So what's Bunkie been doing while everyone is stabbing everyone in the back?

Is this Bunkie's plan all along? To wait for the mini-groups to implode?

Excellent update! I will have to read the updates ASAP!

They are just mass confusion. I read some a bit this morning, but got a headache from all the crap going on

Yeah it did take a while for me to figure everything out.
Alot of it was because the conversations got so interesting that many people were posting the same thing and some typed faster than others. So you'd have someone post the same conversation 1 hour later because they added more or typed slower or whatever.

Another speculation is that the Skywriting (similar to banner) of:
HEART TRS was not intened for the Houseguests and Will knew something was going on, so he just made it up for an excuse to get Krista to spill the beans. Either way he did a great job and was smart getting this out (although I think he should have kept quiet UNTILL Thursday/Wed night after eviction votes are cast, because if it gets out he is now at MORE risk than he was before).

PATMAN,
About Bunky. Early in the day he was a heavy player in conversations. Because Kent spoke up saying "Don't take your anger out at me on Bunky" because ofcourse Bunky had been complaining to Kent that people don't talk to him (bunky) anymore because of his association with Kent. Now this statement above PISSED people off and it lead to Krista reaming at Bunky for about a 1/2 hour about sticking up for himself, and don't let Kent fight your battles, "you are Kent's bitch!" etc.
And ofcourse Bunky "just wants to be liked" attitude.
Then he talks to Nicole later in the day about why Nicole was made at him (won't give too many details as they just aren't necessary or too long, you'd have to read all the day's live feed updates to get the REAL whole story).

But when evening came basically it was back to Bunky and Kent together just trashing everyone. Because Kent really can't believe he is leaving, because he thinks they should wisen up and get Krista and Hardy out of there. He saw the light before anyone and actually tried to pitch the scenario to Nicole another time, but Nicole wasn't really into listening to it (even though she should have).

Now on for today, it should be interesting to see if Kent goes all out on his speech and see if he lives up to what he said he was going to do at Today's HOUSE MEETING which should be this afternoon.

LIVE UPDATE:

Hardy just came clean to Nicole about the "Untouchables" or in other words his alliance with Krista/Monica.

But he assured Nicole that his new allegiance is to KRISTA and Nicole ONLY not Monica.

Nicole replied "you never told me about this and Monica before, how long was this going on."
Hardy got defensive and angry "It DOESN'T MATTER how long, just know what is NOW and it's me, you and Krista".
Nicole replies: "well I guess I better win HOH this week and get rid of Monica ASAP" since she will nominate Nicole next?!
Hardy: "I still want Bunky to go before Monica, that he is more of a threat for HOH than Monica" (or is this just a "cover")?!

They argue this point a little.

THIS IS GOING ON NOW, so it's still in development or what it will lead to. Or what Nicole will relay back to Will.

Makes you wonder since everything is going in circles, how much will the tv show actually be able to portray correctly!?

LIVE UPDATE:
HOUSE MEETING

KENT BLOWS HIS TOP!!!!!
Kent at the house meeting when got the chance to speak basically recaps Chill TOwn/TOP feud. And the history of the house and Hardy's defaction of TOP. He told his version of Hardy's pecking order: Kent, Bunky, Monica, Nicole,
Leaving Hardy, Krista and Will as final three.
He tells everyone at meeting the only way to stand up to this is to EVICT WILL now and keep him, and him, Bunky, Nicole, and Monica can STILL BE TOP and get rid of Hardy/Krista.

This lead to a HUGE SHOUTING MATCH. With Hardy and Kent both calling each other lying motherf'rs at the top of their lungs.
ANd Kent says well who is it going to be in the finals now then, "you've promised it to everyone".
Will speaks up, "he hasn't told me anything about going anywhere but home!!!!" lol, because one of Kent's proclomations was that Hardy wanted Will in final two so he'd win.
So this is still developing as we speak..................

Interesting show coming up tomorrow night folks!!!!!!!!!

