Treme (HBO) -- from the creator of The Wire, David Simon -- Series Thread
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
I wonder if Albert will ever get in trouble for beating that kid to death in episode 2.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
I guess Daymo was murdered but I wouldn't say it is pretty obvious.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
Great finale. I was surprised by the flashback sequence at first but loved it. Looking forward to next season and seeing where the stories go.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
But then later someone mentioned some kid being in the hospital, and Albert said something like "Sounds like he did something he shouldn't have."
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Yeah the kid is definitely not dead.
I don't think Albert is the kind of guy who would kill someone and then act like nothing happened.
I don't think Albert is the kind of guy who would kill someone and then act like nothing happened.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
I never thought for a second he killed the kid. I'm sure that would have been a major storyline had he killed someone.
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Re: Treme -- "Wish Someone Would Care" -- 6/13/10
I'm not sure I'll even be back for the show next season. This just doesn't have any kind of hook for me, and half of the "actors" on the show seem to be chosen for their musical ability or relation to New Orleans in real life and as such come off as horrible performances.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
Also, I thought the police interference during the St. Joseph's "parade" was horribly done. So um...all those cop cars just swarm on the scene, including the guy that then had to come out and tell everyone to back down? Why did he even let it get to that point?
In the end this show just kind of went nowhere for me. I can get into personal dramas, but the writing of the last few episodes just seemed sloppy and irritating.
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As sad as it is, his suicide made perfect sense to me. I saw this type of thing first hand after the tsunami. People that survive these types of disasters react in many different ways. Some people are able to cope, but some of them turn to drugs/alcohol, some suicide. It's a combination of the things they saw, the people they lost, and the feeling that you don't deserve to live when all of these other people have died.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
I liked everything about the show except for the Indian storyline...that was a complete miss for me as I just couldn't "get it", which was weird because Lester Freeman is my hero.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
As sad as it is, his suicide made perfect sense to me. I saw this type of thing first hand after the tsunami. People that survive these types of disasters react in many different ways. Some people are able to cope, but some of them turn to drugs/alcohol, some suicide. It's a combination of the things they saw, the people they lost, and the feeling that you don't deserve to live when all of these other people have died.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
I guess for me it just didn't feel like a natural progression as they really didn't start giving you the feeling of his deep depression until the Mardi Gras episode. And even after that, I guess I painted him up as much more of a family man than one that would take the out he did. I still don't think it fit and they turned one of, if not the, best characters on the show into a huge piece of shit by leaving his family like he did. If that was their goal, then congratulations I guess.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
I agree, if there had been signs along the way then I think I would have found it more believable, but like Superfro said, we really didn't even see him depressed until the last couple shows. Until that point he appeared to have a good marriage, good relationship with his daughter, had a job, had a book deal. His house didn't appear to have suffered any damage in the hurricane and they never mentioned he lost any family or friends.
I have to think that feeling is definitely on purpose though since they had Toni react the way she did about him not getting the second line because he took the easy way out. They had her be pissed at him the same way I was at home because it just didn't make any sense. Unfortunately that doesn't do much to change my opinion of this particular thing not making sense equaling unsatisfying storytelling.
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Re: Treme -- "Wish Someone Would Care" -- 6/13/10
Yep. It was pretty goddamn lame way for them to off the character IMO.
I'm not sure I'll even be back for the show next season. This just doesn't have any kind of hook for me, and half of the "actors" on the show seem to be chosen for their musical ability or relation to New Orleans in real life and as such come off as horrible performances.
I'm not sure I'll even be back for the show next season. This just doesn't have any kind of hook for me, and half of the "actors" on the show seem to be chosen for their musical ability or relation to New Orleans in real life and as such come off as horrible performances.
This show has plenty of good actors on it so I am not sure where you are getting that half of them were chosen for their music ability. A show based in New Orleans is gonna portray a good portion of it on it's music but these actors have been in other movies, shows and weren't chosen for their musical ability.
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Re: Treme -- "Wish Someone Would Care" -- 6/13/10
Yep. It was pretty goddamn lame way for them to off the character IMO.
I'm not sure I'll even be back for the show next season. This just doesn't have any kind of hook for me, and half of the "actors" on the show seem to be chosen for their musical ability or relation to New Orleans in real life and as such come off as horrible performances.
I'm not sure I'll even be back for the show next season. This just doesn't have any kind of hook for me, and half of the "actors" on the show seem to be chosen for their musical ability or relation to New Orleans in real life and as such come off as horrible performances.
As for Chreighton's suicide... a few of us saw it coming - but that doesn't make it realistic. It really makes no sense for him to turn so quickly to suicide. His true downward spiral and depression lasted, what, 2 episodes? It was obvious they needed more time to for it to be a more natural decline. There were hints throughout the season, but they were so minor and just didn't ring true.
It's not like they couldn't give more episodes and screentime to this matter - since they were wasting time with all that music and just pointless running around.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
I agree, if there had been signs along the way then I think I would have found it more believable, but like Superfro said, we really didn't even see him depressed until the last couple shows. Until that point he appeared to have a good marriage, good relationship with his daughter, had a job, had a book deal. His house didn't appear to have suffered any damage in the hurricane and they never mentioned he lost any family or friends.
The Creighton Bernette story was, in terms of his inability to create, his struggles on his own - because nobody kills themselves just because their city suffers; there has to be something internalized - was not unusual. If you look up the name Stevenson Palfi, a great documentary filmmaker who lost a lot of his material in the floods and struggled to get his next movie made after making a great film called "Piano Players Rarely Play Together," he took his own life.
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Re: Treme -- "Wish Someone Would Care" -- 6/13/10
I have to agree. There's plenty of terrible acting in this show. I understand the need to make it feel real, but when when actors are bad - it doesnt feel natural. So the show doesn't really have much plot going on and the acting is bad... I don't see how it can be viewed as a great show with these two major knocks. Maybe you can get away with one or the other - but not both.
As for Chreighton's suicide... a few of us saw it coming - but that doesn't make it realistic. It really makes no sense for him to turn so quickly to suicide. His true downward spiral and depression lasted, what, 2 episodes? It was obvious they needed more time to for it to be a more natural decline. There were hints throughout the season, but they were so minor and just didn't ring true.
It's not like they couldn't give more episodes and screentime to this matter - since they were wasting time with all that music and just pointless running around.
As for Chreighton's suicide... a few of us saw it coming - but that doesn't make it realistic. It really makes no sense for him to turn so quickly to suicide. His true downward spiral and depression lasted, what, 2 episodes? It was obvious they needed more time to for it to be a more natural decline. There were hints throughout the season, but they were so minor and just didn't ring true.
It's not like they couldn't give more episodes and screentime to this matter - since they were wasting time with all that music and just pointless running around.
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From: Marion, IA
Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
Although wouldn't it just be better to list the signs here instead of having someone go back and rewatch 12 hours of a show?
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Re: Treme -- "Wish Someone Would Care" -- 6/13/10
How was the acting bad. I really don't see how you could say the acting is bad. I think Leo, Alexander,Clarke, and Pierce are very good. The shows plot is Katrina and how it changed the characters lives and how they are adapting to it. Don't see why that is hard to figure out.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
I agree there were signs of depression through the whole series, but not (IMO) signs that he was suicidally depressed, there is a big difference! Thanks for the link to the interview though it was interesting! Even though I found the suicide storyline lacking I still do think this is a very good show.
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Re: Treme *Season Finale* - "I'll Fly Away" - 6/20/10
Caught up with this finale last night -- a great way to end the season. Loved seeing these characters on the eve of Katrina. Was also glad to see Davis and Annie reunite from their encounter during carnival.




