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#226
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I'm think HoH will be held on Wednesday this week (but I'm not sure, haven't read the live feeds today).
What I do remember of the goings-on since last Thursday:
The food challenge that BB set up had the houseguest looking for jars of peanut butter in the house, but each houseguest had only 4 minutes to find a jar. If the houseguest did not find a jar, that houseguest was doomed to eat PBJ sandwiches for the next week. But, BB ofered each houseguest a deal (I'm a little fuzzy on the details, so someone please correct my misunderstandings): BB offered each houseguest individually in the Diary Room $7500 if they would agree to take the money in lieu of forcing the entire house to eat PBJ all week long. Well, 2 of the 5 remaining houseguest took the bait. For a short time, there was a little bit of mystery as to who took the money.
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Monica is now talking like a normal person, not in riddles or abbreviated sentences that made no sense.
Bunky won the luxury competition (getting to see a movie on the VCR) with one other houseguest. He picked Monica.
Monica is pushing for Will to get the boot next. So is Hardy.
Nicole is pushing Hardy hard to get HoH because her butt is on the chopping block otherwise.
Will just goofing around, but knows that he has to win HoH this week to stay in the house.
Bunky seems to be the most secure person in the house. His strategy may be working...
What I do remember of the goings-on since last Thursday:
The food challenge that BB set up had the houseguest looking for jars of peanut butter in the house, but each houseguest had only 4 minutes to find a jar. If the houseguest did not find a jar, that houseguest was doomed to eat PBJ sandwiches for the next week. But, BB ofered each houseguest a deal (I'm a little fuzzy on the details, so someone please correct my misunderstandings): BB offered each houseguest individually in the Diary Room $7500 if they would agree to take the money in lieu of forcing the entire house to eat PBJ all week long. Well, 2 of the 5 remaining houseguest took the bait. For a short time, there was a little bit of mystery as to who took the money.
Spoiler:
Monica is now talking like a normal person, not in riddles or abbreviated sentences that made no sense.
Bunky won the luxury competition (getting to see a movie on the VCR) with one other houseguest. He picked Monica.
Monica is pushing for Will to get the boot next. So is Hardy.
Nicole is pushing Hardy hard to get HoH because her butt is on the chopping block otherwise.
Will just goofing around, but knows that he has to win HoH this week to stay in the house.
Bunky seems to be the most secure person in the house. His strategy may be working...
#227
Bunky won the luxury competition (getting to see a movie on the VCR) with one other houseguest. He picked Monica.
What movie? Beaches?... Boyz in the Hood?... Puppetmaster?... Silent Running?... Screwball Academy?... Ernest Saves Christmas?...
#228
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HoH is scheduled for today. It has something to do with radio-controlled toy cars, which they were practicing with yesterday. Bunky's movie was American Pie 2, but I haven't heard how they liked it... Since he loves WWF so much, I'm sure it's just his level...
#230
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I'm sure CBS had no trouble coming up with a current release movie to show them... VIP tapes are made for all new releases-- they show them at the White House, at press junkets, etc, many months before they are officially released via VHS/DVD...
The HOH competition is happening right now, as a matter-of-fact... (Lunchtime Monday...)
Edited to add: It's a two-day contest, with semi-finals today and finals tomorrow... Looks like Bunky and Hardy are the finalists... The entire group is now on day three of a PB&J food penalty...
The HOH competition is happening right now, as a matter-of-fact... (Lunchtime Monday...)
Edited to add: It's a two-day contest, with semi-finals today and finals tomorrow... Looks like Bunky and Hardy are the finalists... The entire group is now on day three of a PB&J food penalty...
Last edited by adamblast; 08-20-01 at 04:07 PM.
#231
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This sucks! With either one as HoH, I think Will is a goner, and that's too bad because Will is the most entertaining one of the bunch.
Hardy as HoH: he puts up Will and Monica/Bunky. Will is gone.
Bunky as HoH: he puts up Will and Hardy (Nicole applies the pressure and Bunky will vote Will off).
IF Bunky had balls, he'd put up Nicole and Hardy with the expressed purpose of booting off Nicole. He be able to secure Monica's vote and Bunky could break a tie if Will voted to boot Hardy (to avenge Shannon).
I can't decide which one is the worst at crying or being emotional: Bunky or Nicole. If you don't think Bunky is playing up the ****-drama-queen angle, you're not paying attention. Bunky could function in real life if he acted like he has in the house. Nicole always puts on the crocodile tears when she records her vote or tpaes a farewell message.
