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Old 02-02-04 | 11:51 AM
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I read just fine.

People were commenting that the rating for the game did not reflect what happened.

I say that after watching an afternoon of violent football and crappy commercials, Janet's boob is really not that big of a deal.
Then you are wrong
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Old 02-02-04 | 11:52 AM
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Someone obviously doesn't remember 3D Elvis Presto circa 1989, presented by Coke

That was great! Super Bowl XXIII - still the best Super Bowl ever! In sunny Miami! Bob Costas and OJ did the pre-game! John Candy was there!
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Old 02-02-04 | 11:56 AM
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Just got this e-mail from Mediaweek. Now the feds are getting in on this:

Feds, Affils Alarmed by CBS Super Bowl Show; Investigation to be Launched

Outraged federal officials on Monday promised a swift investigation of
Sunday's Super Bowl halftime show, which included a display of singer
Janet Jackson's breast, reports Todd Shields.

"I am outraged at what I saw," Federal Communications Chairman Michael
Powell said in a statement. "Like millions of Americans, my family and I
gathered around the television for a celebration. Instead, that
celebration was tainted by a classless, crass and deplorable stunt."

CBS affiliates also expressed dismay. Robert Lee, the head of the CBS
affiliate group, said he had received many telephone calls from fellow
station executives "who are hearing from stations who are hearing from
viewers. The CBS audience is deeply distressed," said Lee, who is
president and general manager of WDBJ in Roanoke, Va.

The halftime show produced by MTV, which like CBS is a unit of Viacom,
featured a duet that ended with singer Justin Timberlake pulling off part
of Jackson's costume to reveal her right breast. MTV in a statement called
the incident "unrehearsed [and] unplanned."

Lee doubted that. "I'd be surprised if it were accidental," he said.

The incident comes as politicians and regulators are increasingly
concerned about broadcast indecency. Congress last week held the first in
what may be a series of hearings on the issue, and lawmakers are
considering increasing the possible fines for decency violations.

"You'd have to be blind and living in a cave not to know the Congress and
the FCC have moved their rewrite of indecency regulations up to the front
burner," Lee said. "An incident such as this just couldn't have come at a
worse time.ö

The halftime show also featured scantily clad, gyrating dancers and
performers including Nelly, P. Diddy and Kid Rock. Lee said viewers and
affiliate executives considered the production to be "lewd, needlessly
suggestive and inappropriate. An awful lot of people were deeply
distressed."

Powell said he had instructed the commission, which levies fines for
broadcast indecency, to "open an immediate investigation."

"Our investigation will be thorough and swift," Powell said.
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Old 02-02-04 | 12:02 PM
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Like many others in here I quit watching when I started hearing songs from eons ago and missed the rolling footage. Does anyone have a link to the video of this? I would like to see how obvious Justin and Janet made it look.
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Old 02-02-04 | 12:25 PM
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Someone obviously doesn't remember 3D Elvis Presto circa 1989, presented by Coke

Or the horror of "Up With People" from 1987 (SB XXI) As bad as P $hitty and Timberlake were, it could be worse people
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Old 02-02-04 | 12:31 PM
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Europe is probably laughing it's collective ass off right now.

oh no.. a boob!

Bill O'riley must have fainted.

-SM
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Old 02-02-04 | 12:32 PM
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Up with People

It seems like they did a couple during the 80s.
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Old 02-02-04 | 12:42 PM
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It was just a boob which we saw for 2 seconds. I'm surprised people didn't complain more about the provocative dance moves.
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Old 02-02-04 | 12:53 PM
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Who cares about this? It's sad when we live in a culture where a game occurs in which two teams give it their all and a last minute play brings a championship and all anyone wants to talk about is someone showing a little flesh in the halftime show.
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Old 02-02-04 | 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Drop
It was just a boob which we saw for 2 seconds.
This is what I disagree with. It wasn't "just a boob" This wasn't some National Geographic special. This was some guy ripping the clothing off of a woman to expose a boob. The boob is hardly important, the way in which it was shown is the most important aspect. (remember guys, "no" means, take it anyway, despite what we tell you in class, learn from our actions).

The same people that have no problem with this seem to be the same type that blame parents when their kids do stuff like this. I don't think we can have it both ways.
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Old 02-02-04 | 01:00 PM
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All this controversy over a boob. Yet if the halftime show showed people shooting guns at each other... we'd all be fine. All you people that disliked the boob, welcome to the 21st century. Get used to it. Now who wants to see my dick?
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Old 02-02-04 | 01:07 PM
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All this controversy over a boob. Yet if the halftime show showed people shooting guns at each other... we'd all be fine. All you people that disliked the boob, welcome to the 21st century. Get used to it. Now who wants to see my dick?

Okay.... this is either going to be closed or moved to the mature section right now.

