Pissed. I'm getting pissed at the show. It's getting kind of 'lost' with continuity.

I'm probably the only one who finds Hurley annoying as hell and unfunny. His pee on my foot comment that so many found funny just sounded stupid to me. I'm a Sawyer man. Sawyer should play Gambit in X3.

The monster is not good. Problems/resolutions? Resolve what? Resolve Pilot Weiss to die? I don't think it's the monster in as much as it's probably the island. The island, not the salve, made Boone hallucinate. But the monster's real. That huge chunk of ground flying up was the best part of the episode.

If Boone and Locke have been going out in the woods for four days, why the hell haven't they uncovered more than the 5 sq foot of the damn thing? Ridiculous. And I guess no one cares about the preggers Aussie chick any more. An evil force is definitely setting up shop on Isle Dupris.........

Obviously many just looking at this thread, not to mention all the others. I was just about to comment on the lack of speculation on this topic...

I dunno...when I was in high school there was this one pretty hot chick with tig ol' bitties. It's rumored that her brother in law, also in our class, rode that wile thang.

If so, to him. Nothin' better than a hot sis in law to ease the sadness of having to grow up through a divorce, I guess.

I'd have to disagree with the continuity comment. Oh, and I think Hurley wasn't trying to be funny:
If it's true, and I don't know if it is, why does it sound stupid? And, while I do like the guy that plays Sawyer and think he could do a good job as Gambit [with brown hair, of course], I pray that Gambit isn't in the next X flick. I've hated that character since he was introduced with a de-aged Storm.How are you sure it was the island and not the salve that made Boone hallucinate? How are you sure the "monsters" are the same thing? Did I miss something?

Also, about the uncovering....you did hear Locke's "Michelangelo" story, right?

But, after all this...I WILL agree with you on one thing...they all seem to have forgotten about Claire too easily...it's been like a week, right?

i feel ya

I understand why he said it, but you have to know they put that in there for sheer comedic value, and it was stupid, instead. Why not just pee on your own foot? I'd prefer my own pee to someone else's.

For that statement, sir, you get a big . Come ON! Gambit's a good character that actually kicked ass, as opposed to all other characters that came out in the last twenty five years. Maggot? Marrow? Joseph? All of 'em. They all suck. Bishop's the only exception. Well, Cable, too, I guess. Plus, with Remy, ya have that whole "Is he Cyclops' brother" thing, too.

I'm hypothesizing. Based on Locke's "That's what it made you see" statement. Salve is not sentient. It can't 'make' you do, anything. Why wouldn't he have just said, "That's what you saw" if it was the salve?

Yes, I heard it. Why, then, would you walk all the way out there just to sit and look at for days on end? I'm sure that would get old as shit after an hour. AND I'm sure Boone wouldn't have stood for it.

I'd have a posse already. Forgetting about Claire is one thing...forgetting about Ethan is another matter entirely.

Funniest line of the night.

or The Real World Philadelphia AKA The Gay Season

I'm SURE a certain Southern Belle slipped your mind....right?

And, back OT...as someone mentioned, perhaps now Boone will stare with Locke [as another converted "disciple"]...

It wasn't the pee on my foot line that made it funny as much as his pointing at Jin's crotch and then his foot, trying to get him to understand If Jin spoke English, it wouldn't have been funny at all to me.

I don't think Boone's experience was drug induced. Jack already had his experience burying his father. He wasn't on anything, was he?

I didn't have it figured out that it was basically a dream sequence, but I wasn't surprised at all that once he got back to the camp that Shannon was there. I'm sure plenty of people guessed that it wasn't really happening. I think it's pretty safe to say at this point Locke isn't evil and won't turn evil, but he's going to have to fight everyone's suspicions that he is.

I'm pretty sure Sawyer was being locked up for a bar fight cuz he said "it was his bottle I was just giving it back to him". Which sounds like a smart ass way of saying "I just broke a bottle over his head. I'm ever so sorry sir".

blah.. it was soooo clearly a clonk on the head and slapping a drug in him that I only sort of half assed watch the trip he was on being I was sure he was hallucinating. I mean when Locke was talking about just being out there for hours and hours, as he ground something up.. Boone asking "What's that?" and being told "Oh that's for later".. I was already starting to think they were going to go on some drug trip as part of the whole do nothing and wait idea..

so when Locke popped him and slapped a bunch of stuff on his head, and the way that he did it I was already pretty sure it was going to be some sort of drung on him. Then when the sisters voice comes for all over, never mind being all of a sudden tied up in a snap of the fingers (that how I saw it anyways, did not think of a time laps, maybe I should have?) I was 100% sure it was a drug trip..

only issue now, looking back, after reading some of these message is if the flash back with in the mind trip were real or not? No real way to know.. At least if the details were dead on or not. He might of only wanted to bang his hot hot hot HOT step sister (I'm an only child so that does not set off the pervert alarm as I guess it should, my bad)

as for the "it" locke talks about being the monster (a half zombie half mech t-rex right? heh) I think it was clear the "it" was the drug and not just locke leaving him out there for the island to mess with.. IMO of course, your guys guess are as good as mine..

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Locke: Is that what it made you see.
Boone: That stuff you put on my head, you drugged me?

Locke: I gave you an experience I believed was vital to your survive on this island.
Boone: It wasn't real?

Locke: It was only as real as you made it.