Patman and others,

CHECK THIS OUT:
http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/li...monmeeting.mp3

Click on the "meeting" mp3

It's audio of the meeting and Kent's speech.
Thanks to "Judy" at BBFC.

After that clip is when the yelling started! And I'm sure you can imagine some of their responses.

I hope CBS shows what happened in the Monday meeting in the house because it's a doozy! Kent was making his last gasp plea to stay in the house, and he riled Hardy up so much that Hardy and Kent get in each other's faces yelling at the top of their lungs. It'll make for some great TV.

It seems Will has gotten Nicole on his side, and off the Hardy train.

Hardy's been sleeping with the pig (Ophelia).

Krista and Monica are the only ones "tight" with one another.

Bunkie's "stature" has grown with the rest of the HGs fearing his "intelligence". Maybe that's what Bunkie was talking about in Saturday's show when he was talking about how Hardy SHOULD fear him...

Nicole and Hardy are having tons of foreplay.

Thanks everyone for the updates. SO whats the latest?

By the way, I couldn't open the link posted above.

A banner flew over, and it said something to the effect of "Web C: Krista and Monica plot to evict Hardy". Then Kent goes over to Krista and ask if she think Mike Boogie was sincere in his affections for her, and then Kent brings up Justin being Krista's soulmate, and this pisses off Krista.

Krista wants to talk to Monica about stuff she found out last night.

Nicole might have hurt her wrist with all that foreplay she had with Hardy last night.

Bunkie and Will are comparing notes. Also the others are already plotting as to who will get HoH this Thursday (they all want Bunkie to get it so whoever can get the pivotal HoH next week when only 5 will remain.

Here's a question that has been bugging me.

Why does Krista show up for every nomination meeting in a towel and sunglasses?

The first time it seemed like maybe she was caught coming out of the shower, but now that she does it every week it just intentional.

And she always acts brooding and weird at the nominations too. Unlike her usually bubbly self.

I find the whole behavior rather odd and somewhat forced.

Has anyone else noticed this?

It's her Opalousas Formal Wear

She wears the towel garb for good luck supposedly. She wore it the first week and has ever since on nomination night. At least that is what I have read. She's a drunk, plain and simple.

Tonight's show was an intense nail-biter. I will let someone else give a real spoiler induced summary.

IMO, BB2 makes BB1 look like sh*t.

Show started off kinda slow. They get the pig, and everyone except Monica plays with it (She doesn't like animals). They have the luxury item challenge where they have to be basically blindfolded outside, then they have to go inside and find a dummy and bring it back outside. Its the women vs the men. It was going good for the men until Will basically tore the house up. He hit this table towards the end and it went flying The women won. Later on, Monica and Nicole are playing cards and they are being loud outside. This wakes Bunky up and he comes outside and is snappy with them about keeping it down. This pisses the women off. Later on, Nicole goes inside to get some food and Kent and Bunky are talking and Kent makes some comment like "Can't wait to get out of here, everyone here is a phucking phony" or something to that effect. This pisses off Nicole and she goes outside and tells the rest of the houseguests what Kent was saying.

The next day, Kent and Will are outside talking smack and Nicole somewhat overhears this which pisses her off. She comes in and says to Monica and Krista what is going on and Monica gets pissed saying "I don't need to wake up to this s****!" Kent later comes in and says to some Houseguests "Hey, just because I'm nominated doesn't mean you have to be mean to Bunky. No one said good morning to me, and no one said good morning to Bunky." Monica goes apeshit on Kent. Saying she said good morning to Bunky. Saying she doesn't talk behind people's backs and if anyone has anything to say, say it to her face.

Later on they have the house meeting. Will basically says nothing except "Hey, I know its a game". Kent has his turn and basically says "I've got something to say so please no one interrupt until I am done. Here's the deal if TOP stands together, and want to see the 4 of us stand together, Will did alot of evil things, now he's Hardy Hill's best friend. Hardy's the one you got to get rid of, he's strong. We can decide without sneaking around in the corners, make it majority rules like it was before. This is your last change to get rid of this man, Krista is the only one you have to worry about. If Krista wins, then you've got something to worry about. Your best chance is with the way we did it before."

