Ghostbusters (2016) - The Trailer
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Ghostbusters wouldn't work with a bunch of hot women, any more than it would work with Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, and Tom Cruise playing the scientists. The whole point is that they're supposed to be ordinary, average looking people.
And funny.
I'm not getting the, "Funny," from anyone in this movie.
And funny.
I'm not getting the, "Funny," from anyone in this movie.
That last category could possibly be the biggest one. There's a palpable sense that it's somehow offensive for someone like Melissa McCarthy or Leslie Jones to exist and find success.
The worst part is, I think that group is also the most unaware, but it's pretty apparent to the rest of us.
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Another very good read, in my opinion.
Interesting points all around.
And honestly: I’m glad it’s a reboot. I’m glad it’s not Ghostbusters 3, with our original heroes all looking bad and unable to recapture the magic and making the “franchise” one for three. I prefer a new thing that allows the original to remain as is, unsullied by continuously disappointing sequels. I don’t want ANY new Ghostbusters, but this reboot is definitely the best case scenario.
One last note to the "Angry Video Game Nerd" and his friends: the original Ghostbusters was very important to you as a young man. Why can't you be big enough to let the new Ghostbusters be very important to a new generation of young women? Nobody's taking your Venkman away, they're just giving the other half of the population something they can look at and see a reflection of themselves. Wasn't that part of what was cool about watching Ghostbusters when you were young, that you could project yourself into this working class fantasy? Isn't it great that someone else who looks different than you do and who has a different life experience than you do can now have that same fun?
One last note to the "Angry Video Game Nerd" and his friends: the original Ghostbusters was very important to you as a young man. Why can't you be big enough to let the new Ghostbusters be very important to a new generation of young women? Nobody's taking your Venkman away, they're just giving the other half of the population something they can look at and see a reflection of themselves. Wasn't that part of what was cool about watching Ghostbusters when you were young, that you could project yourself into this working class fantasy? Isn't it great that someone else who looks different than you do and who has a different life experience than you do can now have that same fun?
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Nobody is doubting you find it unfunny. We just question your reasons. The sexism scale is actually pretty varied in regards to this movie. You have the people who openly hate woman and see them as inherently inferior, you have people who think they're not sexist because they think women can't wear backpacks, you have the people who would be fine with hot lady Ghostbusters and you have people with a subconscious aversion to physically-unattractive women who are portrayed as confident or successful.
That last category could possibly be the biggest one. There's a palpable sense that it's somehow offensive for someone like Melissa McCarthy or Leslie Jones to exist and find success.
The worst part is, I think that group is also the most unaware, but it's pretty apparent to the rest of us.
That last category could possibly be the biggest one. There's a palpable sense that it's somehow offensive for someone like Melissa McCarthy or Leslie Jones to exist and find success.
The worst part is, I think that group is also the most unaware, but it's pretty apparent to the rest of us.
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Why can't you be big enough to let the new Ghostbusters be very important to a new generation of young women?
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Why can't you be big enough to let the new Ghostbusters be very important to a new generation of young women? Nobody's taking your Venkman away, they're just giving the other half of the population something they can look at and see a reflection of themselves. Wasn't that part of what was cool about watching Ghostbusters when you were young, that you could project yourself into this working class fantasy? Isn't it great that someone else who looks different than you do and who has a different life experience than you do can now have that same fun?

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Looks like marketing didn't get that memo.
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Nobody is doubting you find it unfunny. We just question your reasons. The sexism scale is actually pretty varied in regards to this movie. You have the people who openly hate woman and see them as inherently inferior, you have people who think they're not sexist because they think women can't wear backpacks...
Many (most) women can wear heavy backpacks, no one said they couldn't. But a larger person can do so more easily without it having as much of a negative impact on mobility and speed. To deny that is laughable. I'm smaller than average, and know for a fact that someone bigger and stronger could handle that kind of a pack better than I could. Should I be offended if someone says so?
I'm a huge fan of women who kick ass and hold their own against men. Michelle Yeoh in many roles she's played, Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Black Widow in the Marvel movies, etc - I'm a big fan and supporter.
So sue me if none of the new Ghostbusters (save for the one in the Ernie Hudson role) strike me as having anywhere near that physical capability, or the capability to be funny (none of them do). If they were funny then not being believable in the physicality of the roles wouldn't bother me nearly as much - but they aren't funny, so the whole thing is poorly cast. And from the trailer it seems pretty clear that the movie was poorly written as well.
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I dunno, I can't see girls wanting that junk anyway. I don't even think they are going to want to see the movie.
Besides, the 80s toys were better!

Besides, the 80s toys were better!

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The concept that men somehow own pop culture and women can't be in the club is so fucking ridiculous I don't actually believe you are a real person.

