I am actually pretty shocked at all this Ryan love on the thread.I thought he was ok, but definitely not right for Supernova, and last night's performance was laughingly bad.

It's weird reading this thread and also the TWOP Rock Star thread because everyone over there is cheering that Ryan is gone and they all love Storm. This thread is like alternate universe Rock Star thread, because it doesn't seem like I am watching the same show as most of you. Were all you Ryan fans voting for him? He was not a very popular contestant, but it seems like all his fans must be at DVD Talk.

I think it's the order of the ouster. I would have rather seen Storm go home last night before Ryan. Storm is all attitude and mediocre pipes.

Storm is a force of nature. The woman is amazing and Ryan is just boring. He was like a "floater" and it was just time for him to go.

I find Storm's attitude to be wonderfully positive, which is I think is needed on this show.

You need to stop with the sweeping over generalizations. "Us people" (aka Ryan fans), know full well that he wasn't right for the band, but he was sure as hell better than Storm. Especially with writing week coming up and that being Ryan's forte, you'd think someone with a half a brain would keep him around and see what he came up with. Instead, they chose eye candy, fluff and no substance, over a solid talent. THAT's the problem.

As for the "gone nowhere" comment, Stage's 2004 EP contained a critically acclaimed song, named by RS as "track to watch" - Back of Your Car. Stage got no promotion and unfortunately came to the scene right at the end of alt-rock's heyday. His solo album is universally praised on Amazon and numerous other sites. The man may never be as popular as Motley Crue, but he has a bright future, and to address your other post, his comments were dead on - they are a go-nowhere band who will pick a generic lead singer and will be forgettable. There is no question that at this point, Ryan has tons of more potential over Supernova. His comments may have been brash, but they were justified in that this band continually makes horrible, impulsive decisions on who to cut without taking the time to consider what's really best for them.

It came down to who Tommy wanted to "see" more of. It should suprise no one it was Storm. Ryan called them on it, and rightfully so. It stopped being about the music some time ago.

To me, that is her ONLY positive trait. She's a camera hog, annoying, flamboyant and predictable. Her vocal range is limited at best, and what attractiveness she brings is offset by her crazy eyes. She has no "growl" and her screams suggest that someone is giving her the shocker.

Let's face it. She's there because she's attractive. Her musical talents have nothing to do with it.

I was sad to see Ryan go since he was the only one at this point that I could see actually following after the contest. Plus, I thought his original song was much, much better than any of the three Supernova songs that have been played. Much.

Last year, I could understand why people were cut, and I was rarely surprised. This year, it just seems random to me. I guess I have no clue as to what Supernova values in a singer; it sure isn't the same as what I value.

I don't think it is Storm's fault Ryan was kicked off. Her performance was light year's better than Dilana's mess of Psycho Killer.

Dismissing Storm's talents just because of her looks seems really unfair to me. She has more chops than many of the men left in the competition and she looks good at the same time. I would think men would admire a woman who can do it all. No wonder women are so confused now about what men want.

We forgive the male contestants for being asses or for having a bad performance, but someone like Storm brings her all to every performance but then gets put down for being attractive.

She might have been better than some of the rockers that got the boot..but I dont think she is even close to any that are left in the competiton..in chops or stage presence. I think that at this point, Supernova made sense...she isnt doing anything different or hasnt improved since the beginning of the competition. I do find her humility more attractive than Dilana's arrogance however, and for that reason alone, I hope she makes it longer than Dilana.

I apologize if you aren't addressing me directly, but I will respond in any event.

I believe you misunderstand me by saying that I "blame" her for Ryan's dismissal. Ryan was sent home because he is, objectively, not right for this band. IMHO however, he is, objectively, better than Storm and with songwritting week coming up and that being his forte, it made no sense.

I'm also not dismissing her talent. I'm not recognizing that she has any significant amount of it. She has a limited range, predictable frenetic behavior and uses her sexuality to overcome her shortcomings. I do not admire her, nor does my wife, for any of these things. I do admire her for being a positive person, and probably in reality a true friend to these performers. But musically, no way.

Hopefully that clears up at least my own position. If not, I would glady continue the discussion.