Hardy as HoH: he puts up Will and Monica/Bunky. Will is gone.
Bunky as HoH: he puts up Will and Hardy (Nicole applies the pressure and Bunky will vote Will off).
IF Bunky had balls, he'd put up Nicole and Hardy with the expressed purpose of booting off Nicole. He be able to secure Monica's vote and Bunky could break a tie if Will voted to boot Hardy (to avenge Shannon).
I can't decide which one is the worst at crying or being emotional: Bunky or Nicole. If you don't think Bunky is playing up the ****-drama-queen angle, you're not paying attention. Bunky could function in real life if he acted like he has in the house. Nicole always puts on the crocodile tears when she records her vote or tpaes a farewell message.
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Patman,
Yup it looks like Will "may" be in trouble.
HOWEVER, he does have a chance.
WITH BUNKY HOH:
Bunky realizes that Hardy/Nicole is a team that isn't "breaking up" so he knows they are a power of "two" and they need to be broken up. This was not just insight or hoping on my parts, these exact words were said by Bunky the other day.
Now whether he has the guts to actually do it is another story!
Can you imagine Bunky nominating Hardy and Nicole, we wouldn't hear the end of it from Nicole "After what I did for you!!!!".
With HARDY HOH:
Hardy said last night to Nicole he is thinking getting rid of Bunky first since he is a bigger "threat". Nicole said "NO", but you never know. This is after all week of saying "Will is next".
And late late last night Nicole told Will "I wanted you out next, but just changed my mind to Bunky". Now ofcourse she could be "lying" but in that context why bother. She could have just kept quite, their was not a motive to lie in that scenario, meaning no reason to butter up to Will right then. So "could" be the truth.
I really hope Bunky pulls out HOH, and puts of Nicole/HARDY.
I also thought it was FUNNY about Bunky winning the money on the "food challange loss" and HARDY being MAD at him.
Everyone else had a right to be mad at both of them, but really Hardy was pissed about eating PBand J. If Hardy wins HOH and had he not taking the "incentive for cash" and BUnky was the only one then I think Bunky would SURELY be going. But now you don't know for sure. I really just hope Will finds a way to stay.
One of the reasons:
It's funny how alot of people talk about how EASY it'd be to beat Will in the finals. But I think that's far FAR from the truth.
Mike and Shannon are a LOCK for Will if he's there.
Then Krista can be convinced it was a game and Will is "cool" by Mike.
And the kicker, there was a chat the other night with Kent and Sheryl and:
Kent said he'd vote Will over Hardy!!!!
Sheryl mentioned she was mad at Nicole!!!
Kent said that was the biggest mistake of his voting out Sheryl over Nicole and is mad at Nicole as well!
And if there is backstabbing with these last few in order to "keep Will", as in Hardy votes out Nicole to have an "easier" opponent at the Finals, Nicole could easily be PISSED and vote Will to win as well.
Right now I think Monica and Bunky are the biggest threats in the finals, they haven't pissed anyone off really personally anyway.
Yup it looks like Will "may" be in trouble.
HOWEVER, he does have a chance.
WITH BUNKY HOH:
Bunky realizes that Hardy/Nicole is a team that isn't "breaking up" so he knows they are a power of "two" and they need to be broken up. This was not just insight or hoping on my parts, these exact words were said by Bunky the other day.
Now whether he has the guts to actually do it is another story!
Can you imagine Bunky nominating Hardy and Nicole, we wouldn't hear the end of it from Nicole "After what I did for you!!!!".
With HARDY HOH:
Hardy said last night to Nicole he is thinking getting rid of Bunky first since he is a bigger "threat". Nicole said "NO", but you never know. This is after all week of saying "Will is next".
And late late last night Nicole told Will "I wanted you out next, but just changed my mind to Bunky". Now ofcourse she could be "lying" but in that context why bother. She could have just kept quite, their was not a motive to lie in that scenario, meaning no reason to butter up to Will right then. So "could" be the truth.
I really hope Bunky pulls out HOH, and puts of Nicole/HARDY.
I also thought it was FUNNY about Bunky winning the money on the "food challange loss" and HARDY being MAD at him.
Everyone else had a right to be mad at both of them, but really Hardy was pissed about eating PBand J. If Hardy wins HOH and had he not taking the "incentive for cash" and BUnky was the only one then I think Bunky would SURELY be going. But now you don't know for sure. I really just hope Will finds a way to stay.
One of the reasons:
It's funny how alot of people talk about how EASY it'd be to beat Will in the finals. But I think that's far FAR from the truth.
