Lost -- "?" -- 05.10.2006
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Originally Posted by TheGodfather
We shouldn't be so quick to assume it was Desmond who drew the map. The Swan-ees were supposed to be there for quite some time before being replaced. I'm sure anyone would get a little curious about the rest of the island and/or the nature of their "job". I'm likely to believe whoever drew the map didn't do so while he/she was alone in the hatch.
#227
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Originally Posted by heimerSWT
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=51973
Unless Dharma/Hanso found a way to create instant adults with our Lost characters, then the cloning theory would have to go wayyyy back many years with some of the older people on the show.
Unless Dharma/Hanso found a way to create instant adults with our Lost characters, then the cloning theory would have to go wayyyy back many years with some of the older people on the show.
#228
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Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
They have answered several, in fact.
#229
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Agreed. But some folks will never be satisfied until ALL the questions are answered IN FULL. (Series finale fodder)
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Originally Posted by Mike1055
Maybe when the accident or incident ( whatever the guy in the training film mentioned ) happened somebody was trapped behind the blast doors for a while and had time on their hands and drew the map then.
Some questions concerning the clone theory...
So why were the survivors broken in to two groups? If they were cloned and replaced or what not, why not bring them all back together in the same place?
Why take Walt, if he was a clone why release him in the first place?
Why would Michael be sent to kill AL(assuming that is what happened)?
#231
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Originally Posted by raKim
What I don't get (among 2 trillion other things) is why draw it with only blacklight visible paint/ink? Like it was being hidden from someone? The only way to draw and subsequently view it would be with those blacklights on...
Some questions concerning the clone theory...
So why were the survivors broken in to two groups? If they were cloned and replaced or what not, why not bring them all back together in the same place?
Why take Walt, if he was a clone why release him in the first place?
Why would Michael be sent to kill AL(assuming that is what happened)?
Some questions concerning the clone theory...
So why were the survivors broken in to two groups? If they were cloned and replaced or what not, why not bring them all back together in the same place?
Why take Walt, if he was a clone why release him in the first place?
Why would Michael be sent to kill AL(assuming that is what happened)?
Clone Theory
1) NONE of the tallies besides the children were good people. They probably wanted them to die. They had a MUCH worse time on their side of the island.
2) I actually don't think the children ARE clones, I think the children are originals.
3) Michael was went to kill AL because she killed Goodwin and least one other person. It was revenge, pure and simple.
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
3) Michael was went to kill AL because she killed Goodwin and least one other person. It was revenge, pure and simple.
I'm not sure Michael was sent to kill AL.....I think he was sent back to free Henry Gale. Killing AL and possibly Libby was the way to free Henry.
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There are a thousand ways Michael could have gone about freeing Gale without killing Ana-Lucia. I think her death may very well have been "part of the package" (whereas Libby was collataral damage).
Conventional wisdom tells us that Michael is probably being used as a pawn by the Others as a way to get back Walt. But if it were up to me, I'd much rather learn that he met the Others, was enraptured by them, and joined them voluntarily.
Spoiler for the film Saw:
Conventional wisdom tells us that Michael is probably being used as a pawn by the Others as a way to get back Walt. But if it were up to me, I'd much rather learn that he met the Others, was enraptured by them, and joined them voluntarily.
Spoiler for the film Saw:
Spoiler:
#234
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Originally Posted by Groucho
There are a thousand ways Michael could have gone about freeing Gale without killing Ana-Lucia. I think her death may very well have been "part of the package" (whereas Libby was collataral damage).
Conventional wisdom tells us that Michael is probably being used as a pawn by the Others as a way to get back Walt. But if it were up to me, I'd much rather learn that he met the Others, was enraptured by them, and joined them voluntarily.
Conventional wisdom tells us that Michael is probably being used as a pawn by the Others as a way to get back Walt. But if it were up to me, I'd much rather learn that he met the Others, was enraptured by them, and joined them voluntarily.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
There are a thousand ways Michael could have gone about freeing Gale without killing Ana-Lucia. I think her death may very well have been "part of the package" (whereas Libby was collataral damage).
Conventional wisdom tells us that Michael is probably being used as a pawn by the Others as a way to get back Walt. But if it were up to me, I'd much rather learn that he met the Others, was enraptured by them, and joined them voluntarily.
Conventional wisdom tells us that Michael is probably being used as a pawn by the Others as a way to get back Walt. But if it were up to me, I'd much rather learn that he met the Others, was enraptured by them, and joined them voluntarily.
I still think that Michael saw his first chance to get Henry out when few people were around was when he was alone with Ana Lucia. If the others wanted revenge for someone killing there own...Michael would have been sent back to kill someone (like Charlie) as revenge for killing Ethan.
