The General Star Wars Discussion Thread
03-16-22 | 07:00 AM
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Also, Lindelof isn't a director, but a writer.
Finally, can you name a director that doesn't fit into one of your categories of "name", "hot", or "up-and-coming"? Should they be hiring complete unknowns with no track record?
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03-16-22 | 09:42 AM
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What do you mean "still"? When did they ever do that? All the accounts I've read have suggested they've hired writers and directors for projects based on specific story pitches, not hiring them without a project for them to work on. Not all the projects have panned out. but that's the difference between a pitch and a delivered script.
Also, Lindelof isn't a director, but a writer.
Finally, can you name a director that doesn't fit into one of your categories of "name", "hot", or "up-and-coming"? Should they be hiring complete unknowns with no track record?
Also, Lindelof isn't a director, but a writer.
Finally, can you name a director that doesn't fit into one of your categories of "name", "hot", or "up-and-coming"? Should they be hiring complete unknowns with no track record?
I saw a comment elsewhere recently that had the idea of letting young, new directors use the pre-existing sets and such to make "fan films" of a sort, to let them get some work under their belt without a huge cash investment.
03-16-22 | 09:50 AM
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03-16-22 | 10:11 AM
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What's the over/under for when Zak Penn and/or Akiva Goldsman are brought in to develop projects as well? Since that's the caliber of talent they're pursuing... mediocre journeymen who will crank out product and toe the company line.
Fuck I'm in a shitty mood today.
Fuck I'm in a shitty mood today.
03-16-22 | 11:03 AM
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David S. Goyer or GTFO
03-16-22 | 11:05 AM
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03-16-22 | 11:23 AM
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A talented, unknown director is likely going to create a film even more divisive than The Last Jedi. Which, hey I'm all on board for. But handing even several million to a newbie could spiral quality out of control, since they wouldn't have a handle on that kind of budget.
Actually, here's my pitch: Start hiring established foreign directors. They can bring some fresh ideas and perspective, while also bolstering international appeal of the films. Especially Taiwanese/Chinese filmmakers, where Star Wars hasn't taken off so much. Plus, they're more likely to be familiar with a lot of the building blocks of the concepts in the franchise, such as Taoism (which is a minor religion, but has quite a bit of syncretism with the traditional folk practices).
Actually, here's my pitch: Start hiring established foreign directors. They can bring some fresh ideas and perspective, while also bolstering international appeal of the films. Especially Taiwanese/Chinese filmmakers, where Star Wars hasn't taken off so much. Plus, they're more likely to be familiar with a lot of the building blocks of the concepts in the franchise, such as Taoism (which is a minor religion, but has quite a bit of syncretism with the traditional folk practices).
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03-17-22 | 08:27 AM
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Uwe Boll anyone?
03-17-22 | 08:30 AM
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Speaking of which, aren't you glad Tatooine is a good name for a planet? It's fun to say, it works. Would you really want to spend 45+ years saying "Mustafar" that much?! Yeah, me neither.
03-17-22 | 09:30 AM
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03-17-22 | 09:47 AM
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I haven’t watched any of the shows Lindelof has been involved in other than an episode or two of The Leftovers early on, but I bailed.
The movies he’s been involved with are a mixed bag. I liked Prometheus even though I know it’s a film people seem to either love or hate. I also kind of liked Tomorrowland.
The movies he’s been involved with are a mixed bag. I liked Prometheus even though I know it’s a film people seem to either love or hate. I also kind of liked Tomorrowland.
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03-17-22 | 09:54 AM
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I like it, though we have plenty of complainers already that the Star Wars properties should be called The Tatooine Chronicles.
Speaking of which, aren't you glad Tatooine is a good name for a planet? It's fun to say, it works. Would you really want to spend 45+ years saying "Mustafar" that much?! Yeah, me neither.
Speaking of which, aren't you glad Tatooine is a good name for a planet? It's fun to say, it works. Would you really want to spend 45+ years saying "Mustafar" that much?! Yeah, me neither.
They have an outdoor practical set near the office. I've seen into it a little on my train ride. I actually think that' s why they keep using Tatooine in the new shows, because A. that real estate in El Segundo is expensive and B. they have the basic architecture there already. Still tons of blue screens around it though.
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03-18-22 | 11:59 AM
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They're also using those giant LED panels to create backgrounds in-camera that help the lighting be more natural. I'm glad to see them learning new techniques like this to find a way to reduce costs while still creating an immersive story.
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03-18-22 | 12:16 PM
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They made that Star Wars: Visions show to experiment with a variety of anime styles. Maybe they could do something similar for a live action series of short.
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05-14-22 | 07:36 PM
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Today is George Lucas' birthday. He actually tried to have his birth certificate altered to change the date but the state wouldn't let him.
05-17-22 | 10:22 AM
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There was a big Vanity Fair piece about Star Wars TV, but this is the bit they talk about the films:
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...l-be-televised
That leaves the question of what’s happening with the Star Wars movies.
