I can understand a theatrical preview being one, or even a commercial, but how
can something that was part of the episode being talked about be considered a
spoiler?

I wasn't trying to be "clever", just stating that what they were speculating
was shown. And as for not watching the previews, this wasn't a preview I
went looking for or saw outside of the episode, it was shown over the credits,
thereby making it part of the episode.

Again, please read the forum rules before posting. Any preview (including the usual "Next time on...") should be discussed in spoiler tags.

Apologies for the post, I had no idea that something attached to an episode
being discussed would be considered a spoiler. I still stand by my claim that I
was not trying to be "clever".

:thumbsup: No problem. :)

I personally think it's an asinine rule, for the reasons you've mentioned, but yeah, it's been that way for a long time. No worries :)

I'm struggling with this "Hiro fights a T-Rex" image - I'm really hoping he doesn't time hop back to the age of the Dinosaurs with a sword and shield. That's really going to stretch my suspension of disbelief - could he even breathe back then?

Maybe he fights with Sylar in a museum and Sylar TKs a dinosaur statue at Hiro.

It isn't part of the episode. Just because NBC plays a clip at the same time as the credits, doesn't mean they go together. Ever watch a movie on TV and have commercials for other movies or "Catch it again" at the same time as the credits? I'm pretty sure those were never in the theater.

I'm not sure I'm understanding your examples/comment.
Obviously if the show shown in a preview isn't the same as the one you're
watching it'd be considered a spoiler. In this case the preview was for the
show it was attached to (to get you excited for the return in January),
therefore I assumed it was fair game. As pointed out it is not and as such
I will keep my comments based on them off the thread.

anyways, back to Heroes...

mini-Bilson :drool: will be missed. :rip:
although I'm sure she'll be talked about in the "previously on" which IS intended to be part of the episode because NBC isn't tacking it on during the credits. :p

Now, I don't know if it's just me, but I never found mini-Bilson to be all that appealling. It could, obviously, stem from my disdain for maxi-Bilson, but who knows?

Now, if the show were kind enough to give me mini-Diane Lane and mini-PJ Soles (circa 1981), then we could talk.

Side note: In regards to Hiro/dinosaur...

That's a tenuous comparison at best. Movies on TV aren't really comparable to TV shows since the promo aired during the TV show credits are typically for the TV show, so there's an obvious connection. That's why they air them there.

The whole spoilerizing previews thing isn't because it's not considered "part of the show," because often the previews for the next episode are discussed in the previous episode's thread, even when the preview isn't necessarily aired during the credits. The reason why they're spoilerized is because some consider the previews to be spoilers in and of themselves, and so chose not to view them. Thus in this forum we try to respect their wishes by spoilerizing the discussion of the previews.

Just to clarify my point, what they (NBC) are showing is a teaser for upcoming episodes. It is NOT part of the episode proper. Meaning, it isn't cut that way by the directors/editors/producers. The only time that footage is with the episode is when the studio is trying to entice you for the next episode. It won't that way on the DVD or even in syndication. They're just showing it over the credits because a) they can and b) they know you don't care about credits anyway. That's all I'm saying.
Point being: the channel can air two different things simultaneously via split screen. It doesn't mean they are inseparable.

So? Arguing about whether it's "part of the episode proper" is beside the point. In the LOST threads, the podcasts by the producers are brought up often, even though those can't by any stretch of the imagination be called "part of the episode proper." Likewise, online articles and such are often brought up in episode threads. All of that is acceptable to post. The criteria for what gets spoilerized is whether or not this extraneous info relates to something not yet revealed in the show. Previews, articles on upcoming eps, and even the comics may have such information, and should be spoilerized.

Luckily we're not talking about the DVD or syndication; this thread's about the original airing, hence the date in the title. Of course, those who catch it later are free to chime in if they chose.

Even if the network showed 8 different things simultaneously during the end credits, it wouldn't change that a preview for the show that just aired is related to that show.

PS to Brooklyn: You don't have to hit "enter" to make line breaks in your posts. The site will make the breaks for you when it displays your post, and doing so yourself can sometimes create strange formatting, especially when quoted.

i knew someone would go there.

does the speed at which nikki and jessica go back and forth bother anyone else? it seems like if something happens with micah, she becomes nikki, but if something involves DL, she becomes jessica (most of the time). it just seems weird that her personality flips that quickly.

I'm not sure that anyone has an absolute "null" power.

Didn't Nathan blast off like a rocket while he was in the presence of both Mr. Bennett and the Haitian?

The Haitian might just be a telepath like Matt or Professor X.

If we're defining what is or isn't a preview based on whether it's a part of the episode proper, would that not make previews shown at the same time as credits (clearly part of the episode proper) non-spoilers? That isn't the case in this situation IIRC, but it's an interesting question if you ask me.

Not to keep this going, but that is exactly the case in this situation.
Preview was top 2/3 of screen, credits bottom 1/3.

Didn't someone mention the name of the guy Claire's father was speaking to
on the phone was the same as the mob type boss in Las Vegas? If so, it's
possible that Claire's father and the Haitian were just being used on Nathan
as hired muscle (they were trying to get a future politician in their pockets)
and that they weren't aware he had powers at the time. That ep was a while
ago so it's also possible I'm totally forgetting something obvious that said they
did know he had powers :)

:lol: I feel like I'm speaking Greek. Two distinct frames on a screen for two distinct sources of video. They aren't tied together. It isn't part of the episode, it's a commercial for the next episode shown at the same time as the credits you aren't going to watch anyway.

I realize that. I've never not realized that.
My reply you're quoting was directed at another statement (which I quoted).

They might be separate video sources, but they're on at the same time.

Is the bug on screen to be considered potential spoiler material? It's a separate source.

I know, which you reference in the quote. But you're implying that those 2 portions of the screen are part of the same episode. I disagree and I'm just going to leave it at that because I feel like this discussion has probably happened before ;)

Doesn't bug me because I watch them and I read the comics, but I'm just defending the position of those that see the previews as spoilers and how they aren't part of the episode you just watched.

To each his own :shrug:

Depends on what it is spoiling to you. I'd say even the commercial for the next big blockbuster during the Superbowl is a spoiler to some even if it is not on at the same time.

Even the weather radar could be a spoiler if it hasn't reached you yet.

I'm implying that it was an honest mistake, nothing more. My statements were only to defend that position.