Well, I watch TV in my living room and think it's stupid to have to run upstairs to my computer and to prove an unnecessary point, especially when I have friends over watching the show with me. "Be back in a second! Otherwise DarkestPhoenix will never believe that I've figured out the gratingly obvious course this episode is taking!" Sorry, even I am not that pathetic. I don't have a history of posting any sort of "ha! I'm so much more clever than the rest of you" tripe and don't feel I have anything to prove. On the completely opposite end of the spectrum, I like to be misdirected, as long as the way the show gets there is credible. Veronica Mars is a show that I think handles this brilliantly. I just thought the attempt last night on Lost was botched. Like I said before, if you fell for it, great -- the show did its job, at least for you. I spend so much time watching TV and movies that if I've learned one lesson, it's to be suspicious of ridiculous-seeming events after a character's been konked on the head. If you're of the mindset that just because you didn't catch on that somehow no one could have...I don't really get that, but I guess it wouldn't be much of a message board without a wide variety of personalities.

Again, the reason I picked up on it being a dream (or-something-similarly-not-real) is because the whole scenario's stupid. Locke's statement about Boone grabbing the knife when he's properly motivated does not, at least for me, lead to Locke going to the beach, kidnapping Shannon without anyone noticing, dragging her four miles into the jungle, and tying her to a tree. If it were something else -- anything else -- I might have been fooled too. If Shannon had stumbled into the woods to spy on the two of them, somehow getting trapped/stuck/injured/whatever in the process, then I'd buy it. Locke's whole spiel seemed to revolve around Boone mustering some sort of personal strength, and kidnapping Shannon in a moustache-twirlingly-devious turn to make Boone want to reach for a knife seems overly ridiculous to me. I didn't get everything to the last detail (I thought none of it happened at all, whereas we find out that just the hallucinations of Shannon were false; I didn't blame the island or the salve Locke used; I'm sure a number of other things), but...whatever.

I think Hurley was referring to that episode of Survivor: Marquesas where John the nurse got bit, and Kathy pissed on his foot to help him out.

The other funny sight gag was seeing Jin trying to get Hurley out of the water, Hurley about crushed him.

This is how it was in our house, except my wife kept questioning the reality of the situation. Once he found her "body" we gave in and believed. Excellent job, excellent episode.

And while I could obviously be wrong, I think the salve/drug is irrelevant. It is the island, however it manifests, that is behind all of the strange happenings and awakenings. Locke confronted it and did so without any drugs. He simply enabled Boone to do the same thing. I also am certain the flashback scenes were real, but again open for discussion.

All I have to say is if you kill my sister (or if I'm 100% sure you did), you're not going to be able to stop me from stabbing you in your face and neck repeatedly. Especially if you're an old man.

I thought it was a good episode, but this is the second time in 3 shows that they've teased killing off a major character only to swerve us in the end. I hope they don't rely on that too much, because it's really going to lessen the effect when they actually do it.

-Paul Jacobi-

Charlie is #1, Boone would be #2


As to what caused the halucinations, I thought it was the salve at first but after thinking about it I'm starting to doubt that theory. It would have to be incredibly potent for Boone to absorb enough to trip through his head wound.

From www.spoilerfix.com:

Each “Lost” writer had to pull three names out of a hat. [Lost writer Paul] Dini got Locke, Sawyer and Sun and was instructed to write a history for each of the three. Dini says Locke having the same name as the philosopher is not a coincidence. “… the monster is sort of a reflection of yourself. The pilot saw it in horror and he was killed because he feared the monster. Locke saw the monster with true awe, therefore, he was able to survive his encounter,” Dini said. Though we may never see the entire monster, Dini says it may be "a Loch Ness Monster kind of thing.”

I thought that it was pretty obvious that it was some kind of dream sequence as well, since Shannon showed up tied up seemingly immediately (I know that we don't know how much time had passed, but by the amount of sunlight, not a lot). I would imagine that someone, like Sayid since he is macking on her, would have noticed if she left with Locke. For Locke to go get her and come back would have taken a few hours, IIRC. But the longer it went on, the more I was leaning to believe it, regardless of how sloppy the scene was carried out. Anyway, since I was not on the computer when I was watching it, I guess I am lying as well

Loved seeing Hurley trying to grab Jin's crotch, telling him to pee on his foot. Great stuff. Poor Hurley gets no respect. He is the pretty much the only one that has mentioned going to the bathroom at all, I think.

Liked seeing Sawyer in the jailhouse scene.

I am thinking that there could be some kind of natural gas coming from somewhere on the island, which could explain some of the hallucinations. Locke definitely does seem like he could be the leader of a cult though, so that would be interesting. We can see that Jack does not really trust him, even though everyone else does.

Boone and Shannon? The closer the kin, the better the skin. Of course, I would not advocate this real life, but since this is a purgatory pennisula with dinosaurs and zombie dads, I say, Go for it, Boone!

Does anyone know what Jin was saying to Hurley?

His mom, her dad.

They were step siblings, people. No blood relation. Technically, they will always be related (by marriage), but they were never and will never be related by blood.

Dude Locke is like Super Warrior. Boone is a pretty boy.

Even though Super warrior has like 25 years on pretty boy...

Super Warrior>pretty boy.

Chill out, bra. I'm just saying that I find it funny that whenever there's a twist in a movie or TV show, the thread fills up with people claiming to have figured it out in the first 17 seconds.

you remember how big Hurley is right? it's going to be very difficult for him to pee on the bottom of him own foot.