The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
01-19-20 | 07:35 AM
#626
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Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
To be fair, the crew did deactivate the hyperdrive on the Millenium Falcon. Vader just didn’t count on R2 being there to figure it out.
01-19-20 | 11:18 AM
#627
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Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
I’m pretty sure General Tarkin was better suited for head of HR. He ran a much tighter ship but you could see the cracks forming in Star Wars. He seemed like he could multitask his HR responsibilities along with being Governor. Vader was too one dimensional
01-19-20 | 02:25 PM
#628
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01-19-20 | 03:43 PM
#629
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01-19-20 | 03:45 PM
#630
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Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
Moff diving
02-21-20 | 05:25 PM
#631
Untitled Star Wars Film in development from J.D. Dillard/Matt Owens
As Lucasfilm maps out the next phase of Star Wars movies, executives are grappling with this question as development moves ahead: Which characters and stories justify theatrical releases and which should arrive exclusively on streaming platform Disney+?
The Hollywood Reporter learned Friday that a new Star Wars project is in the works: J.D. Dillard, best known for writing and directing the sci-fi thriller Sleight, and Matt Owens, a writer on Marvel shows Luke Cage and Agents of SHIELD, have been tapped to develop it. But insiders say it is undecided whether the project will be for the big screen or for the highly prioritized streaming platform.
Plot details, character details and setting details are unknown and are being kept in the murky underworld of Exegol. It is unclear whether Dillard would direct should the project move forward. The Dillard project is understood to be unrelated to a Star Wars film pitch by Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige and potential work from Last Jedi director Rian Johnson.
Disney and Lucasfilm appear to be shifting gears on the franchise to help boost Disney+, with Disney chairman Bob Iger saying earlier this month that Star Wars’ foreseeable future was in television, with theatrical movies going on a hiatus. The next theatrical film remains on the release calendar for Dec. 16, 2022, with other entries planned in Dec. 2024 and Dec. 2026.
While Rise of Skywalker has grossed $1.07 billion globally since its Dec. launch and will likely end its run as the sixth highest grossing film worldwide of 2019, the trendline for Star Wars films at the box office has declined during the Disney era since 2015's Force Awakens $2.07 billion haul. The 2018 spinoff film Solo, in particular, grossed $392.9 million and led Iger to concede last September in a New York Times profile that "we might've put a little bit too much in the marketplace too fast."
Meanwhile, since its Nov. 12 launch, The Mandalorian series created by Jon Favreau has been credited with helping to drive Disney+ to 28.6 million subscribers. (A second season of The Mandalorian will arrive in October.) On a Feb. 4 call with investors, Iger described the show as "a bona fide hit and a cultural phenomenon" and said the studio has "a few Star Wars series in varying stages of production and development."
Iger added that, "the priority for Star Wars in the short-term is going to be, I'll call it television for Disney+, and then we will have more to say about development of theatrical soon after that."
Disney+ Star Wars spinoffs are now being targeted even as several other shows are in the works, including one centering on Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan Kenobi and another on Rogue One character Cassian Andor (Diego Luna). And, on Friday, the first episode of the seventh season of the revived animated series Star Wars: The Clone Wars landed on the streaming platform.
Owens is currently co-writing One Piece, an ambitious live-action adaptation of the manga for Netflix. He is repped by CAA and Circle of Confusion.
Dillard made waves with 2016's Sleight, a genre thriller that was well-received when it debuted at Sundance and subsequently picked up by Focus. His last movie was Sweetheart, a horror thriller that starred Kiersey Clemons, and he recently helmed an episode of Utopia, the Gillian Flynn-created series set up at Amazon. Dillard already has some Star Wars experience as he worked in a production capacity on 2015's The Force Awakens and played a stormtrooper in Rise of Skywalker.
He is repped by CAA, Circle of Confusion, and law firm Ginsburg Daniels.
The Hollywood Reporter learned Friday that a new Star Wars project is in the works: J.D. Dillard, best known for writing and directing the sci-fi thriller Sleight, and Matt Owens, a writer on Marvel shows Luke Cage and Agents of SHIELD, have been tapped to develop it. But insiders say it is undecided whether the project will be for the big screen or for the highly prioritized streaming platform.
Plot details, character details and setting details are unknown and are being kept in the murky underworld of Exegol. It is unclear whether Dillard would direct should the project move forward. The Dillard project is understood to be unrelated to a Star Wars film pitch by Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige and potential work from Last Jedi director Rian Johnson.
Disney and Lucasfilm appear to be shifting gears on the franchise to help boost Disney+, with Disney chairman Bob Iger saying earlier this month that Star Wars’ foreseeable future was in television, with theatrical movies going on a hiatus. The next theatrical film remains on the release calendar for Dec. 16, 2022, with other entries planned in Dec. 2024 and Dec. 2026.
