Lost -- "?" -- 05.10.2006
#176
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I doubt it is anything, I just saw it as odd that it changed from a normal curser to the block curser.
Another thing about the whole map Locke saw.

As you can see, whoever drew this was trying to figure out where he was.
If this person was making a map to remember all the hatches and write down as much info as possible of his adventure, why is the center a '?'
Did he assume something was in the center?
If he knew what was there, why not just draw another hatch like the rest?We all saw it is in afct another hatch.
Another thing about the whole map Locke saw.
As you can see, whoever drew this was trying to figure out where he was.
If this person was making a map to remember all the hatches and write down as much info as possible of his adventure, why is the center a '?'
Did he assume something was in the center?
If he knew what was there, why not just draw another hatch like the rest?We all saw it is in afct another hatch.
#177
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Originally Posted by VHS?
I doubt it is anything, I just saw it as odd that it changed from a normal curser to the block curser.
Another thing about the whole map Locke saw.

As you can see, whoever drew this was trying to figure out where he was.
If this person was making a map to remember all the hatches and write down as much info as possible of his adventure, why is the center a '?'
Did he assume something was in the center?
If he knew what was there, why not just draw another hatch like the rest?We all saw it is in afct another hatch.
Another thing about the whole map Locke saw.
As you can see, whoever drew this was trying to figure out where he was.
If this person was making a map to remember all the hatches and write down as much info as possible of his adventure, why is the center a '?'
Did he assume something was in the center?
If he knew what was there, why not just draw another hatch like the rest?We all saw it is in afct another hatch.
#178
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Originally Posted by cupcake jesus
I don't think that Michael's crime was recorded in the Pearl Station, because the attendants were supposed to write everything they saw on the monitors. Maybe it is recorded, and the Pearl Station is some sort of honesty experiment.
I love this show.
cheers,
-the Jesus
I love this show.
cheers,
-the Jesus
#182
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Originally Posted by ben12
Maybe he drew the ? there because he saw the big ? in the grass?
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I also first thought of Michael and "walt's" conversation on the computer when I saw that giant printout, and then when Eko took it... I am pretty sure that it will come about again.
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Originally Posted by The Bus
I'm glad Eko didn't die! 

#186
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That spoiler was up last night on a few sites.If you saw the preview for next week, it isnt so much a spoiler really....but the preview itself for next week is big time!
While watching it I was like Chuck Liddell watching a UFC match,,,twitching and almost falling off the couch
While watching it I was like Chuck Liddell watching a UFC match,,,twitching and almost falling off the couch
#187
Originally Posted by suziq999
I also first thought of Michael and "walt's" conversation on the computer when I saw that giant printout, and then when Eko took it... I am pretty sure that it will come about again.
#188
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Not to mention how Desmond managed to draw the map on the blast door with UV paint/markers.
Okay... we've only seen the blast doors drop once, they didn't stay down for long, and the UV light only came on for a few seconds. Whoever drew that map looks like they worked pretty extensively on it.
If Desmond was into cartography, I would think he would go exploring and then write down whatever he had seen either during or immediately after his trip instead of waiting for the blast doors to drop. And, considering that he did it with UV-visible ink that isn't visible in normal light, he would have had to have drawn it when the UV light was on.
The only way the map makes sense for Desmond to have drawn it is if he could control the blast doors and lights at will. Which we haven't seen any indication of yet.
Why not just draw it on a wall or in regular ink.
And where did he get the UV stuff?
Okay... we've only seen the blast doors drop once, they didn't stay down for long, and the UV light only came on for a few seconds. Whoever drew that map looks like they worked pretty extensively on it.
If Desmond was into cartography, I would think he would go exploring and then write down whatever he had seen either during or immediately after his trip instead of waiting for the blast doors to drop. And, considering that he did it with UV-visible ink that isn't visible in normal light, he would have had to have drawn it when the UV light was on.
The only way the map makes sense for Desmond to have drawn it is if he could control the blast doors and lights at will. Which we haven't seen any indication of yet.
Why not just draw it on a wall or in regular ink.
And where did he get the UV stuff?
#189
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Originally Posted by pinata242
I find it hard to believe that Desmond could get from the Swan and back within 108 minutes to any of those places, let alone enough to come up with this map.
Also, we are assuming that ABOVE ground. If the hatches are somehow connected, the travel time may be significantly less.
#190
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Not to mention how Desmond managed to draw the map on the blast door with UV paint/markers.