Hardy and Kent scream at each other. They call each other liars. Hardy says they don't know what he's doing.

Kent yells: Tell them who's number 2, Hardy. Who's going to be standing next to you.

Hardy says raise your hands if I promised anyone anything.
Kent: You're not playing to win, come on.

Hardy insists to the group he is not there to win. He then says "Good way of going out gracefully like you said you would."

and that's how the show ended.


I'm really sick of Kent and his tirades of how he's been honest with everyone when he's been one of the biggest snakes in the house. All I know is I don't want Kent, Bunky, Nicole, Krista, or Monica to win. I'd rather Hardy have the money, but the way Will has turned it around, I wouldn't have a problem seeing him get the loot.

I have to wonder if Mike Boogie was "playing" Krista in the few weeks while he was in the house. What is with those guys who are attracted to Krista? I think Hardy's description of Krista was apt: She's not American's Sweetheart, rather more like a Jerry Springer guest on his shows. Krista is pretty duplicitous (but so are most in the house). Her main problem is that she's a lush with the strange mood swings.

Loved seeing Monica getting all riled up barking at Kent (but she's not too eloquent when it gets that way). Bunky really does play the victim/punching bag rather well

Glad to see the evil Bunky as he was goading Kent on during Kent's Monday meeting practice speech.

Kent's speech was hilarious. I though Hardy was about to cry right then and there.

What last night's show didn't show us is that Nicole has now recruited Bunky into an alliance with her and Will on Monday. Nicole seems to be playing double agent with Hardy after she found out that Hardy was with Krista and Monica in their "Untouchables" alliance. Nicole is rooting for Bunky to win HoH and to nominate Hardy and Will (with Hardy getting the boot). Don't think that's wise, but at this point, it's all about gaining HoH at the right time (which is the week after this week when only 5 will remain).

Anyhow, Bunky could be the sneakiest one out of them all, with Will coming in second. I wonder if the rest of the girls will really rip into each other in the next few weeks.

I couldn't imagine being in this house and having to maintain so many "facades" to all the different houseguests and still maintain my sanity and strategic manueverings.

My assessment of the remaining houseguests:

Will - At this point, I would have no problem if Will got the money. I don't like any of the other houseguests enough to root for them. Will is just fun to root for because he's really an underdog now, but at least he's entertaining. And I do think he's smarter than most in the house. He just got sidetracked at the beginning and may pay dearly for it.

Monica - I would die if she got the money. She just don't sit well with me. There's no grey area with her, it's either she backs away totally, or she's totally in your face.

Nicole - playing so many ends towards the middle. She won't win. You can only play the concerned friendly ear role for so long, then your true colors are revealed as you break confidences left and right.

Hardy - what a gallant knight in shiny suntan lotion, offering to sacrifice himself for others in the house. What a crock. I'm so sure he wanted to be on the show to win it for someone that's he's never met before the show. Lame. Plus, for all his muscles, he's a wuss.

Krista - I can't find the attractiveness that supposedly this girl possesses. I just see a girl who's made a lot of wrong choices in her life, and probably is one of the more devious houseguests in the house.

Bunky - the wildcard, playing dumb and dumber all by his lonesome. I think his strategy did include being "wallpaper" and fading into the background while others became lightning rods for nominations. Somehow I think he's heightened sensitivity/crying is feigned. For him to stay in, I do think he has to win HoH on Thursday.

Kent - he's a goner. But for a hypocrite, he got to speak his mind and play the game as well as he was capable of playing it. He just couldn't raise his game to match the rest of the group.
Yeah, I'm so glad he going out with grace.

Well supposedly Mike sent a banner for Will and it basically "in code" had the ratings, saying 7 MILLION VIEWERS.

That basically got the whole house depressed especially Mike and Krista. They really can't get over this fact.
Will going on how "changing clothes challange, getting a toaster as a PRIZE, playing backgammon, etc is BORING" and that nobody wants to watch that stuff.

