Lost -- "Fire + Water" -- 01.25.2006
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
I see Charlie getting progrerssivly crazier and further ostracized...forcing him out of the camp, and perhaps INTO the others...BUT if they just completly drop this storyline, then this sucked
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
I see Charlie getting progrerssivly crazier and further ostracized...forcing him out of the camp, and perhaps INTO the others...BUT if they just completly drop this storyline, then this sucked
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From: Formerly known as Groucho AND Bandoman/Death Moans, Iowa
Originally Posted by Achtung
Charlie says he isn't using, so I assume he isn't at this time. Still not so cool of Locke to beat him down like that, his character seems to be changing a lot more. It's like the creators knew people were big fans of him, so they thought they should make him more of a badass. Isn't working though. And whatever he's doing with the guns looks like bad news.
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Originally Posted by resinrats
Ha Ha. Charlie's brother got the crappy version of Voltron. He didn't get the cool one with the legs that fold up to form Voltron. Still cool to see a Voltron reference.
Originally Posted by Autumn
On the show Extra, they said that tonight's episode will show
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Pretty slow ep overall, with all that these people have seen on this island, you would think they would give a little more credibility to Charlie's dreams. Echo did, but not enough to stand up for Charlie as Locke beat the crap out of him. Still was enough for Claire to go get the baptism, which may end up saving the child in the end. Hope they build off this ep, otherwise it wasnt very worthwhile, as others stated. Now we get a break, anyone see a schedule for new eps?
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Originally Posted by RichC2
Yeah, I'm actually in the same boat there. If they develop off this episode, good ep. If not, then it was a wasted filler.
As of right now, I'd rate it easily as my least favorite episode of Lost thus far. Totally pointless flashback, nothing about any island plot lines (but at least they did mention the conversation with the others in the Jack-AL scene instead of acting like nothing had happend as in the past) and no character development outside of the Charlie going crazy shit, so they better build off that.
Guess there was some mild development with Hurley and Libby, and Jack-Ana Lucia, but that was already started rolling last episode so nothing new.
But like you say, it will move up in my rankings if they build of Charlie's story here and it's something important.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Why didn't Locke just destroy the heroin? Obviously, that plot point will return sometime.
Of course they could tie it in to Eko or someone else later on, but I have a feeling it will just come back to Charlie again.
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Originally Posted by taa455
I missed it tonight. Sounds like nothing much happened. Why did Locke beat down Charlie?
Then he talked to Eko and was convinced the baby had to be baptized, Claire didn't want anything to do with him after the prior episode and Kate pushed him away from her when he was yelling at her that he had to get Aaron baptized.
So he started a fire at night as a diversion and took the baby, Locke sees him/hears Claire yelling. Gets him to give him the baby, hands it to Claire and then beats the shit out of Charlie.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Definitely.
As of right now, I'd rate it easily as my least favorite episode of Lost thus far. Totally pointless flashback, nothing about any island plot lines (but at least they did mention the conversation with the others in the Jack-AL scene instead of acting like nothing had happend as in the past) and no character development outside of the Charlie going crazy shit, so they better build off that.
Guess there was some mild development with Hurley and Libby, and Jack-Ana Lucia, but that was already started rolling last episode so nothing new.
But like you say, it will move up in my rankings if they build of Charlie's story here and it's something important.
As of right now, I'd rate it easily as my least favorite episode of Lost thus far. Totally pointless flashback, nothing about any island plot lines (but at least they did mention the conversation with the others in the Jack-AL scene instead of acting like nothing had happend as in the past) and no character development outside of the Charlie going crazy shit, so they better build off that.
Guess there was some mild development with Hurley and Libby, and Jack-Ana Lucia, but that was already started rolling last episode so nothing new.
But like you say, it will move up in my rankings if they build of Charlie's story here and it's something important.