Mike and Shannon are a LOCK for Will if he's there.
Then Krista can be convinced it was a game and Will is "cool" by Mike.
And the kicker, there was a chat the other night with Kent and Sheryl and:
Kent said he'd vote Will over Hardy!!!!
Sheryl mentioned she was mad at Nicole!!!
Kent said that was the biggest mistake of his voting out Sheryl over Nicole and is mad at Nicole as well!
And if there is backstabbing with these last few in order to "keep Will", as in Hardy votes out Nicole to have an "easier" opponent at the Finals, Nicole could easily be PISSED and vote Will to win as well.
Right now I think Monica and Bunky are the biggest threats in the finals, they haven't pissed anyone off really personally anyway.
#233
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Yes, given the electorate, I think Will is in a good position. The question is "can he find a way to get into the finals?" I want Bunky to win HoH because he'll have a frikkin' breakdown when he does the nominations. It should make for some good TV. He would be just as exasperating when he casted his vote against Krista in the diary room.
At this point in the game, I truly don't know where Nicole's head is. Is she for Hardy or Will? I really can't tell. I can't believe Monica is going to skate by this coming week (bummer).
I find it funny that Monica is speaking like a normal person nowadays. What was it about having Krista in the house that made Monica try to appear enigmatic?
If Bunky didn't want to be HoH this week, he should have thrown the semi-finals and let Will go against Hardy, but Bunky managed to squeak by, and now Bunky is playing mindgames on Hardy with him (Bunky) saying how crappy at these macho games, and finally Hardy told Bunky to give it a rest. I found that funny. I mean, how many times can you listen to a grown man tell you how pathetic he is? I think Bunky's act is totally wearing thin.
I also thought it was funny how Will admitted to ragging on everyone in the diary room.
At this point in the game, I truly don't know where Nicole's head is. Is she for Hardy or Will? I really can't tell. I can't believe Monica is going to skate by this coming week (bummer).
I find it funny that Monica is speaking like a normal person nowadays. What was it about having Krista in the house that made Monica try to appear enigmatic?
If Bunky didn't want to be HoH this week, he should have thrown the semi-finals and let Will go against Hardy, but Bunky managed to squeak by, and now Bunky is playing mindgames on Hardy with him (Bunky) saying how crappy at these macho games, and finally Hardy told Bunky to give it a rest. I found that funny. I mean, how many times can you listen to a grown man tell you how pathetic he is? I think Bunky's act is totally wearing thin.
I also thought it was funny how Will admitted to ragging on everyone in the diary room.
#234
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This is just an example of the nuttiness that Will brings to the house:
"Hardy/Bunky/Will talking about circumcision- (a cranium card asked what percentage of US babies have it done). Discussing which religions do it and why. B/H ask Will if it's a good thing to do for health, Will answers there are more reasons to NOT do it. Discussing health reasons, sexual pleasure for male and female is greater with a foreskin. Will says there was a case of a doctor who performed surgery on an infant who was born without proper eyelids, so the surgeon used the baby's foreskin to create some. But then the doc was sued, "because the baby was C0CK-EYED", then Will erupted into laughter. The guys laugh and congratulate Will on setting that one up well."
"Hardy/Bunky/Will talking about circumcision- (a cranium card asked what percentage of US babies have it done). Discussing which religions do it and why. B/H ask Will if it's a good thing to do for health, Will answers there are more reasons to NOT do it. Discussing health reasons, sexual pleasure for male and female is greater with a foreskin. Will says there was a case of a doctor who performed surgery on an infant who was born without proper eyelids, so the surgeon used the baby's foreskin to create some. But then the doc was sued, "because the baby was C0CK-EYED", then Will erupted into laughter. The guys laugh and congratulate Will on setting that one up well."
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Will's QUOTE of the night!:
Talking to Monica after crying:
"That is the smartest thing anyone has ever said in this household so far" (after Monica said "something")
CUT TO DIARY ROOM:
Will: "I don't even know what she was talking about, I just felt like that was a good thing to say at the time?!"
Talking to Monica after crying:
"That is the smartest thing anyone has ever said in this household so far" (after Monica said "something")
CUT TO DIARY ROOM:
Will: "I don't even know what she was talking about, I just felt like that was a good thing to say at the time?!"
#239
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I think I would buy a DVD with just Will's diary room entries/conversations because they are so funny and insightful (of the other houseguests).
Last night was a pretty entertaining episode, the editing was done pretty well.
Last night was a pretty entertaining episode, the editing was done pretty well.
