The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
#501
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
I actually think, TomOpus , you might consider redoing your OP and using it as an opportunity to curate current projects like TGM listed. Threads often get their direction from the OP. And if the OP is going to kick things off talking about whining, well..
Not trying to tell the mods how to do their job, but you want us to stay on topic of a thread, but lock us out of one designated for discussion of something that remains controversial. I agree a lot of it goes in circles, but it’s likely going to keep spilling into other threads.
#502
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
I actually think, TomOpus , you might consider redoing your OP and using it as an opportunity to curate current projects like TGM listed. Threads often get their direction from the OP. And if the OP is going to kick things off talking about whining, well..
#503
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
We actually had a thread that was for Future Star Wars films but I think it also wound up locked. Honestly that’s part of the problem too if you ask me. Like it or not The Last Jedi is still a hot button topic, and I don’t think locking the reviews thread was the right move.
Not trying to tell the mods how to do their job, but you want us to stay on topic of a thread, but lock us out of one designated for discussion of something that remains controversial. I agree a lot of it goes in circles, but it’s likely going to keep spilling into other threads.
#504
DVD Talk Hero
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#506
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
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Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
The Secret History of Star Wars
In an effort to save this thread
That article is one of the most interesting perspectives on SW and ESB I’ve read in years.
It articulates some things that I’ve felt all my life but was never really able to put into words. The massive differences between SW and ESB. The original film didn’t take itself seriously whereas the sequel takes itself very seriously. Virtually every prequel, sequel, side deal since has really been a sequel to ESB, following its tone and approach.
In an effort to save this thread

That article is one of the most interesting perspectives on SW and ESB I’ve read in years.
It articulates some things that I’ve felt all my life but was never really able to put into words. The massive differences between SW and ESB. The original film didn’t take itself seriously whereas the sequel takes itself very seriously. Virtually every prequel, sequel, side deal since has really been a sequel to ESB, following its tone and approach.
Last edited by Mabuse; 10-28-19 at 03:52 PM.
#508
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
The hype is starting to come back, but man The Last Jedi killed my love for Star Wars. I have not been a fan of what Disney has done with the franchise. Rogue One and Solo were decent enough, but fuck the sequel trilogy so far.
I really hope The Mandalorian is good.
I really hope The Mandalorian is good.
#509
DVD Talk Special Edition
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
The Secret History of Star Wars
In an effort to save this thread
That article is one of the most interesting perspectives on SW and ESB I’ve read in years.
It articulates some things that I’ve felt all my life but was never really able to put into words. The massive differences between SW and ESB. The original film didn’t take itself seriously whereas the sequel takes itself very seriously. Virtually every prequel, sequel, side deal since has really been a sequel to ESB, following its tone and approach.
In an effort to save this thread

That article is one of the most interesting perspectives on SW and ESB I’ve read in years.
It articulates some things that I’ve felt all my life but was never really able to put into words. The massive differences between SW and ESB. The original film didn’t take itself seriously whereas the sequel takes itself very seriously. Virtually every prequel, sequel, side deal since has really been a sequel to ESB, following its tone and approach.
#510
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
Screw those damn Terminator sequels!!!!
#511
Member
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
Easily. I haven’t heard a convincing argument as to how any of the Prequel Trilogy films are better. It has more going on and character interaction stuff than ROTJ, though I still love that one. So yeah, not a crazy notion.
Last edited by Brack; 10-28-19 at 10:01 PM.
#512
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
I respectfully disagree as ROTJ is better than TLJ (IMO), as that was the last truly great SW movie. I know you'll respond with the Ewoks and Death Star 2, but that doesn't make it a bad movie (just inferior to ANH & ESB). ROTJ has the Throne Room Scenes which are arguably the best scenes of any SW movie (nothing in the PT or ST can even rival them). ROTJ has a great space battle and you have to think of it in the context of 1983. Jabba Palace is cool, the death of Yoda, the Sail Barge Scene, and the Bike chase on Endor. Again, not saying it's a perfect movie as ROTJ has it's flaws, but I think it's a damn good sequel. ROTJ has to literally sit next to 2 classics of it's genre, so it is easy to pick apart.
Now if you want to say that TLJ is the best SW movie since ROTJ, then you may win me over.
Edit: Now if you're talking about ROTJ SE, then I can't defend those changes. Jedi Rocks is terrible, Darth Vader NOOOOO is uneccessary, and Hayden Force Ghost looks creepy.
Now if you want to say that TLJ is the best SW movie since ROTJ, then you may win me over.