(I doubt anyone here wants to see what you're offering.)
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Consider the backlash that could eventually effect this forum:

1) Titties on mainstream TV outrage the masses
2) Indecency regulations become a front-burner issue at the FCC
3) The “S” word is no longer tolerated on “broadcast” TV
4) Since TV is considered the arbiter of taste for allowing the “S” word to be used here, it is returned to **** status
5) More posts in the Feedback Forum from folks perennially confused about the concept of “censorship”
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Old 02-02-04 | 01:12 PM
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Personally, I was more offended that they had:
  • a no-talent wanna-be rapper who got off gun possession and bribery charges
  • someone whose command of the english language consists of adding extra "R"'s to words..
  • someone who was singing a song to crackheads, critics, cynics and has heroes in a Methodone Clinic...while wearing a desecrated American flag as a poncho..
But....that's just me.
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Old 02-02-04 | 01:26 PM
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All this controversy over a boob. Yet if the halftime show showed people shooting guns at each other... we'd all be fine.
Yep, that's the single lamest thing about American "morals."
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Old 02-02-04 | 01:52 PM
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If the whole country was liberal then it's not a problem.
But the majority isn't so it's a problem.
Liberals wouldn't like it if at the MTV music awards someone did christain number with a Sodam & Gomorra number in it.

I'm expecting Bush bashing speeches at the Oscars and that's not right.
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Old 02-02-04 | 01:53 PM
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First off, kids probably didn't notice.

Second, they see a breast with GASP! part of a nipple. SO what? I think it's worse they saw about 875 beer commercials telling them how cool they'd be if they drank Bud Light. Why is that not wrong? Because drinking beer to be cool is fine, but seeing a woman's nipple will morally corrupt them?? I'm sure TV's weren't getting turned off when those were on (or the innumerable number of ads featuring erectile dysfunction medicine ) .
There is more nipple action on Friends on any given night. And besides...ALL WOMEN HAVE BREASTS WITH NIPPLES!!

What's wrong with showing a nipple when all you saw was about 80 men's asses in tight pants bending over in a line with their face in some other guy's ass?

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Old 02-02-04 | 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by wm lopez
If the whole country was liberal then it's not a problem.
But the majority isn't so it's a problem.
Liberals wouldn't like it if at the MTV music awards someone did christain number with a Sodam & Gomorra number in it.

I'm expecting Bush bashing speeches at the Oscars and that's not right.
I don't have much a problem with conservatives being lamely (IMO) uptight over nudity. It's just lame that they get up in arms over this, and most of the time don't even bat their eyes at the rampant violence on TV, which IMO is much more damaging for kids to see.

I realize many conservatives do speak out against violence, but nudity, porn, etc. always gets much more publicized criticism in this country.

I'd have no problem with a religious number at the MTV music awards. We have free speech, they can play what they want. I'd just turn the channel. Just like you, and anyone else that feels it's "not right" can turn the channel if someone exercises their right to free speech to bash Bush at the Oscars.
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Old 02-02-04 | 02:08 PM
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Ya know, they advertised a couple dozen times that Britney Spears is gonna be at the Grammys next Sunday. I wonder what she's going to do to top this
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I don't have much a problem with conservatives being lamely (IMO) uptight over nudity. It's just lame that they get up in arms over this, and most of the time don't even bat their eyes at the rampant violence on TV, which IMO is much more damaging for kids to see.
Rampant violence isn't rated E for Everyone. Rampant violence is (usually) as advertised and is easy to keep away from kids.
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Old 02-02-04 | 02:18 PM
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Rampant violence isn't rated E for Everyone. Rampant violence is (usually) as advertised and is easy to keep away from kids.
And what exactly is football? It's pretty violent. I understand that it's sanctioned by those with higher morals because of it's Americana meaning, but it's violent...and kids get exposed to that constantly.
And rampant drinking being advertised is okay for you?
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Old 02-02-04 | 02:25 PM
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And what exactly is football?
A game that is Rated E?
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Rampant violence isn't rated E for Everyone. Rampant violence is (usually) as advertised and is easy to keep away from kids.
I see the point there, but the uproar over this is a gross over reaction IMO.

I'd have no problem with my kid, if I had one, seeing a two-second glimpse of a breast.

It's not like it was porn.
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Old 02-02-04 | 02:28 PM
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Look, no one (well no one that is being reasonable) is saying that it should be banned from television altogether. They're just saying that it isn't appropriate for the audience, and that they dont want MTV, Justin Timberlake, Janet Jackson, or anyone that thnks it is fine for a child to view that to decide for their child what should be seen. Rated E is for Everyone. That dance wasn't for everyone, plain and simple, even if you don't mind your kids watching it.
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Old 02-02-04 | 02:31 PM
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I said I understand it.

I just think it's lame that people in this country are so uptight over nudity, that's all.

It's a difference of opinion.
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