“We have a road map,” Kennedy says, although Lucasfilm’s big-screen return is unlikely to follow the same relentless cadence as before. A movie from Jojo Rabbit’s Taika Waititi and 1917 screenwriter Krysty Wilson-Cairns will likely arrive first, with Rogue Squadron from Wonder Woman director Patty Jenkins further off. Is it true that Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige will produce a Star Wars film? “I would love to see what movie he might come up with,” Kennedy says. “But right now, no, there isn’t anything specifically.” And the trilogy from The Last Jedi’s Rian Johnson that was announced five years ago? Back-burnered. “Rian has been unbelievably busy with Knives Out and the deal that he made at Netflix for multiple movies.”
The emphasis on television is already influencing the upcoming film slate. “I hesitate to use the word trilogies anymore because Star Wars is much more about persistent storytelling,” Kennedy says. Now she just needs to recruit feature filmmakers.
“We have a road map,” Kennedy says, although Lucasfilm’s big-screen return is unlikely to follow the same relentless cadence as before. A movie from Jojo Rabbit’s Taika Waititi and 1917 screenwriter Krysty Wilson-Cairns will likely arrive first, with Rogue Squadron from Wonder Woman director Patty Jenkins further off. Is it true that Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige will produce a Star Wars film? “I would love to see what movie he might come up with,” Kennedy says. “But right now, no, there isn’t anything specifically.” And the trilogy from The Last Jedi’s Rian Johnson that was announced five years ago? Back-burnered. “Rian has been unbelievably busy with Knives Out and the deal that he made at Netflix for multiple movies.”
The emphasis on television is already influencing the upcoming film slate. “I hesitate to use the word trilogies anymore because Star Wars is much more about persistent storytelling,” Kennedy says. Now she just needs to recruit feature filmmakers.
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05-17-22 | 11:00 AM
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At this point I would rather they just stick to mostly Disney+ shows unless there’s something really worthy of a film. Truthfully I kind of feel like Obi-Wan could have been worthy of being a film, but I’m glad we’re getting a more long form series of episodes.
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05-17-22 | 11:46 AM
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I've always preferred a TV series over films (for all franchises, not just Star Wars).
A better story can be told in 6-12 hours, rather than 2 hours.
And you get new material every year, not every 2 to 3 years.
A better story can be told in 6-12 hours, rather than 2 hours.
And you get new material every year, not every 2 to 3 years.
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05-17-22 | 12:38 PM
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Rian Johnson's Netflix deal works out for everyone. He got a shitload of money and we don't have to worry about him shitting on Star Wars anymore. Win, Win.
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05-17-22 | 12:45 PM
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“We have a road map,” Kennedy says, although Lucasfilm’s big-screen return is unlikely to follow the same relentless cadence as before.
05-17-22 | 01:48 PM
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There's apparently another part where KK blames the failure of Solo on the fact that they recast the part which is baloney as Alden was fun and charming despite being in a cobbled together story that had two different productions and was released while the community was still reeling from the shock of TLJ. If they had let Lord & Miller finish it and released it the following December, I think it would have done much better.
I don't hate the CGI Luke stuff being used in a few episodes of Mandalorian, but for full on projects like new Han Solo stories, or young Luke and Leia stories, then you have to recast.
Star Trek has three Spocks and doing pretty well with them.
I don't hate the CGI Luke stuff being used in a few episodes of Mandalorian, but for full on projects like new Han Solo stories, or young Luke and Leia stories, then you have to recast.
Star Trek has three Spocks and doing pretty well with them.
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05-17-22 | 01:59 PM
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I personally had no interest in the Solo film almost entirely because I didn't care for the actors.(yes that includes Glover) And after seeing the film I thought they were both terrible.
I don't anticipate Star Wars films going forward as I have no confidence in the current team at Lucasfilm.
And I'll save the TV criticism for that thread, but even that I anticipate will be run into the ground.
I don't anticipate Star Wars films going forward as I have no confidence in the current team at Lucasfilm.
And I'll save the TV criticism for that thread, but even that I anticipate will be run into the ground.
05-17-22 | 02:54 PM
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I had faith in TV shows being the real future of Star Wars... until the laughable mess of Book of Boba Fett. I can't wrap my head around how Favreau and Filoni managed to start promisingly and botch it so badly by the end.
But OK; two really good seasons of a show and one misfire. Not the end of the world, and still mostly good. Let's see how Kenobi shakes out.
But OK; two really good seasons of a show and one misfire. Not the end of the world, and still mostly good. Let's see how Kenobi shakes out.
05-17-22 | 03:36 PM
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I had faith in TV shows being the real future of Star Wars... until the laughable mess of Book of Boba Fett. I can't wrap my head around how Favreau and Filoni managed to start promisingly and botch it so badly by the end.
But OK; two really good seasons of a show and one misfire. Not the end of the world, and still mostly good. Let's see how Kenobi shakes out.
But OK; two really good seasons of a show and one misfire. Not the end of the world, and still mostly good. Let's see how Kenobi shakes out.
05-17-22 | 04:54 PM
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The Variety piece certainly makes it sound like we're not getting a new Star Wars movie any time soon. Certainly not in 2023 and probably not in 2024, either.