While Rise of Skywalker has grossed $1.07 billion globally since its Dec. launch and will likely end its run as the sixth highest grossing film worldwide of 2019, the trendline for Star Wars films at the box office has declined during the Disney era since 2015's Force Awakens $2.07 billion haul. The 2018 spinoff film Solo, in particular, grossed $392.9 million and led Iger to concede last September in a New York Times profile that "we might've put a little bit too much in the marketplace too fast."
Meanwhile, since its Nov. 12 launch, The Mandalorian series created by Jon Favreau has been credited with helping to drive Disney+ to 28.6 million subscribers. (A second season of The Mandalorian will arrive in October.) On a Feb. 4 call with investors, Iger described the show as "a bona fide hit and a cultural phenomenon" and said the studio has "a few Star Wars series in varying stages of production and development."
Iger added that, "the priority for Star Wars in the short-term is going to be, I'll call it television for Disney+, and then we will have more to say about development of theatrical soon after that."
Disney+ Star Wars spinoffs are now being targeted even as several other shows are in the works, including one centering on Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan Kenobi and another on Rogue One character Cassian Andor (Diego Luna). And, on Friday, the first episode of the seventh season of the revived animated series Star Wars: The Clone Wars landed on the streaming platform.
Owens is currently co-writing One Piece, an ambitious live-action adaptation of the manga for Netflix. He is repped by CAA and Circle of Confusion.
Dillard made waves with 2016's Sleight, a genre thriller that was well-received when it debuted at Sundance and subsequently picked up by Focus. His last movie was Sweetheart, a horror thriller that starred Kiersey Clemons, and he recently helmed an episode of Utopia, the Gillian Flynn-created series set up at Amazon. Dillard already has some Star Wars experience as he worked in a production capacity on 2015's The Force Awakens and played a stormtrooper in Rise of Skywalker.
He is repped by CAA, Circle of Confusion, and law firm Ginsburg Daniels.
02-21-20 | 06:41 PM
#632
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Untitled Star Wars Film in development from J.D. Dillard/Matt Owens
Another article I read stated the movie would take place on Exogul but not have ties to TROS.
02-21-20 | 07:12 PM
#633
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Re: Untitled Star Wars Film in development from J.D. Dillard/Matt Owens
I’m surprised Favreau isn’t attached to more Star Wars projects after the success of The Mandalorian. I’m expecting to hear he’s replacing RJ for that new trilogy any day now...
02-21-20 | 07:26 PM
#634
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Re: Untitled Star Wars Film in development from J.D. Dillard/Matt Owens
I'll believe it when I see it. I just hope, whatever it is, that they try something new for a change. Why not a submarine drama?
02-21-20 | 07:32 PM
#635
Re: Untitled Star Wars Film in development from J.D. Dillard/Matt Owens
^Especially when there’s always a bigger fish!
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02-21-20 | 07:33 PM
#636
That was my first thought too.
02-22-20 | 07:02 AM
#637
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Re: Untitled Star Wars Film in development from J.D. Dillard/Matt Owens
I'd watch a naval submarine drama on Naboo. Make it a taut 90-100 minute thriller. Lose the faux-rasta speak though. Play it straight. And stay outta the woolworths!
02-22-20 | 07:08 AM
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02-22-20 | 08:52 AM
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06-13-20 | 11:51 PM
#640
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Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
If you got an hour and 25, this is well worth your time.
A handful of the FX guys from TESB talk shop and reminisce.
A handful of the FX guys from TESB talk shop and reminisce.
06-14-20 | 10:31 PM
#641
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Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
I started reading the Republic Commando: True Colors book (2007). And it just reminds me that just because Disney removed the EU books from canon, doesn’t mean I have to respect that decision.
There are a lot of great EU books and I haven’t bothered reading any of the EU novels under the Disney banner.
I still consider Labyrinth of Evil the true prequel book to Episode 3. It reads like a movie. It’s phenomenal. So all the old books are still canon to me. Even the Thrawn trilogy.
There are a lot of great EU books and I haven’t bothered reading any of the EU novels under the Disney banner.
I still consider Labyrinth of Evil the true prequel book to Episode 3. It reads like a movie. It’s phenomenal. So all the old books are still canon to me. Even the Thrawn trilogy.
06-15-20 | 06:38 AM
#642
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Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
So it was a move made to ease continuity concerns on new works, not at all a commentary on the quality of the older works.
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06-15-20 | 03:46 PM
#643
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Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
All that removing the older Legends books from canon means is that Disney isn't beholden to them in any way when creating their new material. The books were always not "canon" in the sense that George Lucas could always ignore them when making his movies and TV shows, and he often did.
So it was a move made to ease continuity concerns on new works, not at all a commentary on the quality of the older works.
So it was a move made to ease continuity concerns on new works, not at all a commentary on the quality of the older works.
And then you're sort of left wondering whether or not characters like Darth Revan or Exar Kuhn -- and their own stories -- are still a part of the canon.
