The complaining about Amazon thread
#1576
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
That's very strange, and an awful way of doing business. But, oh, it's Amazon, so they get an automatic free pass by 90%+ of the populace (sheep) who worship the company as being incapable of any wrongdoing. The other 10% would see this as extremely disconcerting and hopefully take their business elsewhere.
#1577
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
Whenever I try to price match something from Amazon at Best Buy, they refuse.
When I walk up to pay and tell them I want to price match Amazon, the associate looks the item up on Amazon, then tells me they can't price match it because it "isn't in their system." (And these ARE Amazon.com prices, not third party sellers I am trying to match. And these are the exact same items, same model# and UPC code.) And then I just leave the stuff on the counter and walk out of the store.
They've done this for the last couple of years. I'm guessing that this is coming from the store's management because they don't want their margins to decrease.
They even have a huge sign up that says they will price match any online or brick and mortar competitor.
When I walk up to pay and tell them I want to price match Amazon, the associate looks the item up on Amazon, then tells me they can't price match it because it "isn't in their system." (And these ARE Amazon.com prices, not third party sellers I am trying to match. And these are the exact same items, same model# and UPC code.) And then I just leave the stuff on the counter and walk out of the store.
They've done this for the last couple of years. I'm guessing that this is coming from the store's management because they don't want their margins to decrease.
They even have a huge sign up that says they will price match any online or brick and mortar competitor.

yea, that sounds like a local BB management issue, which I'm not sure how corporate handles that. Sounds like you should be getting price matches. I've never had any problems price matching at Target or Best Buy. It's pretty straightforward.
#1578
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
Looks like Amazon is trying to persuade more people to pay for their music streaming service. They recently, about a couple weeks ago, removed the ability to sample songs before purchase. And now have removed the ability to add songs or albums to wishlist or any other list.
I often will hear a song we may want and then check to see where to procure the song. Yes my wife and I are old school whereas we'd like the CD first and if only liking a song or 2 we will purchase an MP3. Often there are numerous versions or releases for a particular song. We will sample them to find which has the best mix etc. For example a song may be on a greatest hits and an original album or even have multiple releases of the same album (or rerelease, remaster etc). Well now if we cannot listen first what incentive do we have to buy.
We would put items in almost and periodically double check we still want a song or album. Often we wait till we accumulated no rich shipping credits and will use all available and still spend beyond frankly.
Now we are expected to buy blindly (sound unheard) without building a list of titles we'd want. I get there is Amazon Music to listen to some titles that are included with Prime. We won't however pay for an Unlimited streaming plan just to sample songs they have for sale. Defeats the purpose.
I often will hear a song we may want and then check to see where to procure the song. Yes my wife and I are old school whereas we'd like the CD first and if only liking a song or 2 we will purchase an MP3. Often there are numerous versions or releases for a particular song. We will sample them to find which has the best mix etc. For example a song may be on a greatest hits and an original album or even have multiple releases of the same album (or rerelease, remaster etc). Well now if we cannot listen first what incentive do we have to buy.
We would put items in almost and periodically double check we still want a song or album. Often we wait till we accumulated no rich shipping credits and will use all available and still spend beyond frankly.
Now we are expected to buy blindly (sound unheard) without building a list of titles we'd want. I get there is Amazon Music to listen to some titles that are included with Prime. We won't however pay for an Unlimited streaming plan just to sample songs they have for sale. Defeats the purpose.
Still no return of the ability to add a song to a wishlist though, which sucks. I've created a bookmark folder in my browser for "amazon music wishlist" and I bookmark the amazon listing for songs I'm interested in.
#1579
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
I've noticed that Amazon's own delivery system will occasionally "lose" small single orders during shipment, begging me to cancel the order. These are items worth no more than a few dollars. It's happened enough that I think Amazon is playing games with low-margin items they likely lose money delivering.
Several nespresso machines
65' television
Funny thing is that I was tracking the Amazon/UPS drivers online for those deliveries and they were within blocks of my house and never delivered. It took several weeks to locate the TV, which they finally returned to their warehouse and then issued me my credit (once again WTF).
#1580
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
I've noticed that Amazon's own delivery system will occasionally "lose" small single orders during shipment, begging me to cancel the order. These are items worth no more than a few dollars. It's happened enough that I think Amazon is playing games with low-margin items they likely lose money delivering.
I've had amazon orders lost which were almost $100, which I eventually got refunds on. (Mostly books).
I don't know what amazon considers "low margin" which are almost $100.
For example, would a Game Of Thrones complete series bluray set be consider a "low margin" item? (ie. It is probably not a "low cost/price" item. Dunno what the profit margin would be).
I don't know what amazon considers "low margin" which are almost $100.
For example, would a Game Of Thrones complete series bluray set be consider a "low margin" item? (ie. It is probably not a "low cost/price" item. Dunno what the profit margin would be).
Talking in absolute dollar terms, so the margin on a $5 CD may be less than a buck. The complete Game of Thrones would have enough profit in it for Amazon they wouldn't play the same games unless there are major supply issues.
This is all likely being determined by algorithms designed to maximize profit for Amazon around shipping logistics.
This is all likely being determined by algorithms designed to maximize profit for Amazon around shipping logistics.
Instead, in your mind, Amazon wakes up to the fact that Little Jimmy has some order on the way to him that is too good to believe and therefore puts some sort of exception code on it and then proceeds to "lose" Little Jimmy's order in the hopes that he will just give up on it.
Wow. It must be so interesting to be you.
#1581
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
#1582
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
They lost the 18-wheeler it was on. 
Can I complain I received my Prime Day movies a day early?