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Originally Posted by HerdfanWV
I still think that Michael saw his first chance to get Henry out when few people were around was when he was alone with Ana Lucia. If the others wanted revenge for someone killing there own...Michael would have been sent back to kill someone (like Charlie) as revenge for killing Ethan.
Ethan could be part of a different group of others. As some people have said before, I think there are two groups of others. I believe Micheal was found by one group of others. He was told he needs to do the following to get Walt back:
1) Kill AL
2) Free fake Henry Gale
3) Convince the Lost group to attack the other group of others
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#237
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I would have bought that theory except for the fact that Michael seemed horrified by what he was doing to AL and Libby.
Exactly, especially on the part of Libby - he is clearly shocked by the fact that he just shot her.
I believe that Michael is under the influence of brainwashing, or some form of mind control. (Anyone ever see Manchurian Candidate?) It's like he can see what is happening and what he's doing, but clearly has little control over it. He's pretty much shaking when he fires the gun at AL, and also when he goes to shoot himself in the arm - as if he doesn't truly want to, but can't stop himself from doing it anyway.
Clearly the Others had him - too much of a coincidence that he just shows up after Jack makes his challenge to them. Also, here's something else to ponder - he left with a gun (rifle) but did anyone see him come back with it? If not, what happend to it?
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#238
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the showrunners announce at one point, either late last season or early this season, that "the reason they crashed" was going to be revealed as the S2 season capper? Did I misremember or misunderstand?
I haven't heard any mention of that again in the run-up to the finale (nor have I seen the previews) but I'm wondering if others remember that as well, and if it looks to still hold true...
I haven't heard any mention of that again in the run-up to the finale (nor have I seen the previews) but I'm wondering if others remember that as well, and if it looks to still hold true...
#239
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
1) NONE of the tallies besides the children were good people. They probably wanted them to die. They had a MUCH worse time on their side of the island.
3) Michael was went to kill AL because she killed Goodwin and least one other person. It was revenge, pure and simple.
Eko killed a couple, and Charlie pumped Ethan up with lead.
#240
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Eko killed a couple, and Charlie pumped Ethan up with lead.
I always thought they were in the process of taking Eko because he is "good" when he killed them.
i could be wrong, but thats what i thought. I need to watch early season 2 episodes again.
#241
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Originally Posted by LeeVing
I always thought they were in the process of taking Eko because he is "good" when he killed them.
The process of determining who's "good" and who's "bad" seems inexact, probably just based on impressions of people and what is known of their background. Remember that Henry said that Goodwin tried to persuade the Others that Ana Lucia was "good," just "misunderstood."
#242
Originally Posted by adamblast
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the showrunners announce at one point, either late last season or early this season, that "the reason they crashed" was going to be revealed as the S2 season capper? Did I misremember or misunderstand?
I haven't heard any mention of that again in the run-up to the finale (nor have I seen the previews) but I'm wondering if others remember that as well, and if it looks to still hold true...
I haven't heard any mention of that again in the run-up to the finale (nor have I seen the previews) but I'm wondering if others remember that as well, and if it looks to still hold true...
#243
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They better show why they crashed. They mentioned early on that this would be explained at seasons end. It looks and seems that theyre trying to wiggle out of that and hope that we forget.
Rumored spoiler for the Season Finale:
Rumored spoiler for the Season Finale:
Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
They better show why they crashed. They mentioned early on that this would be explained at seasons end. It looks and seems that theyre trying to wiggle out of that and hope that we forget.
Rumored spoiler for the Season Finale:
Rumored spoiler for the Season Finale:
Spoiler:
If that happens... my initial thought is "how totally lame."
#245
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Lost is the cover story this week in Entertainment Weekly. There's lots of spoilers there. They also mention the fact that the ratings have dipped quite a bit and they don't quite no how much to divulge over time. They better start fast or it won't make it to season 4.
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
Lost is the cover story this week in Entertainment Weekly. There's lots of spoilers there. They also mention the fact that the ratings have dipped quite a bit and they don't quite no how much to divulge over time. They better start fast or it won't make it to season 4.
I think it is a 50-50 split between revealing the plot and the lack of consistent showings.
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
1) NONE of the tallies besides the children were good people. They probably wanted them to die. They had a MUCH worse time on their side of the island.
As for the clone theory, I think it is a huge red herring. The book clue is too obvious, and also last year (before season 1 had finished airing) there was one of those fake script pages on the official ABC site about Jack being chased/attacked by someone who ended up being someone who looked just like him. I think all of those little hidden things on the ABC Lost site last year were deliberate red herrings.
#249
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Heres another supposed spoiler I read. It's a slightly different take on what I posted earlier but if true would be rather strange.
Spoiler:
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#250
Originally Posted by SonOfAStu
Dude, you're getting really annoying trying to get people to notice that you have "inside knowledge". Congrats, now shut the fuck up and stop talking about shit that's coming in future episodes.
Thanks.



