Ghostbusters (2016, D: Feig)
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Also there's this (I'll spoiler it because there are some spoilers in it):
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that looks like the maid from Family Guy.
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I never got that impression from anyone criticizing him. Is it convenient that he's yet another straight white dude (like me!) who is hesitant to believe the movie is any good? Sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that his argument was poor. As someone mentioned above, if he had made his point and ended it, that'd have been enough. But instead he spent 6 minutes acting like he was owed a "better" movie or something.
Yeah, I'm not going to seriously consider the opinion of a dude who reviews Cheetos and has a "How to make Cheez-it Vodka (Vomit Alert!)" video. He seems exactly like the type of "what about the men!!" idiot that would go into the movie knowing he'd hate it, and finding every possible reason to confirm his own opinion.
Wow, dude. At least we know where you stand. I mean, you got all that from the opinion of a dude who reviews skittles on YouTube?
Yeah, I'm not going to seriously consider the opinion of a dude who reviews Cheetos and has a "How to make Cheez-it Vodka (Vomit Alert!)" video. He seems exactly like the type of "what about the men!!" idiot that would go into the movie knowing he'd hate it, and finding every possible reason to confirm his own opinion.
Wow, dude. At least we know where you stand. I mean, you got all that from the opinion of a dude who reviews skittles on YouTube?
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Yeah, you can tell that dude in the video review breathes Axe Body Spray and sweats Mountain Dew but if you head over to the Ghostbusters subreddit you'll see hundreds of posts treating his review like the final nail in the movie's coffin.
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How am I not surprised that two people defending the film are the first to claim the reviewer is blowing smoke? Now I've criticized the film no doubt so I'm guilty for going to a negative review but the stuff he's saying seems plausible. Also note that he likes most of the actresses and Feig and admits to not being a huge fanboy of the originals so there doesn't seem to be a large bias.
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How am I not surprised that two people defending the film are the first to claim the reviewer is blowing smoke? Now I've criticized the film no doubt so I'm guilty for going to a negative review but the stuff he's saying seems plausible. Also note that he likes most of the actresses and Feig and admits to not being a huge fanboy of the originals so there doesn't seem to be a large bias.
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Sony put those toys out waaaay too early.
By the same token it doesn't appeal to collectors either cause most fans don't seem to want to support the new movie either. I've gone to a couple different places and see the new figures sitting there and a lack of the older figures. It seems that Sony couldn't do anything right merchandising this movie as even the video game coming out looks like shit and had to have a free digital copy of the new movie added to it.
Which has been this movies problem for awhile. It has no clue who its going to appeal to.
I never got that impression from anyone criticizing him. Is it convenient that he's yet another straight white dude (like me!) who is hesitant to believe the movie is any good? Sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that his argument was poor. As someone mentioned above, if he had made his point and ended it, that'd have been enough. But instead he spent 6 minutes acting like he was owed a "better" movie or something.
Yeah, I'm not going to seriously consider the opinion of a dude who reviews Cheetos and has a "How to make Cheez-it Vodka (Vomit Alert!)" video. He seems exactly like the type of "what about the men!!" idiot that would go into the movie knowing he'd hate it, and finding every possible reason to confirm his own opinion.
Yeah, you can tell that dude in the video review breathes Axe Body Spray and sweats Mountain Dew but if you head over to the Ghostbusters subreddit you'll see hundreds of posts treating his review like the final nail in the movie's coffin.
The reviews coming weeks in advance for Captain America was atypical. It was almost certainly a dig at BvS on Marvel's part. There's really no reason to publicize good reviews a month before people will be buying tickets unless you wanna rub your confidence in your competitor's face.
How am I not surprised that two people defending the film are the first to claim the reviewer is blowing smoke? Now I've criticized the film no doubt so I'm guilty for going to a negative review but the stuff he's saying seems plausible. Also note that he likes most of the actresses and Feig and admits to not being a huge fanboy of the originals so there doesn't seem to be a large bias.
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I'm not specifically defending the film. I'm reserving judgment until I see it for myself. I'm just saying I don't take much stock in a reviewer whose YouTube channel is filled with hundreds of videos reviewing random fast food items. He has 24 movie reviews (that's fine, everyone starts somewhere), but it's hard to take him seriously with his rants about the anti-men stuff. Men are portrayed as bumbling idiots and/or assholes in damn near every film aimed at us men, too. Who cares? Why is it so offensive when this film does it? Think about that.