Okay... we've only seen the blast doors drop once, they didn't stay down for long, and the UV light only came on for a few seconds. Whoever drew that map looks like they worked pretty extensively on it.
If Desmond was into cartography, I would think he would go exploring and then write down whatever he had seen either during or immediately after his trip instead of waiting for the blast doors to drop. And, considering that he did it with UV-visible ink that isn't visible in normal light, he would have had to have drawn it when the UV light was on.
The only way the map makes sense for Desmond to have drawn it is if he could control the blast doors and lights at will. Which we haven't seen any indication of yet.
Why not just draw it on a wall or in regular ink.
And where did he get the UV stuff?
Okay... we've only seen the blast doors drop once, they didn't stay down for long, and the UV light only came on for a few seconds. Whoever drew that map looks like they worked pretty extensively on it.
If Desmond was into cartography, I would think he would go exploring and then write down whatever he had seen either during or immediately after his trip instead of waiting for the blast doors to drop. And, considering that he did it with UV-visible ink that isn't visible in normal light, he would have had to have drawn it when the UV light was on.
The only way the map makes sense for Desmond to have drawn it is if he could control the blast doors and lights at will. Which we haven't seen any indication of yet.
Why not just draw it on a wall or in regular ink.
And where did he get the UV stuff?
Is Desmond into cartography? Well, I can't imagine you take a trip (or race, was it) around the world unless you have at least a passing fancy.
#191
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
It does seem unlikely, but there's really no other way to interpret that comment on the map.
Also, we are assuming that ABOVE ground. If the hatches are somehow connected, the travel time may be significantly less.
Also, we are assuming that ABOVE ground. If the hatches are somehow connected, the travel time may be significantly less.
But, I agree, underground travel would be much faster than above. Set a timer for 50 minutes and jet.
#192
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Originally Posted by ben12
Maybe he drew the ? there because he saw the big ? in the grass?
Again, maybe digging too far, but just putting a timeline on it.
#193
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
It does say that on the blast door map. We were talking about that this morning at work.
http://www.lostlinks.net/images/blastdoor.jpg
http://www.lostlinks.net/images/blastdoor.jpg
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Originally Posted by kenny79
Throwing this out there -- who drew the blast door map, and how? Desmond? Obviously it had to be down for a long time to write everything. And why draw it on a door that's only seen for a few seconds?
#195
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Originally Posted by kenny79
Throwing this out there -- who drew the blast door map, and how? Desmond? Obviously it had to be down for a long time to write everything. And why draw it on a door that's only seen for a few seconds?
#196
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Very true.No need to have to worry about the button if you have two peolpe.
Another thing I saw on another board that may be possible.
Marvin Candle - Swan video - Fake arm
Mark Wickman - Pearl video - Real arm
Twins? ( bad twin book )
Is one a clone of the other?
Another thing I saw on another board that may be possible.
Marvin Candle - Swan video - Fake arm
Mark Wickman - Pearl video - Real arm
Twins? ( bad twin book )
Is one a clone of the other?
#197
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Originally Posted by VHS?
Very true.No need to have to worry about the button if you have two peolpe.
Another thing I saw on another board that may be possible.
Marvin Candle - Swan video - Fake arm
Mark Wickman - Pearl video - Real arm
Twins? ( bad twin book )
Is one a clone of the other?
Another thing I saw on another board that may be possible.
Marvin Candle - Swan video - Fake arm
Mark Wickman - Pearl video - Real arm
Twins? ( bad twin book )
Is one a clone of the other?
Theory: Primary Dharma Research Project - Cloning
I am convinced that cloning is a major part of Dharma and LOST. Here are the clues that lead me to this theory:
1) Gary Troup's book "Bad Twin". Gary Troup was on Oceanic 815. He was the author of the manuscript Sawyer is reading. That book is titled "Bad Twin" - a reference to cloning. Even more telling, from the book's description - "Truth itself is up for grabs, as the detective's discoveries seem to challenge everything we think we know about identity, and human nature, and family. As Artisan journeys across the globe to track down the bad twin, he seems to have moved into a mirror-world where friends and enemies have a way of looking very much alike".
2) One of the passwords given to us by Persephone on the Hanso Foundation site is "Missing Organs". Missing organs are a known issue in cloning.
3) Marvin Candle / Mark Wickman. The same person appears in both the Swan and Pearl station orientation videos, but calls himself by different names. However, in the Swan video, Candle is missing his right arm. Again, deformaties and missing limbs / organs are one of the issues of cloning.