Can I complain I received my Prime Day movies a day early?
#1583
Senior Member
#1584
DVD Talk Hero
#1585
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
This has kind of pissed me off, too. However, I recently noticed that you can, once again, sample songs from the amazon site. At least some songs. But you may have to click on the 'streaming' or "MP3" option, instead of the "Audio CD" option, to be able to sample the songs. And sometimes the streaming listing for an album is on an entirely different page than the CD option. it's kind of a mess.
Still no return of the ability to add a song to a wishlist though, which sucks. I've created a bookmark folder in my browser for "amazon music wishlist" and I bookmark the amazon listing for songs I'm interested in.
Still no return of the ability to add a song to a wishlist though, which sucks. I've created a bookmark folder in my browser for "amazon music wishlist" and I bookmark the amazon listing for songs I'm interested in.
#1586
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
This has kind of pissed me off, too. However, I recently noticed that you can, once again, sample songs from the amazon site. At least some songs. But you may have to click on the 'streaming' or "MP3" option, instead of the "Audio CD" option, to be able to sample the songs. And sometimes the streaming listing for an album is on an entirely different page than the CD option. it's kind of a mess.
Still no return of the ability to add a song to a wishlist though, which sucks. I've created a bookmark folder in my browser for "amazon music wishlist" and I bookmark the amazon listing for songs I'm interested in.
Still no return of the ability to add a song to a wishlist though, which sucks. I've created a bookmark folder in my browser for "amazon music wishlist" and I bookmark the amazon listing for songs I'm interested in.
The only songs I've found to be able to hear are those that are on Amazon Prime streaming. I wish they'd return the ability to sample songs before buying and as well adding them to lists. Since they've done this change I've bought either zero or nearly zero MP3s from them.
link to MP3 sales (NOT STREAMING, although there is a button for that as well) ... music you can sample ... as an example ...
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0855F4D...rd_i=307026011
Last edited by ctyankee; 10-17-20 at 11:45 AM.
#1587
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
It doesn't seem that you are following what Cellar Door is trying to help you with.
link to MP3 sales (NOT STREAMING, although there is a button for that as well) ... music you can sample ... as an example ...
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0855F4D...rd_i=307026011
link to MP3 sales (NOT STREAMING, although there is a button for that as well) ... music you can sample ... as an example ...
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0855F4D...rd_i=307026011


There used to be links to the left where there are only track numbers now that would give a 30 second preview of the track. I had previously reached out to Amazon customer support and was told this change is intentional.
This behavior is no different on Phone or Laptop.
#1588
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
When I open that link on my Windows 10 PC, here is what I see. When I hover my mouse pointer over the track numbers, I get the play button and can press it to listen to a sample of the song.




