Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
08-11-18, 10:19 AM
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re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
Also, Hardwick could be kind of an asshole. If he were more of a kind, likable person towards everyone he worked with (like, say, James Gunn), he wouldn't be getting this much push-back.
08-11-18, 12:09 PM
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08-11-18, 02:51 PM
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re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
I think making the punishment harsher both legally and professionally will defer at least some would-be harassers, don’t you?
I mean we already have men saying “you can take even TALK to women anymore” and you just know those men actually mean that they can’t say shitty and harassing things to women anymore.
I mean we already have men saying “you can take even TALK to women anymore” and you just know those men actually mean that they can’t say shitty and harassing things to women anymore.
08-11-18, 04:43 PM
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re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
Hey dudes. Just a reminder: I 100% stand by every single word of my essay. I made sure it was unembellished, factual, and that I had evidence to back it up in order to protect myself in case of ACTUAL litigation (not a network investigation, where I’m not protected). That is all.— Chloe Dykstra (@skydart)
Regarding the evidence she claimed to have, it's possible that she mentioned that as a deterrent to being sued for defamation. I.e. she wanted to air this, and also make it known that she has evidence of it to avoid being sued. Did she state the purpose of the evidence, other than to say she had it?
I haven't read enough, nor do I know enough, about either of them to hazard a guess. Just speculating that it's possible she has the evidence but is now being truthful that she's had her say and is done with it.
I haven't read enough, nor do I know enough, about either of them to hazard a guess. Just speculating that it's possible she has the evidence but is now being truthful that she's had her say and is done with it.
08-12-18, 10:22 PM
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re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
He definitely was emotional opening the show. Seemed totally genuine also. It’s great to have him back.
08-13-18, 12:39 AM
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08-13-18, 10:05 AM
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re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
So all those staffers on Talking Dead quit because the AMC investigation didn't actually include interviewing Dykstra? Was it said anywhere if they tried to or if she declined?
Edit: nevermind, I remember she tweeted she declined.
Edit: nevermind, I remember she tweeted she declined.
08-13-18, 02:24 PM
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re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
Reading through some of the twitter comments, there's a lot of people quick to still bash Hardwick and voice their displeasure for the Nerdist (and anyone else still doing business with him).
Given all the conversation earlier about how the "system" or whatever works with Hardwick returning to work, this is kind of an example of how public perception can still be damaged because a lot of people in these situations hear the initial reports and tend to believe the accusers but hear very little of the followup defenses, additional supporters, or believe the apologies.
Given all the conversation earlier about how the "system" or whatever works with Hardwick returning to work, this is kind of an example of how public perception can still be damaged because a lot of people in these situations hear the initial reports and tend to believe the accusers but hear very little of the followup defenses, additional supporters, or believe the apologies.
What people personally think here or in real life can't be controlled. Only time will heal that part of this mess for some flks as they move on to the next scandal if nothing else comes out about Hardwick. Yes... I know it sucks. I know it unfair. I acknowledged all that. I do realize it's a very heaving swing of the pendulum away from traditionally NOT believing Women when they accuse powerful people of abuse.
08-13-18, 02:34 PM
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08-13-18, 04:30 PM
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re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
Who remembers The Birth of a Nation thread? Pretty interesting to go back and read. Troy Stiffler was on to it al! https://forum.dvdtalk.com/12916381-post47.html
08-13-18, 05:11 PM
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re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
Who remembers The Birth of a Nation thread? Pretty interesting to go back and read. Troy Stiffler was on to it al! https://forum.dvdtalk.com/12916381-post47.html
but dex14, you raise a good question... I wonder how many people actually went out and saw or rented the BOAN flick a couple years back. It sounds to me like most people skipped it. I was curious about it, but never ended up seeing it myself.
08-13-18, 06:02 PM
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08-13-18, 06:07 PM
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Disagree! There's nothing "good" about Chris Hardwick's "art."
but dex14, you raise a good question... I wonder how many people actually went out and saw or rented the BOAN flick a couple years back. It sounds to me like most people skipped it. I was curious about it, but never ended up seeing it myself.
but dex14, you raise a good question... I wonder how many people actually went out and saw or rented the BOAN flick a couple years back. It sounds to me like most people skipped it. I was curious about it, but never ended up seeing it myself.
08-13-18, 06:08 PM
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re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
And it's those future jobs that are the most important as you get older - that's when you need the income the most.
08-13-18, 06:20 PM
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If all you care about is whether he retained a job or not, then happy trails to you and however you're defining this "system" of yours. But according to reports, other people have quit the show because they brought him back, and i'm sure any dip in ratings or future employment elsewhere will be on shaky ground because there will always be a concern of "hey, should we hire or continue to employ this guy given his past?" associated with him. It's not so simple as everything being fine again since they brought him back.
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08-13-18, 07:54 PM
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I TOTALLY get what you're saying, I really do. But Again, if there is NOTHING then he will be fine. If her "proof" is bullshit people will forgive and forget.
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08-13-18, 08:03 PM
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If all you care about is whether he retained a job or not, then happy trails to you and however you're defining this "system" of yours. But according to reports, other people have quit the show because they brought him back, and i'm sure any dip in ratings or future employment elsewhere will be on shaky ground because there will always be a concern of "hey, should we hire or continue to employ this guy given his past?" associated with him. It's not so simple as everything being fine again since they brought him back.
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08-13-18, 08:08 PM
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True. But do you think that women being harassed and abused by powerful men with threats or job loss both implied and real has stopped even in this MeToo environment?
The other side of the coin you tossed on the table is that many No NAME or POOR women will never get their day in court or even the Court of Public Opinion like many Big Name women have....