06-15-20 | 11:48 PM
#644
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Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
That’s a good point that often gets overlooked, that there is technically two EUs. The best stuff IMHO is all from the original EU that mostly existed in the 90’s pre-Episode I, from the Thrawn trilogy, Jedi Academy trilogy, and Dark Horse stuff like Tales of the Jedi and Dark Empire. But once TPM was introduced it nullified a lot of stuff while confusingly adding stuff from it to the canon (like Coruscant). I tend to see all the stuff post-prequels as EU 2.0. And to be honest I haven’t read much at all of that, because the prequels had by then killed off much of the rabid fan in me.
06-16-20 | 06:32 AM
#645
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Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
If Darth Revan or Exar Kuhn don't contradict anything in the current canon, you can keep them as part of your "head canon." However, Disney isn't beholden to those particular stories when writing new ones. Even if they eventually are explicitly contradicted by canon, that doesn't mean you can't still enjoy them as stories.
I mean, Splinter of the Mind's Eye can come off as pretty creepy with the Luke and Leia relationship given what we learn in later movies, but if one can understand the context of when it was written, it's still a good read.
06-16-20 | 08:37 AM
#646
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I was a huge fan of the EU books and I've never had trouble reconciling anything in my head about them and how they relate to the movies. They are two completely different things - I never needed Disney or Lucas to address them in any way. It would be impossible to reconcile all of those stories into one coherent saga anyway and I didn't ever need the new movies to follow the books at all.
Honestly, if they weren't going to use the Thrawn trilogy for the new movies, then it was pointless to pretend the books and movies can coexist in a logical way. They had obviously gone in different directions at that point.
Honestly, if they weren't going to use the Thrawn trilogy for the new movies, then it was pointless to pretend the books and movies can coexist in a logical way. They had obviously gone in different directions at that point.
06-16-20 | 09:14 AM
#647
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I still think Dark Empire can exist in canon. The only major thing to be changed is Han and Leia only having one kid instead of three.
The fact that it deals with Palpatine cloning himself even helps explain his return in The Rise of Skywalker.
The fact that it deals with Palpatine cloning himself even helps explain his return in The Rise of Skywalker.
06-16-20 | 02:57 PM
#648
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As to the pre-Disney canon status of the books and comics, Lucasfilm played pretty fast and loose with it. Instead of doing it like Star Trek, where novels and comics were viewed as merchandise and not canon at all, they tried to have it both ways with a canon hierarchy.
The stuff from Lucas himself (movies, novelizations, screenplays, and, I think, radio dramas) were absolute canon. Then came the tv series. And behind that, the video games, novels, and Dark Horse comic books. Then the Marvel comic books and Holiday Special, which weren't considered fully canon, but canon material could pick bits and pieces of them. Everything in those tiers was canon until something above it contradicted it.
The current Lucasfilm canon sort of dropped the whole of the old EU into the Marvel Comics (1977-1986) and Holiday Special territory with the big green rabbit and Maude.
Even if they eventually are explicitly contradicted by canon, that doesn't mean you can't still enjoy them as stories.
I mean, Splinter of the Mind's Eye can come off as pretty creepy with the Luke and Leia relationship given what we learn in later movies, but if one can understand the context of when it was written, it's still a good read.
When Disney bought Lucasfilm, I thought it was a generally good move to drop the EU canon entirely and start over with an entirely new thing, but now I'm thinking it might have been better if the Sequel Trilogy had repurposed EU stuff. Adam Driver as Jacen Solo, Daisy Ridley and Jaina Solo, someone new as Ben Skywalker, Luke is married to former Imperial agent Mara Jade, the New Republic and facing off against Grand Admiral Thrawn's resurgent Empire. Essentially, a greatest hits version of the storyline from "Heir to the Empire" up through the "Fate of the Jedi."
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06-16-20 | 03:07 PM
#649
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That’s a good point that often gets overlooked, that there is technically two EUs. The best stuff IMHO is all from the original EU that mostly existed in the 90’s pre-Episode I, from the Thrawn trilogy, Jedi Academy trilogy, and Dark Horse stuff like Tales of the Jedi and Dark Empire. But once TPM was introduced it nullified a lot of stuff while confusingly adding stuff from it to the canon (like Coruscant). I tend to see all the stuff post-prequels as EU 2.0. And to be honest I haven’t read much at all of that, because the prequels had by then killed off much of the rabid fan in me.
And even when they really tried to sidestep the prequel problem with Tales of the Jedi, they still managed to introduce things that violated the lore later established in the Prequels by having a husband-wife Jedi team. Granted, that was thousands of years before the "saga" era and a lot can change in that time, but the creators really were flying blind.
06-16-20 | 04:12 PM
#650
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Yeah, I've never dug too deeply into the stuff set thousands of years before the movies, but given that amount of time I wouldn't have any issue with most of being able to stay in canon.
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