psychic in an early episode. In a later episode, the psychic was shown to be a complete fraud, making her "special" comment irrelevant. "


Well this kinda proves that they really are making this stuff up as they go along. I still remember the psychic storyline clearly, and the guy was definitely creepy and spooked out when he read Claire's palms. It was a major plot point and obviously they had plans for it that were thrown by the wayside. Claiming the psychic was merely a fraud, wow cheap copout!
Old 05-21-10 | 11:31 AM
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10

Jacob was touching the psychic to get Claire to the island.
Old 05-21-10 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dvdaddict32
I don't really consider this a spoiler:


Aaron storyline is closed!

"Lindelof seemed baffled that people come up to him suggesting that Aaron is "special." He points out that the ONLY person on the show to ever say Aaron was special, was Claire's psychic in an early episode. In a later episode, the psychic was shown to be a complete fraud, making her "special" comment irrelevant. "


Well this kinda proves that they really are making this stuff up as they go along. I still remember the psychic storyline clearly, and the guy was definitely creepy and spooked out when he read Claire's palms. It was a major plot point and obviously they had plans for it that were thrown by the wayside. Claiming the psychic was merely a fraud, wow cheap copout!
It was in one of Eco's flashbacks that you found out that the psychic was a fraud............Eco died in season 3, so it has been established for a long time that he was a fraud.
Old 05-21-10 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Kmical
Maybe leading to "Jacob" being the most popular name for boys?:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/09/baby.names/index.html

I'm fairly sure that Man-in-Black and Smoke Monster are somewhere near the bottom of the list
Dang. We are expecting a child in September and "Smokie" was my first choice. MIB was my second. Back to the drawing board!
Old 05-21-10 | 11:48 AM
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My take was always that the psychic was a fraud in general, who had a genuine psychic vision in regards to Aaron. I'm quite certain that's what the writers intended at the time. It's not much of a scam to give someone their money back and pay for them to fly from Australia to Los Angeles. I wish C&L would just shut the fuck up. Their comments about the show's inconsistencies are more irritating than the inconsistencies themselves.
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Dang. We are expecting a child in September and "Smokie" was my first choice. MIB was my second. Back to the drawing board!
Have you considered "You" or "Brother"?

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My take was always that the psychic was a fraud in general, who had a genuine psychic vision in regards to Aaron. I'm quite certain that's what the writers intended at the time. It's not much of a scam to give someone their money back and pay for them to fly from Australia to Los Angeles. I wish C&L would just shut the fuck up. Their comments about the show's inconsistencies are more irritating than the inconsistencies themselves.
That was my take on it as well.

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Originally Posted by dvdaddict32
Well this kinda proves that they really are making this stuff up as they go along. I still remember the psychic storyline clearly, and the guy was definitely creepy and spooked out when he read Claire's palms. It was a major plot point and obviously they had plans for it that were thrown by the wayside. Claiming the psychic was merely a fraud, wow cheap copout!
Welcome to LOST!
Old 05-21-10 | 12:14 PM
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OR it's possible that they threw in some red herrings ya know...just sayin'
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10

Except you undermine said red herring by adding the twist that said fake psychic gave Claire her money back. There was no need for that extra bit of information unless there was genuine significance behind the vision.
Old 05-21-10 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by maxfisher
My take was always that the psychic was a fraud in general, who had a genuine psychic vision in regards to Aaron. I'm quite certain that's what the writers intended at the time. It's not much of a scam to give someone their money back and pay for them to fly from Australia to Los Angeles. I wish C&L would just shut the fuck up. Their comments about the show's inconsistencies are more irritating than the inconsistencies themselves.
That is mine as well. Why else would the guy act so freaked out ending the session immediately and then later harrassing Claire about the baby?

I can't stand C&L especially on their completely worthless "official" podcast.
Old 05-21-10 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dvdaddict32
That is mine as well. Why else would the guy act so freaked out ending the session immediately and then later harrassing Claire about the baby?

I can't stand C&L especially on their completely worthless "official" podcast.
I know, it's so horrible how they force us to go to their site week after week and listen to their podcast when we hate it so much.
Old 05-21-10 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
His mom wasn't technically his mom. Just saying.
It was kind of suspicious that he chose to stay with his mom no matter what. It was greatly implied that they were lovers.
Old 05-21-10 | 02:17 PM
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10

Well I think it would be really cool now that Jack is the new jacob maybe Ben can become the new Richard...
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I know, it's so horrible how they force us to go to their site week after week and listen to their podcast when we hate it so much.
Yes, because being coerced into listening to their spectacular podcast is a prerequisite for commenting on its quality.
Old 05-21-10 | 04:06 PM
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10

Aaron was special in that he needed to be raised by Claire. That's it. There was nothing else talked about in regards to his significance, other than that. He gave her the ticket to make sure she didn't give her baby away to a stranger.
Old 05-21-10 | 04:22 PM
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10

Was Claire ever a candidate? What was her purpose in all of this?
Old 05-21-10 | 04:32 PM
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She was not. Her purpose was likely merely giving birth to Aaron, who I'm convinced was initially meant to play a huge part while the writers were making up things as they progressed. The discussion about the psychic and his predictions may lend some support to Aaron's ultimate importance at one time for the writers.
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I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but I have a feeling that Desmond is the one that has to go into the light at the center of the island. I don't know exactly what effect it will have on the island, the two realities, or the Man in Black, but I think its inevitable that he will be the one to go into the light. One possibil

Originally Posted by auto
Well, there is no denying it was a lighthouse that let Jacob look at people in the "real world". Seems pretty magic to me.

I don't care if they explain it, just thought it was funny they introduced it and never came back to it.
I don't think the lighthouse was just a way for Jacob to watch people in the real world. I think it was a way to observe and interact. When he stands in front of the mirror it projects an image of him to wherever the mirror is currently set. obviously there is still some sort of magic involved here (a pure image probably couldn't give Sawyer a pencil or hand Jack a candy bar), but I think the lighthouse was more than just a tool of observation.

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I didn't read the long thread for "Across the Sea," but I think there is an obvious parallel between Jacob protecting the light and John Locke/Desmond/Dharma Initiative pressing the button. All of them are doing something because they were told to without fully understanding the reason behind it. Turns out pushing the button was important and not just some sick experiment, and I'm sure protecting the light is important too, but we don't know the real reason yet.

I think I saw someone speculate that perhaps Aaron is the Man in Black? I don't see how that is even remotely possible.

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I don't think there is any way for them to wrap up all of the outstanding questions and mysteries in two and a half hours, but that doesn't mean it won't be a good episode and a satisfying conclusion. I don't buy for a second though that the creative minds behind Lost had all of this in mind all along.
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Re: Lost -- "What They Died For" -- 18.05.10

Originally Posted by Aphex Twin
It was kind of suspicious that he chose to stay with his mom no matter what. It was greatly implied that they were lovers.
It wasn't greatly or barely implied to me.
and unless it was mentioned on other boards I never would have thought it.


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