And did your original Ghostbusters VHS/Laserdisc/DVD/Blu-ray/Digital copy explode or something when the first trailer hit for the reboot?
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I'm guessing that there's probably a pink version of the proton pack that has a girl on the packaging and will be found in the girls aisle of the toy department.
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Nobody is doubting you find it unfunny. We just question your reasons. The sexism scale is actually pretty varied in regards to this movie. You have the people who openly hate woman and see them as inherently inferior, you have people who think they're not sexist because they think women can't wear backpacks, you have the people who would be fine with hot lady Ghostbusters and you have people with a subconscious aversion to physically-unattractive women who are portrayed as confident or successful.
That last category could possibly be the biggest one. There's a palpable sense that it's somehow offensive for someone like Melissa McCarthy or Leslie Jones to exist and find success.
The worst part is, I think that group is also the most unaware, but it's pretty apparent to the rest of us.
That last category could possibly be the biggest one. There's a palpable sense that it's somehow offensive for someone like Melissa McCarthy or Leslie Jones to exist and find success.
The worst part is, I think that group is also the most unaware, but it's pretty apparent to the rest of us.
Awesome post. 100% on point!
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[QUOTE...played by hot women. Fine actors, sure. Still hot women. ][/QUOTE]
I must have missed something. In what planet have Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton ever been considered "hot"?
[QUOTEThe reality is that plenty of people (including some on this forum) have criticized this movie because of the relative unattractiveness of the main cast. And any "dream casting" they have done instead inevitably includes a bunch of hot women.][/QUOTE]
Did you ever think it was possible that maybe some of the actresses who were being thrown around were mentioned because they *gasp* have good comic timing and actually might be funny? For that since you and GURU are taking up the "RAH RAH SEXISM, GIRL POWER" stance just saying that people want certain women in because of attractiveness is pretty insulting to them.
And people who seem to think that any person saying anything about this movie have to be either sexist, anti-woman, and they can't just think the movie looks stupid because it looks stupid, and for that matter there argument always has to come back to just being sexist.
No it won't replace anybody's copy of the original movie. But do you know what else? If a movie looks like shit, it deserves to be called shit whether it's based on a classic or not. Kind of like how people seemed to have no issues bitching about the Halloween, Nightmare, or Friday remakes.
As for the new trailer, it still sucks. One part in it made me laugh, and that was the selfie stick scene. It just looks bad and since I'll be labeled as sexist otherwise here's why:
-Leslie Jones just isn't funny. Her line readings area awful and she can't seem to talk in any way OTHER THAN LIKE THIS!
-Yay instead of an Exorcist joke, were getting really cutting edge with a Jaws joke.
-The rock concert scene looks awful.
-The ghosts just look like CGI on steroids and look more like something from the Haunted Mansion then a Ghostbusters movie.
-Melissa McCarthy's pelvic thrust. Oy
-Wiig holding on to the table warning everyone to get out just comes across as bad and it would look just as stupid in the original movie.
-The joke when Wiig was getting puked on of "Oh that's so beautiful" was just lame. The slimed joke worked in the first one because of how simply it was from Ray and Egon's reaction.
And that's what this movie is mainly missing. The original had some slapstick in it, but what really made it funny and the parts people always mention are the one liners from it and how subtle they were. This just seems like any other stupid movie to come out in the last couple years that's trying to be funny.
I must have missed something. In what planet have Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton ever been considered "hot"?
[QUOTEThe reality is that plenty of people (including some on this forum) have criticized this movie because of the relative unattractiveness of the main cast. And any "dream casting" they have done instead inevitably includes a bunch of hot women.][/QUOTE]
Did you ever think it was possible that maybe some of the actresses who were being thrown around were mentioned because they *gasp* have good comic timing and actually might be funny? For that since you and GURU are taking up the "RAH RAH SEXISM, GIRL POWER" stance just saying that people want certain women in because of attractiveness is pretty insulting to them.
Nobody is doubting you find it unfunny. We just question your reasons. The sexism scale is actually pretty varied in regards to this movie. You have the people who openly hate woman and see them as inherently inferior, you have people who think they're not sexist because they think women can't wear backpacks, you have the people who would be fine with hot lady Ghostbusters and you have people with a subconscious aversion to physically-unattractive women who are portrayed as confident or successful.
And did your original Ghostbusters VHS/Laserdisc/DVD/Blu-ray/Digital copy explode or something when the first trailer hit for the reboot?
As for the new trailer, it still sucks. One part in it made me laugh, and that was the selfie stick scene. It just looks bad and since I'll be labeled as sexist otherwise here's why:
-Leslie Jones just isn't funny. Her line readings area awful and she can't seem to talk in any way OTHER THAN LIKE THIS!
-Yay instead of an Exorcist joke, were getting really cutting edge with a Jaws joke.
-The rock concert scene looks awful.
-The ghosts just look like CGI on steroids and look more like something from the Haunted Mansion then a Ghostbusters movie.
-Melissa McCarthy's pelvic thrust. Oy
-Wiig holding on to the table warning everyone to get out just comes across as bad and it would look just as stupid in the original movie.
-The joke when Wiig was getting puked on of "Oh that's so beautiful" was just lame. The slimed joke worked in the first one because of how simply it was from Ray and Egon's reaction.
And that's what this movie is mainly missing. The original had some slapstick in it, but what really made it funny and the parts people always mention are the one liners from it and how subtle they were. This just seems like any other stupid movie to come out in the last couple years that's trying to be funny.
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Are they still working on the movie? I thought they were done.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...stbusters.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...stbusters.html
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I must have missed something. In what planet have Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton ever been considered "hot"?