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Originally posted by Patman
I think I would buy a DVD with just Will's diary room entries/conversations because they are so funny and insightful (of the other houseguests).
Last night was a pretty entertaining episode, the editing was done pretty well.
I think I would buy a DVD with just Will's diary room entries/conversations because they are so funny and insightful (of the other houseguests).
Last night was a pretty entertaining episode, the editing was done pretty well.
And the HOH competition.
Now from Live Feeds Patman,
Looks like we "may have hope". Hardy seems to be pushing for Bunky out. And Nicole just "doesn't want to vote Bunky (because she saved him and has his vote locked for the finals as long as she doesn't backstab him, ofcourse she is keeping this reasoning quite). So she would want Hardy to nominate Bunky and Monica if he wants Bunky out and she'll vote Monica, and Will vote Bunky and have Hardy tiebreak it. Hardy last night said she needs to toughen up basically and play strategy not emotion.
IF she does get Monica/Bunky nominated and convices Hardy this is best way to get Bunky out and make everyone (as in Nicole only) look good then it could easily backfire because Will could change and get the wrong person out!
And Will knows Bunky would want Hardy gone and so keep him then it'd be basically all vs. Hardy in one sense!
Plenty of options. Because I think Hardy "wants" to nominate Bunky and Will but have Bunky out now! By Nicole voting Bunky and Hardy being tiebreaker.
#242
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The nominations have been made (live feed) and here they are:
I think it would be awesome if Will won HoH next week (provided that survives another week) because that would totally wreck Nicole and Hardy. I would love to see what tact Nicole and Hardy would take. I think Nicole would use the "Who loves you, baby" route, while Hardy would go for the "Prince Valiant - just boot me off so that Nicole can have the glory" reverse-psychology route. But if Will survives this upcoming eviction, I have to wonder if it'll be in Will's best interest to let Nicole get HoH, boot Monica, and then then have Will win HoH with only 3 people (him and Nicole and Hardy) and get to play god and pick which one he would take to the final 2, and then let the houseguests vote them for the big prize. If Will goes against Nicole, I think Will would win (if the other houseguest do their job and watch how fake Nicole has been in her eviction vote crying sessions). If Will goes against Hardy, I still think Will wins because Hardy hasn't made any friends and won less respect from the other houseguests with his disposition. So Will just has to win HoH 2 weeks from now to win, otherwise, Hardy will boot him and take Nicole to the final two, where I think Nicole gains a squeaker over Hardy in the final vote.
Yes, I think Monica and Bunky have absolutely no shot of making it to the final 2.
Spoiler:
I think it would be awesome if Will won HoH next week (provided that survives another week) because that would totally wreck Nicole and Hardy. I would love to see what tact Nicole and Hardy would take. I think Nicole would use the "Who loves you, baby" route, while Hardy would go for the "Prince Valiant - just boot me off so that Nicole can have the glory" reverse-psychology route. But if Will survives this upcoming eviction, I have to wonder if it'll be in Will's best interest to let Nicole get HoH, boot Monica, and then then have Will win HoH with only 3 people (him and Nicole and Hardy) and get to play god and pick which one he would take to the final 2, and then let the houseguests vote them for the big prize. If Will goes against Nicole, I think Will would win (if the other houseguest do their job and watch how fake Nicole has been in her eviction vote crying sessions). If Will goes against Hardy, I still think Will wins because Hardy hasn't made any friends and won less respect from the other houseguests with his disposition. So Will just has to win HoH 2 weeks from now to win, otherwise, Hardy will boot him and take Nicole to the final two, where I think Nicole gains a squeaker over Hardy in the final vote.
Yes, I think Monica and Bunky have absolutely no shot of making it to the final 2.
#243
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According to some of the messages I read on another board, the final HOH competition will be available to all. So even if Will wins next week, he can compete again and go for back-to-back HOHs. Will survives this time, but I think he's gone next week unless he wins HOH.
#244
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Uh-oh! Nicole and Monica had a sit-down last night, and Nicole, I think, has had enough with Will's antics, and really wants Will gone this week. Nicole was telling Monica about how Will really snowed her a couple of weeks ago when he spilled the beans on the UT, and that Nicole fell for it, and that she doubted Hardy for those few days, (but with Hardy as HOH, she's going with the power) and that Will should have been gone so many weeks ago, but somehow there's always been an easier choice that week to boot someone else.
Damn, these live feeds can been utterly addictive!
Damn, these live feeds can been utterly addictive!