Edit: Now if you're talking about ROTJ SE, then I can't defend those changes. Jedi Rocks is terrible, Darth Vader NOOOOO is uneccessary, and Hayden Force Ghost looks creepy.
#513
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
Can someone post chapter stops for TLJ BD where character development is shown so I don't have to subject myself to the entire movie again? Thanks.
#515
DVD Talk Hero
#516
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#518
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
I respectfully disagree as ROTJ is better than TLJ (IMO), as that was the last truly great SW movie. I know you'll respond with the Ewoks and Death Star 2, but that doesn't make it a bad movie (just inferior to ANH & ESB). ROTJ has the Throne Room Scenes which are arguably the best scenes of any SW movie (nothing in the PT or ST can even rival them). ROTJ has a great space battle and you have to think of it in the context of 1983. Jabba Palace is cool, the death of Yoda, the Sail Barge Scene, and the Bike chase on Endor. Again, not saying it's a perfect movie as ROTJ has it's flaws, but I think it's a damn good sequel. ROTJ has to literally sit next to 2 classics of it's genre, so it is easy to pick apart.
Jabba was a nice reveal.
Slave girl Leia is iconic.
But the acting quality took a severe drop in the third installment. It was very simplistic with Luke's going on and on about "the good," "the good side" and the Emperor just being bwhahahaa, I'm evil, do the wrong thing so you can become just like your father bwahahaha.
And Luke and Leia being brother and sister!? That ruined the whole love triangle.
TLJ has some cringe moments, but the acting by everyone is pretty solid. The story and message is done better in TLJ. DJ even gives a member of the resistance food for thought about morality. And cute animals are restricted to just being cute animals and not plushy warriors that can take down the galaxy's strongest military. And I actually like the casino scene because it world builds.
#519
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
The Secret History of Star Wars
Interestingly, the author says the book came about as a result of discussions on online messaging boards.
#520
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
I was one of the people he discussed with before writing the book as we were both members of www.originaltrilogy.com. Michael is a good guy and he did a lot of research but the book is slanted against Lucas as everyone he consulted at the time (mid 00’s) was a PT hater. My point is that the facts are correct but many of his observations are from an Anti-Lucas/Anti-PT point of view. You have to remember the context of that time as there was a section of the fanbase that hated Lucas just like they hate Disney now.
#521
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
I was one of the people he discussed with before writing the book as we were both members of www.originaltrilogy.com. Michael is a good guy and he did a lot of research but the book is slanted against Lucas as everyone he consulted at the time (mid 00’s) was a PT hater. My point is that the facts are correct but many of his observations are from an Anti-Lucas/Anti-PT point of view. You have to remember the context of that time as there was a section of the fanbase that hated Lucas just like they hate Disney now.
#522
DVD Talk Legend
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OK so the GoT guys trilogy is dead....
#523
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
I thought they just quit, that doesn't mean the movies are dead.
If Lucasfilm continues to mine the Skywalker time period, they need to do a Thrawn-centric movie or limited series.
If Lucasfilm continues to mine the Skywalker time period, they need to do a Thrawn-centric movie or limited series.
#524
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
If they had B&W developing something like a KOTOR trilogy, then it might still be on the table. If they just handed them a trilogy to do anything they wanted to, then whatever they were working is most likely not going to happen.
#525
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
I feel like their trilogy is dead. They were the writers, so if they're not working on it, it's not their trilogy anymore. If someone else takes their premise and runs with it, whatever was written so far is going to be rewritten to fit the new person's vision. Also, if Lucasfilm had been happy with the direction they were going at all, they would've at least put it on indefinite hiatus. The fact that it's dead means that whatever they were working didn't fit Lucasfilm's view of what the next trilogy should be.




I feel stupid, but I literally could have sworn at one point the reviews thread was locked as well. Guess I’m wrong.