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If the review was positive, you'd be posting pictures of his dead girlfriend, or mother, or grandmother. See how that works?
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I said that in my response too but again the guy likes the actresses and Feig and isn't a huge fanboy. He doesn't seem like someone biased against the new film for sexist reasons or because he hates that a franchise he loves is being rebooted.
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I'm not specifically defending the film. I'm reserving judgment until I see it for myself. I'm just saying I don't take much stock in a reviewer whose YouTube channel is filled with hundreds of videos reviewing random fast food items. He has 24 movie reviews (that's fine, everyone starts somewhere), but it's hard to take him seriously with his rants about the anti-men stuff. Men are portrayed as bumbling idiots and/or assholes in damn near every film aimed at us men, too. Who cares? Why is it so offensive when this film does it? Think about that.
As far as the film portraying men as bumbling idiots, yeah it is done in other films too but there seems to be a pretty high level of hypocrisy here. Basically it sounds like the film does all it can to make every male character an idiot or to rub in the girl power message to fanboys (and specifically men). That sounds like a pretty pointedly aimed message but yet its somehow okay because it's aimed at men and not women or another minority group. How does that help anyone really? You empower one group by putting down another yet I'm supposed to take away a positive message because girl power?
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So are we collectively deciding to just ignore the obvious fact that people can just say they like the cast/director, aren't sexist, aren't big Ghostbusters fans, etc.?
I mean, I'm not for being paranoid and doubting every single example of context used by a reviewer but sometimes it's warranted. I don't buy it when this guy says he likes the actresses, and you can see the benefit of lying about it in this very thread.
I'm not even trying to wax my own car by stating I have a finely-tuned bullshit detector or anything. He can't even remember their names at the start of his video. But hey, say you're a big fan of everything about the movie but the movie itself and you wipe out all the allegations of bias people will lob at you in one fell swoop.
I mean, I'm not for being paranoid and doubting every single example of context used by a reviewer but sometimes it's warranted. I don't buy it when this guy says he likes the actresses, and you can see the benefit of lying about it in this very thread.
I'm not even trying to wax my own car by stating I have a finely-tuned bullshit detector or anything. He can't even remember their names at the start of his video. But hey, say you're a big fan of everything about the movie but the movie itself and you wipe out all the allegations of bias people will lob at you in one fell swoop.
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He got all their names off the bat besides Leslie Jones who is probably the least well known member of the cast..
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Edit: you don't even need to look closely. He's clearly reading notes or looking at his phone and reading the names off, and the way he says "Melissa McCarthy" makes it pretty clear she's the only one he really knows by name.
Not naming Jones is just weird when he obviously has the cast list in his right hand.
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I'm not going to nitpick about whether or not he remembers the names. I think that's pointless, since he's doing this review from his car immediately after seeing it (why is this a thing on YouTube? Drive home, THINK about what you want to say, then say it articulately)
Anyway, moving on, as we are wont to do...
Once official reviews start rolling in, it'll be interesting to see who is accused of "feminist bias" and who is determined to be the arbiter of truth. More importantly, what will Armond White think???
Anyway, moving on, as we are wont to do...
Once official reviews start rolling in, it'll be interesting to see who is accused of "feminist bias" and who is determined to be the arbiter of truth. More importantly, what will Armond White think???
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He said he looked up Jones' name. For all we know he looked down at that. Big deal.
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I certainly don't fault anyone from not memorizing every actors name but it certainly doesn't jibe with his unconvincing "I love these super talented ladies but think this movie sucks shit!" stance.
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Some one who believes in conspiracy theorys might ask are we even going to get honest reviews from professional critics, out of fear of being labeled sexist, or misogynist?
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Some one who believes in conspiracy theorys might ask are we even going to get honest reviews from professional critics, out of fear of being labeled sexist, or misogynist? having pictures of their dead family members made into memes and blasted all over reddit and 4chan?
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The movie's opponents are in an advantageous position because even if the movie gets rave reviews they can say the critics were Sony shills, or that the critics bowed to the pressures of Political Correctness, or that critics are generally worthless out-of-touch types. If the movie is a financial success they can blame it on the uncultured idiot masses.
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Realistically speaking I don't think this has much chance of beating Pets next weekend. Anything less than a #1 debut is gonna be seen as a resounding victory by the movie's opponents.
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Yup the good news is, this will open and die next weekend and after that no one will be talking about it anymore. On to the next thing.
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