With the exception of Lukas, everyone comes across as a poser. While I don't particularily care for him (or for Supernova for that matter,) he's the only one who really fits with the band. The guy's always dressed up in his rock star clothes with his rock star hair, makeup, and sunglasses, and he always has a cigarette in one hand and a drink in the other. The other contestants seem to go into their wannabe poser rock star modes only when they're on stage. At least Lukas thinks he's rockstar all the time while the others seem to act like it only when they're on stage for a couple hours each week.

I've really liked what I have heard of Storm's original music and I think she is a very talented songwriter.

I hope she gets to do one of her original songs on the show.

I kind of agree with Ryan going. His "Clocks" performance came off as a guy trying too hard to rock out. And last night, it was laughable. There were certain aspects I liked about Ryan (song writing ability, intensity, etc.) but he is deffintely not polished enough. Storm and Dilana had horrible performances as well. My new final 3 would be Toby, Magni and Lukas. I hope they don't feel obligated to take a woman to the final 3 to be PC.

If the others are poseurs, than Loukas is King of the Poseurs.

I'm all for it. I would love for next week to be one cover one original each.

BTW - check out Toby's Juke Kartel stuff. If that stuff isn't where Supernova wants to be, then even they have no idea.

I think I may have not communicated well enough. I am not angry, I actually think the band sucks, their music is horrible. I have stuck by thinking Magni will win and has the strongest vocals to lead them. Ryan, while awkward and going out with a piss poor performance last night, I think can have a semi-decent solo career now because of the show, clearly he didn't have enough before to go anywhere. Of the final six his style intrigued me the most and would be the only one I would even consider listening to. I like the fact that he seems more determined. And lastly I agree that it maybe the best thing for him, I hope he is able to jump right in the studio and drop some dark, demented tracks down nonetheless I am still glad he stuck it to them, or at least edited to make it seem like that.

While I agree her attitude is positive her showmanship is over the top. Where Ryan tried way too hard in his stage performance, whenever the camera is on her she tries way too hard. She almost comes off as a camera whore and it is a turn off.

The memory that I will have of Ryan will be the awful off key screeching at the beginning of The Who song and the sight of him climbing those amps like a toddler learning to walk. I think it was the perfect time for him to go.

I found myself trying to listen to the band during Helter Skelter in spite of the distraction of Storm struggling with the vocals. Her desparate posing throughout the show was annoying as well. We get it ... you have tattoos on your abs. You must be a cool rocker.

A double elimination would have been just fine with me because choosing between the two is more about who is worst not who is best.

I actually really enjoyed Toby's rendition of "Rebel Yell" both times. I think he is getting more natural in his performance, and knows how to get the audience involved. Plus I think he is gonna help those old has been rockers get laid. And isnt that what real rock n roll is about?

I think they will ABSOLUTELY have 1 women in the final three. In fact, last night, you knew Ryan was toast -- no way were they kicking Dilana, and Storm needed to stay on for the demographics. I breathed a sign of relief when Toby got the encore as even if he was Bottom 3, chances were they wouldn't give with one hand and yank it away in the same show.

All Bottom 3 performances last night were simply awful.

Toby is like an eager-to-please puppy -- after what Gilby(?) said to Magni about being cool if he had gone in the back, there goes Toby. I like him -- he may just be the most "pliable" for the band, too.

Was Ryan joking when he said that with him, Supernova could still be making music in 20 years? I found that sort of ridiculous no matter who they choose.

He seemed totally serious to me and I thought it was an ebarrassing thing to say.

Because everyone in the room knew that SN doesn't have a change of lasting 20 days?

Yep. Plus the belief that his involvement would create a legendary band instead.

See, that's exactly what I don't like about Toby. Everything he does seems so calculated to me. That's such a reactionary thing like that, which seems like a blatant kiss up. And his gimmicky stage antics... the megaphone, the girls on stage, the shirt off thing... They are feel way too, I don't know if scripted is the right word... It just feels to me like he's plotted out every nuance of his performance in advance. I had the same vibe with Mig in the INXS edition. I guess to some this is a good thing as it shows an extra level of professionalism, except to me it just reeks of 'fake spontaneity'. He is a talented singer and he seems like an all-around good guy so I don't wish him any ill will. He's just a little too polished for my tastes.

Didn't he even copy that idea from the guy who won last season?