I listened to the this week's podcast yesterday. Carlton and Damon said that they were going to develop more of the major characters with these next couple of eps.
notice how tonight's ep, 2 days went by, and the last day went by in about 10 minutes.
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
Like i said a few weeks back, I think we're going to see Eko is a bad man who was saved by faith, and Locke was a good man who is being corrupted by it.
Now what that has to do with the rest of the storyline, well, beats me.
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Meh. Not a big fan of Merry or his backstory. I still wish he would've haymakered Kate as she was pushing him away from Claire though.
Where does Hurley know LIbby from? Did she appear on his episode?
Where does Hurley know LIbby from? Did she appear on his episode?
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Why didn't Locke just destroy the heroin? Obviously, that plot point will return sometime.
And on an island with limited resources, it's not a good idea to destroy something that may be useful.
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When Charlie pulled his hood over his head at the end, gave me an Anakin/Vader flashback.
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Which is unfortunate as I think most everyone is sick of that plot. I liked Charlie, but they've got to do something else with his plot, the heroin bit is played out.
This episode was trash.
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Originally Posted by whotony
anyone can baptize someone, dont have to be a priest to do it.

Chris
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Originally Posted by Bludvls33
Still was enough for Claire to go get the baptism, which may end up saving the child in the end.
Now we get a break, anyone see a schedule for new eps?
Now we get a break, anyone see a schedule for new eps?
36. 2-12 212 25 Jan 06 Fire + Water
37. 2-13 213 8 Feb 06 The Long Con
38. 2-14 214 15 Feb 06 One of Them
39. 2-15 215 15 Feb 06 Maternity Leave
Chris
Edited to add: A person is not saved and goes to Heaven because of Baptism, a person is Saved thru Faith in Jesus Christ. Simple as that!
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I did like how libby remarked that the washer and dryer seemed way newer than anything on the island and they are, I think they are probably tops 2-3 years on the market...
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Originally Posted by HE Pennypacker
Who wrote this episode? The exchange between Jack and Anna Lucia was GOD AWFUL.
"You hittin' that?"
"You're hot, she's hot..."
"that's what people do"
Decent episode, but that scene had some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard. Yikes.
"You hittin' that?"
"You're hot, she's hot..."
"that's what people do"
Decent episode, but that scene had some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard. Yikes.
Yes this was embarrassingly bad. The worst dialogue exchange in the series.
...and there's been some bad ones.
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
Edited to add: A person is not saved and goes to Heaven because of Baptism, a person is Saved thru Faith in Jesus Christ. Simple as that!

This episode was written by Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis. They previously wrote "Born to Run" (the one with the Kate flashback about getting that guy she loved killed) and "Everybody Hates Hugo" (the one where he is in charge of the food and he has that dream where Jin speaks English). Nothing much happened in either one.
I agree with everyone else. This episode was horrific. Charlie going batshit fails the "would he really?" test.
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Originally Posted by Achtung
I agree. Eko definitely seems to be filling the void that Locke is leaving behind as well. I get the feeling the two could have an altercation at some point.
Now what that has to do with the rest of the storyline, well, beats me.
Now what that has to do with the rest of the storyline, well, beats me.
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
This, according to epguides.com
36. 2-12 212 25 Jan 06 Fire + Water
37. 2-13 213 8 Feb 06 The Long Con
38. 2-14 214 15 Feb 06 One of Them
39. 2-15 215 15 Feb 06 Maternity Leave
Chris
Edited to add: A person is not saved and goes to Heaven because of Baptism, a person is Saved thru Faith in Jesus Christ. Simple as that!
36. 2-12 212 25 Jan 06 Fire + Water
37. 2-13 213 8 Feb 06 The Long Con
38. 2-14 214 15 Feb 06 One of Them
39. 2-15 215 15 Feb 06 Maternity Leave
Chris
Edited to add: A person is not saved and goes to Heaven because of Baptism, a person is Saved thru Faith in Jesus Christ. Simple as that!
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