I really wish he didn't find this out. Because it is a GREAT SHOW to watch, and the people that do watch it seem to be really into it this year because of the twists and turns it's pretty interesting vs. last year the people that watched it watched it for the sole purpose of basically trashing it!
Ratings in the summer are always LOWER anyway, and top that with what I think REALLY HURT them is they are FOLLOWING Big Brother #1 which TRUELY SUCKED. That's their major part so nobody gave BB#2 a chance from the get go I assume.
Because now Will and company are beating themselves up realizing their ratings are WORSE than BB#1 and they haven't stopped trashing BB#1 since day 1!!!!!

Goes to show you BANNERS SUCK. I wish they didn't exist for this group. This group doesn't need instigation and plots revealed. Their is enough backstabbing and plotting without them. oh well..........
Because they are even talking about getting fewer banners this year than last (but ofcourse they don't know that CBS is doing everything they can to not show them, even cutting the LIVE INTERNET feeds when they appear vs. last year making it part of the "fun" and the show).

Oh yeah, I guess there isn't going to be a live show in two weeks as well. I guess they were told because of a "football game" or something. Came at a bad time, same time found out about ratings and that fueled the fire.

Diary Room should have just said it was because the show was good and they had to EXTEND a week without HOH and Banished houseguest because of Justin?! Don't know why they went the route they did.

They should have also told them they would not be showing Banners online or on tv, wuold help explain maybe why there isn't as many because the fliers don't get as much attention as last year.

Does anyone know if 7 million is the average BB2 viewership?

I can't believe they whined so much about this.

So who's Nicole really in cahoots with? Will or Hardy? She's pretty convincing with both guys. But I think she' faking both "alliances" With Will she's always going on with "I'm so mad when people lie to my face" and it's getting old. With Hardy, she's still all massagey on him and carrying on what could be considered foreplay in the HoH room.

Bunky is just going to lay low. Kent promised to vote for Bunky if he made it to the final 2.
Their conversations are absolutely hilarious.

I think the banners also suck. What's the point in isolating them, but letting the banners to give them "inside" info. There's got to be a way to stop the banners.

Ophelia is showing the internet that Krista is not a nice "mother". Krista put the pig in her "pig" house to pee (due to the lockdown of the house while Big Brother does some outside construction in the backyard for tonight's HOH challenge. BB had to call Hardy to have him get Ophelia out of the pig house, and he did, and was rewarded with Ophelia peeing on the floor. Kent said he's kick Ophelia across the room if she bit him on the ankle again.

Kent's gone tonight! Woo Hoo. I hope they vote his ass out 2-2 so Hardy can kick him out with a tiebreaking vote

Nicole is just a snake, if I was her husband I'd be mighty upset.

Krista is just trash, I don't understand how they picked her.

Patman,

Nicole really has the KEY position for herself.
You notice with Will she is talking that she WANTS/NEEDS Krista out before Hardy!!! And she wants Will or Bunky to do the nominating for her. And you know Will has said to her that He wants Hardy out FIRST before Nicole, but he'll probably go along with what she says.
This is BECAUSE she plays both sides and can tell Hardy (which she already has hinted at) that she wants Krista gone because of her attitude. Then she still has Will and Hardy on her side for the time being. Will on the other hand if he got Hardy out first he could work it to still have Krista on his side. But looks like Nicole will prevail this situation.
It's funny watching Nicole explain to WILL why it's best for Krista and Not Hardy to go first, which in reality really doesn't make any sense since Hardy is more of a HOH competition and HE CAN'T get it this week.

To figure out which side she is "REALLY ON" I think you have to look at ALL HER CONVERSATIONS and see which ones she actually talks behind their backs enough.
SO FAR......and that's a big "so far" is she has been true to the late night discussion with WILL when he told her about Untouchables (I thought she might go back on her word once Hardy "confesed" to her about it as well without being confronted about it the next day). But so far she has done everything said from that night with Will. She is PISSED he had been in theory "playing her" (even though he really wasn't I think because of his diary entries?!) so she was going to keep the game going and play nice like nothing ever happened (which she has). she wasn't going to tell him what Will told her (which she hasn't). And she has actually come back to Will a few times and told him things Hardy has said. But not once told Hardy about Will and Nics conversation that night. And has continued on MORE THAN ONE OCCASSION with the cover story of "we were talking about Shannon all night".