4) Locke can walk, Rose no longer has cancer, Jin is no longer impotent, etc. Could the island have cured them? Possibly. However, if the Locke, Rose and Jin that are on the island *are* clones, then they wouldn't have those medical issues.
5) The memory interconnections. Clones wouldn't have the memories of their originals. So these memories would have to be implanted (e.g., Total Recall). However, the program has either glitches or is purposefully implanting memories of the other Losties. There are far too many interconnections for this to be a coincidence. It would also explain why some of the Others / Dharma researchers are appearing in these memories (after the season finale, you will see further proof of this).
6)
Spoiler:
#198
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
It does seem unlikely, but there's really no other way to interpret that comment on the map.
Still unlikely, but that does make it more plausible.
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I was all for the clone theory for some time now.The only issue I had with it was the memory issue.But having read that and the 'Total Recall' reference, it makes sense to think it is very possible.
I was also going for a 'Matrix' theme but there were to many holes in that theory.
I was also going for a 'Matrix' theme but there were to many holes in that theory.
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
That is now my #1 theory:
Theory: Primary Dharma Research Project - Cloning
I am convinced that cloning is a major part of Dharma and LOST. Here are the clues that lead me to this theory:
1) Gary Troup's book "Bad Twin". Gary Troup was on Oceanic 815. He was the author of the manuscript Sawyer is reading. That book is titled "Bad Twin" - a reference to cloning. Even more telling, from the book's description - "Truth itself is up for grabs, as the detective's discoveries seem to challenge everything we think we know about identity, and human nature, and family. As Artisan journeys across the globe to track down the bad twin, he seems to have moved into a mirror-world where friends and enemies have a way of looking very much alike".
2) One of the passwords given to us by Persephone on the Hanso Foundation site is "Missing Organs". Missing organs are a known issue in cloning.
3) Marvin Candle / Mark Wickman. The same person appears in both the Swan and Pearl station orientation videos, but calls himself by different names. However, in the Swan video, Candle is missing his right arm. Again, deformaties and missing limbs / organs are one of the issues of cloning.
4) Locke can walk, Rose no longer has cancer, Jin is no longer impotent, etc. Could the island have cured them? Possibly. However, if the Locke, Rose and Jin that are on the island *are* clones, then they wouldn't have those medical issues.
5) The memory interconnections. Clones wouldn't have the memories of their originals. So these memories would have to be implanted (e.g., Total Recall). However, the program has either glitches or is purposefully implanting memories of the other Losties. There are far too many interconnections for this to be a coincidence. It would also explain why some of the Others / Dharma researchers are appearing in these memories (after the season finale, you will see further proof of this).
6)
Theory: Primary Dharma Research Project - Cloning
I am convinced that cloning is a major part of Dharma and LOST. Here are the clues that lead me to this theory:
1) Gary Troup's book "Bad Twin". Gary Troup was on Oceanic 815. He was the author of the manuscript Sawyer is reading. That book is titled "Bad Twin" - a reference to cloning. Even more telling, from the book's description - "Truth itself is up for grabs, as the detective's discoveries seem to challenge everything we think we know about identity, and human nature, and family. As Artisan journeys across the globe to track down the bad twin, he seems to have moved into a mirror-world where friends and enemies have a way of looking very much alike".
2) One of the passwords given to us by Persephone on the Hanso Foundation site is "Missing Organs". Missing organs are a known issue in cloning.
3) Marvin Candle / Mark Wickman. The same person appears in both the Swan and Pearl station orientation videos, but calls himself by different names. However, in the Swan video, Candle is missing his right arm. Again, deformaties and missing limbs / organs are one of the issues of cloning.
4) Locke can walk, Rose no longer has cancer, Jin is no longer impotent, etc. Could the island have cured them? Possibly. However, if the Locke, Rose and Jin that are on the island *are* clones, then they wouldn't have those medical issues.
5) The memory interconnections. Clones wouldn't have the memories of their originals. So these memories would have to be implanted (e.g., Total Recall). However, the program has either glitches or is purposefully implanting memories of the other Losties. There are far too many interconnections for this to be a coincidence. It would also explain why some of the Others / Dharma researchers are appearing in these memories (after the season finale, you will see further proof of this).
6)
Spoiler:
It could also explain why some characters are considered good and some bad. They took the clones.
It also explains why jack saw his dad, eko his brother. They're bodies landed on the island, they could have made clones of them.
Damn, this makes more sense then all of the other theories. I think you guys figured it out.