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Originally posted by Patman
Uh-oh! Nicole and Monica had a sit-down last night, and Nicole, I think, has had enough with Will's antics, and really wants Will gone this week. Nicole was telling Monica about how Will really snowed her a couple of weeks ago when he spilled the beans on the UT, and that Nicole fell for it, and that she doubted Hardy for those few days, (but with Hardy as HOH, she's going with the power) and that Will should have been gone so many weeks ago, but somehow there's always been an easier choice that week to boot someone else.
Damn, these live feeds can been utterly addictive!
Uh-oh! Nicole and Monica had a sit-down last night, and Nicole, I think, has had enough with Will's antics, and really wants Will gone this week. Nicole was telling Monica about how Will really snowed her a couple of weeks ago when he spilled the beans on the UT, and that Nicole fell for it, and that she doubted Hardy for those few days, (but with Hardy as HOH, she's going with the power) and that Will should have been gone so many weeks ago, but somehow there's always been an easier choice that week to boot someone else.
Damn, these live feeds can been utterly addictive!
But I don't get why now looking in hindsight she thinks Will was "snowing" her?! He told her the TRUTH.
#246
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Nicole is bi-polar. She's up, she's down, she sweetness and light one second, and raging PMS personafied the next.
And of course Monica is using this development to her benefit, and she might just allow Nicole to convince herself to boot off Will and save Bunky.
Maybe Nicole's figured out that Will is the bigger threat, but the only way to get her point across to Hardy is to just sulk about it for a week, and use Hardy's "rescue women" mentality to finally give Will the boot on Thursday. I kind of think Will is also sandbagging the HoH competitions, and represents the bigger threat to H/N. But I really hope Will skates by next week, and puts the whammy on H/N by pulling out a HoH win.
That Nicole hasn't figured out that Hardy was playing 2 sides of the same coin really surprises me as well, but remember that Nicole is on to Will and his sociopathic ways ("entertain Hardy and you'll live here another week") as well. Thus, I guess it didn't take much for Nicole to be totally convinced that Will has "snowed" her and has used her to get this far (like no one uses anyone in the house to stay in the house - the hypocrisy is mind-numbing sometimes).
And of course Monica is using this development to her benefit, and she might just allow Nicole to convince herself to boot off Will and save Bunky.
Maybe Nicole's figured out that Will is the bigger threat, but the only way to get her point across to Hardy is to just sulk about it for a week, and use Hardy's "rescue women" mentality to finally give Will the boot on Thursday. I kind of think Will is also sandbagging the HoH competitions, and represents the bigger threat to H/N. But I really hope Will skates by next week, and puts the whammy on H/N by pulling out a HoH win.
That Nicole hasn't figured out that Hardy was playing 2 sides of the same coin really surprises me as well, but remember that Nicole is on to Will and his sociopathic ways ("entertain Hardy and you'll live here another week") as well. Thus, I guess it didn't take much for Nicole to be totally convinced that Will has "snowed" her and has used her to get this far (like no one uses anyone in the house to stay in the house - the hypocrisy is mind-numbing sometimes).
#248
They had some crappy editing on last nights show. My wife noticed that as Hardy was talking to everyone before the nomination ritual(at the table) Monica had her key around her neck. They showed it at least 3 times. Then Nicole was safe, and took out Monica's key - presto!! no key around her neck. How, in a place loaded with cameras, did they screw this up? Pretty funny.
Oh, BTW - the best line of last night's show was Will (after making a deal with Hardy) saying, "I'd stab them both in the back and let them bleed on the ground. And I wouldn't clean it up. Well I'd clean it up with a dirty dish towel and leave it on the bathroom floor."

He just kills me. I hope he skates by next week.
Oh, BTW - the best line of last night's show was Will (after making a deal with Hardy) saying, "I'd stab them both in the back and let them bleed on the ground. And I wouldn't clean it up. Well I'd clean it up with a dirty dish towel and leave it on the bathroom floor."

He just kills me. I hope he skates by next week.
#249
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There's a humorous discussion on the BB2 discussion board at the Clubhouse where they think Hardy really is the gay houseguest, while Bunky was just playing the gay guy in the house(using a school buddy, Greg, to play his husband, et al). This is because BB told all of them that one male in the BB2 house was gay, but they didn't single him out. And someone brought up the thing where Bunky says goodnight to his real love, someone named Shannon Westmoreland. If this were true, I think it'd be hilarious. The role-reversal of Hardy and Bunky for over 2 months would make BB2 an even more wacko viewing experience.
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