Nicole is now also playing Bunky along, which would be a help.
What I think is bad she told Bunky if he gets HOH they can get Krista/Monice/or Hardy out and they would keep him for the next few weeks. But if not he would be out this week.
Basically it seemed Nicole wanted a Will/Hardy/Bunky final three almost but only if BUNKY gets this HOH, because otherwise if she got it this week it would be "too soon to blow her cover" and would have to put up Bunky.
Although she can see the tension rising between her and monica as well which seems to be developing. And Nicole already doesn't like Krista, who seem to be solid with Monica!?

About the viewership. Yes 7million does seem about right.
it's floated from 4 million - 13 million. And the shift to 9pm actually HELPED it's ratings. And BB2 actually started LOW and has stayed on par or risen in ratings. While BB1 started huge and just DROPPED. Pointing to everyone assumed BB2 would be a repeat disaster and didn't give it the chance it deserved.
Ofcourse they thought they would be "HUGE" and it is affecting them MORE than it should.
DOn't be suprised if someone "slips about the ratings" (one of the houseguests) today on the live show. They really are disappointed by this fact (Will wanted 15 - 20 million!)

Yeah, that is too funny. Didnt they learn anything from the first Big Brother? Remeber how all the first crew sat around talking about endorsement deals, acting careers and such, and what happened?...NOTHING. They fell off the face of the planet because being on tv does not equal Fame (and especially Prosperity) as much anymore. And, this crew has it even worse, all the major tv entertainment shows arent even interviewing any of the banished guests (except Justin) because no one cares. Oh, its going to be a smack in the face when Will gets into the real world and realizes he's not every womans wet dream, and Nichole will find that her personality doesnt mesh well and no one wants to see her do a cooking show.

BK, I can see how Nicole is setting up others to do her dirty work. Also, I have to wonder if a bannerthat said something like "N + W Buddies" which would just push Hardy over the edge. Bunky is the obvious fall guy (if no outside info seeps into the house) to be the "too early" HoH.

I think going for 2 weeks without getting to boot someone is going to mess with everyone's mind in the house. Can you imagine having to put up with the pretense of alliances for 2 whole weeks before getting a chance to relieve some of the pressure by giving someone the boot?

I think the two week slow down, has a very big chance of causing severe boredom...... but you never know what will happen with this group.


Also, good thing they don't have a clock!!!!
Because tonight's show will be delayed untill after the President's speech. If they had a clock you know they would be "theorizing on why they were delayed" and would come up with bizarre theories I'm sure.

actually, on tuesday night's show the ratings went up because it aired at 9. the average was about 8.2 million and it went up to 9 million for tuesday's show.

Ah Bunky, you let me down. That would be so cool to see Bunky as HOH, but I think Nicole will nominate Will and Bunky. Bunky would probably nominate Hardy and somebody else from the Untouchables. That sucks. He was so close. So long Bunky.

I wonder, did Bunky "throw" the HoH competition? I have to wonder if Monica didn't also throw it because this is NOT the week to win HoH, you have to show your cards too early.

If Nicole is smart, I think she should nominate Krista and Monica, with the intention of booting out Krista. This way, she can still have all the guys on her "team" and stay safe next week (or whenever they have the next HoH if the football game pre-empts the following week) unless either Krista or Monica get HoH, but it'll either be Hardy or Will that gets HoH next time around.

BTW, the banners weren't kidding when they said Krista will outright lie to people's faces. But then again, no one's a saint in that house. I loved it when Will confronted Krista with the Unouchables, and before you could blink, she offered to have Will and boot Hardy for their little threesome.

What's sort of cool is that, I think, most of the people left in the house at least will get along with each other. The flip side is that the only one that will possibly lose their cool is Krista and go ape if she gets pushed, or a few more banners say she's evil.