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It is in the Star Trek basement where it belongs.
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It is the best of the Star Trek series.
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It lies somewhere in the middle.
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I can't fairly rate it against other Treks since it was not a "ship" series.
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Old 06-13-07 | 04:07 PM
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When I got DS9 last year, it was the complete series set in the green tray. It was over $400 with taxes, but when I broke down the cost per box, it worked out to what all 5 seasons of my 'other' favorite show (ANGEL) cost, along with an additional 2 box sets of any other show to equal the 7 seasons of DS9.

If I bought DS9 season-by-season, it would have amounted to almost $1500 total.
Old 06-13-07 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
Same. I've been meaning to get the Original Series for a while now, but I think I'll hold off until the remastered ones get released.



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I have all of DS9 also. I was close to getting TOS but then I read the rumor that all the Star Trek series would probably get remastered sometime in the future for HD. I'm thinking of getting the collective sets while I wait. I want to own the complete Star Trek collection (TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, & the Movies).
Old 06-13-07 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
If I bought DS9 season-by-season, it would have amounted to almost $1500 total.

You don't say....


Originally Posted by actionjackson29
I have all of DS9 also. I was close to getting TOS but then I read the rumor that all the Star Trek series would probably get remastered sometime in the future for HD. I'm thinking of getting the collective sets while I wait. I want to own the complete Star Trek collection (TOS, TNG, DS9, & the Movies).
*fixed*



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Old 06-13-07 | 04:34 PM
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Beat me to that fix
(Never saw TOS, but I certainly recognize its importance)

When each set was released, I would curse Paramount for the prices because there was no way I would buy them for (Canadian) nearly $200 per season with taxes.

Leaving aside the fact that I could never afford to before or since anyway.

The SEs of the movies are noticeably cheaper than the average Paramount release, and even the original versions are still expensive, but their shows...criminally overpriced.
Old 06-13-07 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
Beat me to that fix
(Never saw TOS, but I certainly recognize its importance)

When each set was released, I would curse Paramount for the prices because there was no way I would buy them for (Canadian) nearly $200 per season with taxes.
Ah, ok, now that explains it. I knew I paid an arm and a nut for the ds9 season sets, but $1500 seemed steep even for them.

Although I'm sure right now the Canadian dollar is probably kicking the bejesus out of our W-Devalued paper.

As for the original series, it's hokey and full of cheese by today's standards, and some of the stinkers really do stink (Spock's Brain.... ugh) but at it's best, the themes and humanity of the show comprise some of the best in sci-fi. It's always been on my list to get, but those sweet new remastered episodes sure sweeten the pot.


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Old 06-13-07 | 05:48 PM
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IMO DS9 is a soap opera with people with crinkly foreheads. At least way too much of the time, if not always. TOS and sometimes TNG for me only please.
Old 06-13-07 | 05:58 PM
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IMO DS9 is a soap opera with people with crinkly foreheads.
You couldn't be more wrong.

It's a soap opera with people with crinkly *noses*. Versus people with spoony foreheads. Jeez.
Old 06-13-07 | 06:05 PM
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Ah, yes I stand corrected. Sorry I'm not a connoisseur of the show
Old 06-13-07 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by porieux
IMO DS9 is a soap opera with people with crinkly foreheads.
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Crinkly noses, not foreheads. We have established that as of now, get your facts updated fanboy
Old 06-13-07 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by porieux
IMO DS9 is a soap opera with people with crinkly foreheads. At least way too much of the time, if not always. TOS and sometimes TNG for me only please.
You obviously haven't been watching Battlestar Galactica.
Old 06-18-07 | 11:19 PM
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Spike TV just showed the episode "The Jem'Hadar" (great episode, btw) last week and will be showing the two-parter "The Search" this week. (At 3am ET, making it a DVR-type of broadcast.)
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Spike TV just showed the episode "The Jem'Hadar" (great episode, btw) last week and will be showing the two-parter "The Search" this week. (At 3am ET, making it a DVR-type of broadcast.)
Aw man... when
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that Galaxy class ship bites it, I was floored. They purposely used a ship in the same class as the Enterprise to increase the shock value and show the Dominion's threat and it was VERY effective.


I didn't start watching the third season and beyond until a few years ago, (when I rediscovered and fell in love with the show) but I saw "The Jam'Hadar" when I was 12 and my jaw was on the goddamned ground.


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Old 06-25-07 | 06:38 AM
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I've been rewatching this on DVD and thought of a question regarding Dr. Bashir:

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It was never shown on screen, but was there an event that was shown that lead to his abduction and replacement where he ended up on that prison asteroid for a couple episodes? If so, anybody remember what that was?
Old 06-25-07 | 01:52 PM
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I've been rewatching this on DVD and thought of a question regarding Dr. Bashir:
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There was just that mention of going to a conference, and the only thing that adds up would be when Jake was doing a story on Bashir - at a conference, in the episode "Nor The Battle To The Strong". The switch could have happened then.

Remember only the season 5 episodes before the episode "Rapture", as that was when they got the newer, better-looking uniforms from "Star Trek: First Contact", and the 'real' Bashir was wearing the old-style uniform in the prison.



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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
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There was just that mention of going to a conference, and the only thing that adds up would be when Jake was doing a story on Bashir - at a conference, in the episode "Nor The Battle To The Strong". The switch could have happened then.