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Planet Earth?

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Planet Earth?
I don't find McCarthy to be the least bit funny. Nor did I find Chris Farley to be funny, either. I wouldn't have wanted him added as a new Ghostbuster while he was alive...
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Because the success and fanbase of BOTH actors would indicate you are in the thin minority. (see what i did there?)
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Trailer looked pretty bad to me, particularly that Jones line after stage diving. Ghost effects continue to be the best looking thing in the trailer.
As for the women, Weaver and Hamilton certainly aren't the traditional attractive model looking women and those movies were hardly pitched as a hot chick being a bad ass, at least as far as I can tell.
The rest of the discussion just seems to be going around in the same circles as the last thread that got closed and the pages of this one.
As for the women, Weaver and Hamilton certainly aren't the traditional attractive model looking women and those movies were hardly pitched as a hot chick being a bad ass, at least as far as I can tell.
The rest of the discussion just seems to be going around in the same circles as the last thread that got closed and the pages of this one.
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When I went to watch this new trailer on youtube, its appears that Sony doesn't have it on their youtube channel, just all of the other movie related ones. Maybe one trailer on their channel is enough to deal with the backlash in the comments.
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Actually the trailer is better than the first one. It's less w/ the crappy humor but more.. well... mediocre humor.
I do like the ghost designs and colors. Nice to see so many colors.
Seems they patterned this trailer to show off elements that remake certain bits from the first GB. Which is even more annoying cuz Feig sure isn't trying to be original here.
Otherwise... meh.
Also... bluelitespecial (and others)... some of us like to suck a dick but ya'll really go down hard on the wrong kind of dick. Taking it away from us? Put your fucking dick in a fleshlight or an asshole. Jesus. News, suckah! Women loved GB in the past too. Women loved SW. They loved comic books. They loved Pro Wrestling. They loved a lot of the same shit that guys too even when it wasn't marketed to them. It's really nothing new and you need to take that dick out of your asshole that makes you think some women are pegging you to the point where you can't have anything. Just cuz you feel scorned by women for being worthless to them doesn't make women in culture worthless.
Do I think this film will be good? No. Based on Feig's crap direction and the trailer along w/ whatever other elements.. no.
Does it bother me that they're all women? Not really. It's Feig's way of being original, I guess. Doesn't help the stereotypes that the trailers seem to show off w/ pride though. So yay, Feig? Gender swapping made worse by cliche elements. Yay.
It's obvious as a dick in an asshole that some of ya'll motherfuckers just hate it cuz it's vaginas in GB suits.
Jesus H. Fuck Me in the Asshole Christ. What kind of pussy scorned ya'll to feel like that? 7 Billion on this planet and pussy enough to make you mad? Pussy you ain't even sitting your dick in?
I do like the ghost designs and colors. Nice to see so many colors.
Seems they patterned this trailer to show off elements that remake certain bits from the first GB. Which is even more annoying cuz Feig sure isn't trying to be original here.
Otherwise... meh.
Also... bluelitespecial (and others)... some of us like to suck a dick but ya'll really go down hard on the wrong kind of dick. Taking it away from us? Put your fucking dick in a fleshlight or an asshole. Jesus. News, suckah! Women loved GB in the past too. Women loved SW. They loved comic books. They loved Pro Wrestling. They loved a lot of the same shit that guys too even when it wasn't marketed to them. It's really nothing new and you need to take that dick out of your asshole that makes you think some women are pegging you to the point where you can't have anything. Just cuz you feel scorned by women for being worthless to them doesn't make women in culture worthless.
Do I think this film will be good? No. Based on Feig's crap direction and the trailer along w/ whatever other elements.. no.
Does it bother me that they're all women? Not really. It's Feig's way of being original, I guess. Doesn't help the stereotypes that the trailers seem to show off w/ pride though. So yay, Feig? Gender swapping made worse by cliche elements. Yay.
It's obvious as a dick in an asshole that some of ya'll motherfuckers just hate it cuz it's vaginas in GB suits.
Jesus H. Fuck Me in the Asshole Christ. What kind of pussy scorned ya'll to feel like that? 7 Billion on this planet and pussy enough to make you mad? Pussy you ain't even sitting your dick in?
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I've been waiting so long for that post, Snake.
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Don't care, I am not a hideous troll and no matter what I do I am never good enough for them.
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