Ghostbusters (2016, D: Feig)
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Re: Ghostbusters (2016, D: Feig)
http://io9.gizmodo.com/ghostbusters-...ium=socialflow
So the plan for a sequel and franchise expansion is still in the works.
In related news, I hear there's at least two more Star Wars movies coming out in the next couple of years, despite the poor reviews from this thread...
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...-spoilers.html
So the plan for a sequel and franchise expansion is still in the works.
In related news, I hear there's at least two more Star Wars movies coming out in the next couple of years, despite the poor reviews from this thread...
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...-spoilers.html
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Re: Ghostbusters (2016, D: Feig)
Amy Pascal eventually forced Ivan Reitman to give up on the idea of being heavily involved in the movie which then lead to Paul Feig being brought on to direct what at the time was ONLY a concept for an all female Ghostbusters movie. They even went so far as to have full conversations and a dinner party for everyone involved in the flick to discuss... that is everyone BUT Ivan Reitman. Reitman's producers credit is essentially a vanity card.
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Originally Posted by Ivan Reitman
“I mean, the script that we were working on was this kind of traditional sequel, a passing of the torch. But it had some really unusual ideas in it. I did kill Bill off in the first five minutes of the movie and then he becomes a ghost. He was a very funny character and very, very present in the movie, and the leader of this new young group was Oscar, his son from Ghostbusters II. All grown up and now working with a bunch of other kids at Columbia University. It was a mixed gender group, just coincidentally it involved several women, so when people talk about, you know, all that stuff, we were planning that already. It was a shame. It was a very funny script. Harold Ramis worked on it, Aykroyd worked on it, Etan Coen worked on it and, you know, Eisenberg and Stupnitsky are very funny writers from The Office. The studio greenlit it. It was there to make. But Harold got sick, you know? Right in the middle of all that, Harold got really sick, and we kept putting off the start date and I could never get Bill on the phone about sort of really committing to it.”
Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/motion-capture...0YWeEzOhDtJ.99
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Eisenberg and Stupnitsky wrote Bad Teacher, Etan Coen did Tropic Thunder and Get Hard. And it really sucks that Ramis's last movie was Year One.
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Re: Ghostbusters (2016, D: Feig)
Originally Posted by Ivan Reitman
the leader of this new young group was Oscar, his son from Ghostbusters II.
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This entire thing is ugly on both sides of the debate.
“Hey @richardroeper. You’ve got horrible taste. U physically look like that group of sad old men who r mad @Ghosbusters great reviews!”
“@richardroeper You were unfairly harsh towards @Ghostbusters. Do you even care about equality? Clearly you don’t. Write another review.”
“@richardroeper your @Ghostbusters review was in poor taste, mean spirited and worthy of a lowly film blog. U can dislike a film, but come on.”
“Do us all a favor and die. You don’t know the first thing about how to review a film.”
“@richardroeper You were unfairly harsh towards @Ghostbusters. Do you even care about equality? Clearly you don’t. Write another review.”
“@richardroeper your @Ghostbusters review was in poor taste, mean spirited and worthy of a lowly film blog. U can dislike a film, but come on.”
“Do us all a favor and die. You don’t know the first thing about how to review a film.”
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Re: Ghostbusters (2016, D: Feig)
I don't need to watch her review, I saw the actual movie!
I'm not upset with the film because there's a difference between subverting gender stereotypes and tearing men down. I realize that's tough for some people to understand, since having an incompetent male character isn't the same as saying all males are incompetent.
Also, a big point of Ghostbusters is that no one believes the Ghostbusters until it's too late. That's a theme in all three movies, including inexplicably in the second film where apparently everyone but the Ghostbusters forgot the events of the first movie (something the new movie riffs on). In this movie, most of the authority figures happen to be men, although there is one female who is just as clueless as some of the men.
And let's be clear, there's only one dumb male character in the film: Kevin, who is clearly a gender subversion of the stereotype of the dumb hot secretary. All the other men are not incompetent, they are incredulous of the Ghostbusters the same as all the male authority figures in the other movies.
And the reason I'm defending this movie is because I think the men's rights movement is odious and noxious. The most privileged group in society complaining about how some movie is unfair to them is embarrassing to me as a man. It's like seeing Chritians cry persecution while they're putting the Ten Commandments on courthouses and having Massive Christmas trees and crosses erected on public property. It's tone deaf and tiring. It's funny that the same people complaining about this movie tend to be the same people who tell other groups to suck it up when they complain about discrimination. And by funny I mean sad and pathetic.
On top of all of that, this new movie is a lot of fun and very enjoyable. I felt as engaged with these Ghostbusters as I did in the original. I was rooting for them just like I did with the first group. So I'm defending it because a lot of the attacks leveled against a it are from people who haven't even seen it, people unwilling to even give it a chance because they've decided that it's more important to mount a knee jerk defense of their fragile manhood than actually man up and see the movie and form their own opinion.
I'm not upset with the film because there's a difference between subverting gender stereotypes and tearing men down. I realize that's tough for some people to understand, since having an incompetent male character isn't the same as saying all males are incompetent.
Also, a big point of Ghostbusters is that no one believes the Ghostbusters until it's too late. That's a theme in all three movies, including inexplicably in the second film where apparently everyone but the Ghostbusters forgot the events of the first movie (something the new movie riffs on). In this movie, most of the authority figures happen to be men, although there is one female who is just as clueless as some of the men.
And let's be clear, there's only one dumb male character in the film: Kevin, who is clearly a gender subversion of the stereotype of the dumb hot secretary. All the other men are not incompetent, they are incredulous of the Ghostbusters the same as all the male authority figures in the other movies.
And the reason I'm defending this movie is because I think the men's rights movement is odious and noxious. The most privileged group in society complaining about how some movie is unfair to them is embarrassing to me as a man. It's like seeing Chritians cry persecution while they're putting the Ten Commandments on courthouses and having Massive Christmas trees and crosses erected on public property. It's tone deaf and tiring. It's funny that the same people complaining about this movie tend to be the same people who tell other groups to suck it up when they complain about discrimination. And by funny I mean sad and pathetic.
On top of all of that, this new movie is a lot of fun and very enjoyable. I felt as engaged with these Ghostbusters as I did in the original. I was rooting for them just like I did with the first group. So I'm defending it because a lot of the attacks leveled against a it are from people who haven't even seen it, people unwilling to even give it a chance because they've decided that it's more important to mount a knee jerk defense of their fragile manhood than actually man up and see the movie and form their own opinion.
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But, I'll explain: A lot of people (not gender-specific) are rating the movie without actually seeing the movie. Just to be jerks. Not something YOU would do, right?
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When did I say anything about the female cast? Stop watching so many Adam Sandler movies and learn to read.
But, I'll explain: A lot of people (not gender-specific) are rating the movie without actually seeing the movie. Just to be jerks. Not something YOU would do, right?
But, I'll explain: A lot of people (not gender-specific) are rating the movie without actually seeing the movie. Just to be jerks. Not something YOU would do, right?
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It's not rocket science.
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Who needs 45 minutes to say how much they didn't like something? Are those three guys my mother?!
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Twitter made Leslie Jones cry today.
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Yes, that's a perfect summary of what happened.
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Don't even bother. All you'll get is:
"She's famous, she should be used to it."
"She asked for it."
"She should have taken the high ground and not responded."
Fuck all that shit.
And there it is.
"She's famous, she should be used to it."
"She asked for it."
"She should have taken the high ground and not responded."
Fuck all that shit.
And there it is.