Remember only the season 5 episodes before the episode "Rapture", as that was when they got the newer, better-looking uniforms from "Star Trek: First Contact", and the 'real' Bashir was wearing the old-style uniform in the prison.
Good, thanks. I always forget that little twist until it actually happens, when in fact I should be looking a little closer for a few episodes before that.
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
Spoiler:

There was just that mention of going to a conference, and the only thing that adds up would be when Jake was doing a story on Bashir - at a conference, in the episode "Nor The Battle To The Strong". The switch could have happened then.

Remember only the season 5 episodes before the episode "Rapture", as that was when they got the newer, better-looking uniforms from "Star Trek: First Contact", and the 'real' Bashir was wearing the old-style uniform in the prison.




Spoiler:
It wasn't THAT long ago... That was when The Klingon/Federation war was still going strong... Later, in "In the Pale Moonlight" it's mentioned that it's only a matter of weeks, or a few months at the most (I'd have to check), so in terms of OUR time, it was probably only an episode or two.



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Old 06-25-07 | 03:45 PM
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That twist really had me scratching my head when I first saw it as well.
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Originally Posted by Doc MacGyver
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It wasn't THAT long ago... That was when The Klingon/Federation war was still going strong... Later, in "In the Pale Moonlight" it's mentioned that it's only a matter of weeks, or a few months at the most (I'd have to check), so in terms of OUR time, it was probably only an episode or two.

Then why would
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Bashir be wearing the old-style uniform in the prison? That was obviously intentional, so you know just how long the switch occured. Sure it's hard to grasp - Changeling Bashir went to Risa with Leeta, Dax, Worf and Quark, Changeling Bashir performed brain surgery on Sisko, Changeling Bashir went back in time...I was offering a possible on-screen explanation as to when the switch happened.

Perhaps there was another medical conference he went to that wasn't mentioned in any of those episodes prior to "Rapture".
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I am also curious about what people consider to be their favorite episode of DS9... In the Pale Moonlight and The Jem'Hadar have been mentioned several times in this thread.

One of my favorites is Honor Among Thieves. Colm Meaney really captured the conflicting emotions that one would experience in that situation. The main guest star was wonderful, too. A very touching ep...
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Originally Posted by Chew
I've been rewatching this on DVD and thought of a question regarding Dr. Bashir:

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It was never shown on screen, but was there an event that was shown that lead to his abduction and replacement where he ended up on that prison asteroid for a couple episodes? If so, anybody remember what that was?
This is one of the most disappointing things about DS9 for me as I'm going through it again (with many of these season 5+ episodes being brand new to me). (spoilers through season 5):

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Bashir is kidnapped and replaced and nobody even mentions it after he returns. They made a huge deal about how Sisko was so tormented over not recognizing Eddington's true motives but he apparently didn't mind that he couldn't tell that Bashir was a fake and that the fake doctor had gone so far as to perform brain surgery on him. The very next episode was even focused entirely on Bashir and his mental state and there was not one mention of the fact that he just spent at least a month as a prisoner of war. That just seemed completely unrealistic to me.

I have the same complaint about O'Brien and his 20 year imprisonment in season 4. They spend a whole episode where he can't come to terms with what he's been through and is going through a complete breakdown, and by the next episode there's no hint that he ever went through the experience. I don't mind some use of the reset button but when you have your characters go through such life changing events it really cheapens the effect when you seem to erase everyone's memory of it the next week.

I'm enjoying the ride but I can't help being bothered by these things.
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I am also curious about what people consider to be their favorite episode of DS9... In the Pale Moonlight and The Jem'Hadar have been mentioned several times in this thread.

One of my favorites is Honor Among Thieves. Colm Meaney really captured the conflicting emotions that one would experience in that situation. The main guest star was wonderful, too. A very touching ep...
The Visitor is my favorite DS9 episode so far, and it's one of my favorite Trek episodes overall. I haven't quite reached Honor Among Thieves yet (Far Beyond The Stars is my next episode). I also really enjoyed Duet and Our Man Bashir.
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I'm enjoying the ride but I can't help being bothered by these things.[/spoiler]
I think, like X-Files, DS9 was always tinkering with how much "reset" was needed to give important events their proper gravity. Clearly in many places they erred on the side of giving things insufficient weight. In today's TV series the mix between arc and standalones is less cut and dry, but these and B5 were the genre shows that blurred the lines...
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Another event with zero long term effect occured in the episode I just watched from Season 4 "To the Death":

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Renegade Jem'Hadar blow up a pylon and the station is back to 100% with "The Quickening" the next episode.


I've seen this series at least 3-4 times the whole way through and I keep forgetting huge events like these because they have about 10 seconds of screentime never to be mentioned again.
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Originally Posted by Chew
Another event with zero long term effect occured in the episode I just watched from Season 4 "To the Death":

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Renegade Jem'Hadar blow up a pylon and the station is back to 100% with "The Quickening" the next episode.


I've seen this series at least 3-4 times the whole way through and I keep forgetting huge events like these because they have about 10 seconds of screentime never to be mentioned again.
Yeah, things like that do irk. But for a Trek show, DS9 had a shocking amount of continuity.

I'm working my way through DS9 again after not seen it for about 10 years. I'm almost done with the third season, and I find it amusing how the "arc" seems to be someone saying the word "Dominion" in every other episode while they dick around with crappy standalone episodes ("Fascination", "Meridian"). But at the same time, I'm amazed at the level of interpersonal continuity. They actually remember to have people sympathize with O'Brian about Keiko's absence, for example.


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