#1589
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
I should also note I'm using the Chrome browser, in case it matters.
Another screenshot with the sample playing:
Another screenshot with the sample playing:
Last edited by Cellar Door; 10-17-20 at 08:10 PM.
#1591
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
I do have Amazon Prime, so maybe that's it. I don't subscribe to Amazon Music Unlimited.
#1592
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
30 second previews returned on the Desktop site a couple weeks ago. Apparently, they still don’t exist on the Mobile site. On Safari on my phone, I was able to request the Desktop site and the previews worked with that layout.
#1593
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
I think either this was all a mistake or a feeble attempt to push more people to their unlimited plan. I did point out to customer service that in this new configuration you can only listen to songs available via Prime or Unlimited yet not MP3s for sale that are not Prime or Unlimited.
For example https://smile.amazon.com/Dirty-Sheriff/dp/B07VZ8W4R4/
The other thing broken which I pointed out to them is the artists full back catalog of songs. That used to show which album it was from along with the 30swcond samples and could be sorted by song, album, release date, etc. Now it is in some strange order which the sorting doesn't seem to work correctly.
So complaints are limited (was zero) access to samples, artist backlog no longer useful, and inability to save albums or tracks to lists. And trust me, my purchases of MP3s has dropped to zero or near to zero since these changes.
#1594
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
I did point out to customer service that in this new configuration you can only listen to songs available via Prime or Unlimited yet not MP3s for sale that are not Prime or Unlimited.
For example https://smile.amazon.com/Dirty-Sheriff/dp/B07VZ8W4R4/
For example https://smile.amazon.com/Dirty-Sheriff/dp/B07VZ8W4R4/
#1595
#1596
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
Anyone had any problems getting re-shrinkwrapped movies from Amazon? I got 2 4K movies from Prime Day that were re-shrinkwrapped.
For Batman 4K, the case was damaged, one of the corners was chipped off, and it obviously happened before the reshrinking because the corner piece was not inside the shrinkwrap. That one is going back as soon as they have replacement stock.
For The Natural 4K, I can't figure out why it was reshrinkwrapped. The case is fine, the discs are fine, the digital code is unredeemed. It didn't have a slipcover, but that would have been outside the shrinkwrap and wouldn't have required reshrinking if someone wanted to steal it.
For Batman 4K, the case was damaged, one of the corners was chipped off, and it obviously happened before the reshrinking because the corner piece was not inside the shrinkwrap. That one is going back as soon as they have replacement stock.
For The Natural 4K, I can't figure out why it was reshrinkwrapped. The case is fine, the discs are fine, the digital code is unredeemed. It didn't have a slipcover, but that would have been outside the shrinkwrap and wouldn't have required reshrinking if someone wanted to steal it.
#1597
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
After Going All-In on Amazon, a Merchant Says He Lost Everything
Damn. That's nucking futs.
I wonder if FBA sellers are stilling bootleg CDs...
Barak Govani made a big bet on Amazon.com Inc. earlier this year that he now regrets. He shuttered his New York Speed clothing store on Los Angeles’s storied Melrose Avenue, packed up $1.5 million in inventory and shipped it to Amazon warehouses around the country, putting his fate in the hands of a company that has routinely presented itself to the world as a friend of small business.
Today, the 41-year-old retail veteran is broke and couch surfs between his mother’s home and his sister’s place. Govani hopes to start anew by getting Amazon to pay him for inventory the company destroyed after suggesting his products could be fake—an accusation Govani strenuously denies. His lawyer in September sent a demand for $800,000—along with invoices to verify his merchandise came directly from fashion brands—and they’re waiting for Amazon’s response.
Today, the 41-year-old retail veteran is broke and couch surfs between his mother’s home and his sister’s place. Govani hopes to start anew by getting Amazon to pay him for inventory the company destroyed after suggesting his products could be fake—an accusation Govani strenuously denies. His lawyer in September sent a demand for $800,000—along with invoices to verify his merchandise came directly from fashion brands—and they’re waiting for Amazon’s response.
I wonder if FBA sellers are stilling bootleg CDs...
#1598
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
After Going All-In on Amazon, a Merchant Says He Lost Everything
Damn. That's nucking futs.
I wonder if FBA sellers are stilling bootleg CDs...
Damn. That's nucking futs.
I wonder if FBA sellers are stilling bootleg CDs...
https://www.businessoffashion.com/ar...ost-everything
From the article:
The spokeswoman said Amazon repeatedly asked Govani to provide evidence that the products sold were authentic but that the invoices he sent were either illegible or didn’t match the records of the brand owners. “After being unable to resolve the matter following several appeals as part of our dispute resolution process, we informed this seller six separate times that they needed to remove their inventory from our store by specific dates or it would be destroyed,” she said. “The seller failed to request to remove their inventory by the dates provided.”
“All my life, I’d wake up at 5:30 am and work 40, 50, 60 hours each week,” Govani said. “That inventory was everything I had. Amazon ruined my life, and I did nothing wrong.”
That the author is biased against Amazon becomes clear from his Twitter feed:
However, if you choose to believe that Clothing Brands struggle with providing legitimate invoices for retailers, there's not much I can say to convince you. Btw, wrestling is fake.
#1599
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
Leave it to Amazon... destroying businessess, one by one. Their mantra, and their M.O.
They're proud and smug about this, of course.
Although that former business-owner who now lounges about on Mom's couch doesn't sound like the brightest bulb in the pack. Perhaps he may claim that he was "intellectually disabled" by Amazon, and collect at fat settlement! More power to him, in his battle against the Amazon Monster.
They're proud and smug about this, of course.
Although that former business-owner who now lounges about on Mom's couch doesn't sound like the brightest bulb in the pack. Perhaps he may claim that he was "intellectually disabled" by Amazon, and collect at fat settlement! More power to him, in his battle against the Amazon Monster.
#1600
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
For the first time ever, an Amazon delivery person threw my packages in the grass at the bottom of the driveway (it was raining, and had been all day). They have always brought them to the door before. So I arrive home to find this at the bottom of my driveway. The larger box was printer paper, so I wasn't happy about that box being soaked and covered in mud. Thankfully, the water stayed out of the box. Had it been there longer, I'm not so sure it would have been. 
What's funnier is that THIS is the photo that the Amazon delivery person took that gets posted on your order page. What company is going to want to see this from their employee?!
My guess is they just threw them out of the truck - too lazy to get out.

What's funnier is that THIS is the photo that the Amazon delivery person took that gets posted on your order page. What company is going to want to see this from their employee?!
My guess is they just threw them out of the truck - too lazy to get out.




